X570

They are all gaymen led trash with retarded design decisions (except for the Gigabyte flagship that at least has decent cooling but costs more than the CPU you're gonna put into it).

As this point I don't know
People want to talk about how AMD has the cheaper motherboards but not this generation
X570 pricing seems pretty brutal
Gigabyte for example wants $600 for it's top end X570 which is $50 above the Z390 version of the same board
Many others are also reporting more expensive motherboards do to PCIe 4.0 requirements

Looks like shit. Why can't we just have a green PCB without gamer bullshit?

Well, same will happen with Intel when they get PCIe 4. So not much anyone can do.

gaming is the only reason the self built PC market grows so of course motherboard makers are going to cater to gamers

300+Euros? its only worth for a high-end workstation
Ill be fine with a good 450 board

Should I stick with my B350 board and get a 3700x or grab a new X570 board a 3900x?

I'm going to drop the 12 core in my shitty b350m and see what happens.

no rgb i sleep

Well as long as you don't OC...

giant sexy dust trap with oven capabilities to match dachau

I play vidya 12 hours a day and have yet to figure out why the fuck would I need blinking lights in my case? The only thing I care about is silence and components staying cool. Leddit numales ruined yet another thing I enjoy.

Eyeing the ASRocks with TB3 support, but I worry they will be cockblocked like the gigabyte x399 designate, which has the TB header, but it needs a hack to actually work

If the motherboard has TB3 ports how could it actually be cockblocked?

Do we know anything about whether the M2 slots on X570 boards will be nvme-only, or whether you'll be able to stick SATA SSDs into them? Or is that up to the board designers' choice?

I think only 3 mobos (the itx one, which is fugly, and I think the aqua and creator one) have ports in the Mobo.
The taichis and other phantom gaming one, have headers, meaning it uses an AIC.
Previously, gigabyte shipped the x399 designare with the TB header, and was supposed to be compatible with their titan ridge AIC. It wasn't.
Ultimately, I will be waiting for reviews.

None, I didn't buy AMD only to buy a new motherboard every 2 years.

the one without a fan (asus)

>X570

Enjoy your hairdryer.
youtube.com/watch?v=sa5TLHC2J1A

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Kek AMD fags BTFO

As far as I'm aware Gigabyte did ship the designare with a TB3 header but they never actually supported or advertised it nor did they implement the UEFI modules for it to work so duh it was never going to work
If Asrock says that it supports TB3 then you most likely will not have the same headaches since it is properly supported

>2 views
Don't shill your shitty channel here, incel.

cringe
not funny
consider a bullet

what's the point of having a chipset fan if they are going to block it so it looks less ugly...

The chipset fan is really only an extreme circumstance thing
It may have been the only way to keep the chipset cool in a 50C hotbox while maintaining a low profile heatsink
In any other circumstance the fan may not actually be needed

>porn
The price for X570 boards will also be porn.
No fucking thanks. I stick with X370.

Shook.

It's still going to spin all the time, collect dust, and one day choke to death and then your $300 mobo will do lmfao.

I thought we got rid of fans on mobos. AMD is retarded.

IS THAT A FAN ON THE MOTHERBOARD? OH MY GOD

will die*

I'm upgrading to Ryzen from an FX so I int have an AM4 board. I'm getting the 3900X for sure, but should I get a x570 or just go for a good x470? Because so far I'm not seeing any affordable X570 boards and there's nothing special about them other than PCIe 4 which doesn't benefit much yet.

whatever causes you to consume more goy

What are you going to do, cum on it?

We don’t know if they are going spin all the time, it may only run if it’s actually needed

> plastic garbage all over the board
> looks like cancer for gamer lamers
> Which one are you going to buy?
nothing this gay, that's for fucking sure.

Seething

>putting 12v through a 5v 40mm fan
riveting tale, ol' chap

Can't you simply dismantle the plastic unscrew the fan and set up a proper heat sink?

Up to the board designers, though from what I've seen a lot of them include at least one SATA-compatible M.2 slot.

Probably. Having to spend more money to unfuck your new mobo is beyond retarded however.

There is at least one board manufacturer advertising that their fans only spin when needed, so most likely the fans will only spin up under excess temperature, meaning most likely the average user will never see it spin up.

The worst part is that they probably could've skipped the fan if they didn't insist on their retarded headsink designs.

Truthfully I get that. I'm just bitching but I really hate the way modern hardware looks. I'd almost rather just use Enterprise equpitment.

In principle yes. But everyone here demonises these fans like it's the end of the world. I thought people who build their own custom high end pcs are handy enough to do some basic DIY tampering.

only the Gigabyte Xtreme has no fan.

Yes and they managed to put good cooling into boards 10 years ago so it's not like it should be too hard.

The like rgb led garbage is a definite plus

These fans are the reason for me to get x470 instead. I hate extra effort and expenses just because some marketing nigger insists on gaymer features instead of functional design.

Oh shit, you are right, the ASRocks do have the Thunderbolt logo on their pages that's reassuring
Inb4 it is removed once general availability
Regardless
>Aquantia NICs
>PCIe 4
>TB3
>nvme out the ass
>dem Zen2 improvements
if it confirms no bad inter CCX latency, I will be cumming buckets about my next build (upgrading from a Haswell)

Give me one good reason I should get a x570 board instead of a x370.

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I have that board, fingers crossed, hopefully it'll support 16C/32T.

Fucking Asus removed 2 sata going to the prime x470 pro.

Does it overclock well? I'm thinking of getting it with a 3700x.

How about you go fuck yourself you stupid cuck sucking piece of faggot shit?

No way I'm paying 700$+ for a mobo.
I hope your parents get into a car crash.

I have a 1700x on it, does 3.825ghz @ 1.35V won't go any higher but the first gen Ryzen sucked for overclocking.

giganigga master . hopefully under 300 euros

If you're coming from FX user, it implies you hold onto your tech for a while. Don't be cheap in the now, because that can get expensive in the long run. If you have the budget, bite the bullet and get a decent X570 board.

what a fucking idiot low iq retard you are. so by your logic all the other fans in your pc will choke to death as well right ? you never clean them ? also the fan will only spin in RAID 0 config

Asus Crosshair VIII Hero X570 whenever they unveil their fucking motherboard line. I might buy their EXTREME OC edition shit if there's something above the Hero. Not looking to drop $500 on a board, but I gave myself a budget of $1100 for this Ryzen upgrade, so if need fucking be, I'll do it. This Ryzen 12c24t Chip and top tier board are the last upgrade I intend to do for a long while, so I want to buy quality shit that will last. Already bought
>EVGA RTX 2080Ti FTW3 Ultra
>G-Skill Ripjaws 2x16GB 3200MHz with 14-14-14-34 timings
>Brand new Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
>Be Quiet! Fans all around the case
It's been a long while since I've had everything falling into place like this. I usually have ancient hardware and failing fans mixed in with new shit and am always replacing something. NO MORE.

At least with standardized fans they are easily replaceable and won't kill your computer if they die.

Then don't have a window and just close off all the blinking lights? Literally a non-issue

Enjoy your buyers remorse when they bring out the 16C a few months down the line.

When they finally announce the 16 core.
14+2 direct with the best power stages and a passive heatsink make me completely accept the price.

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nah. I'll probably just stick with what I have by then

Waiting for pricing

x570 mATX asrock board in a gamersnsexus video, he doesnt talk about or show it tho.

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You know the price?

>Pro4
Stay away!

>I have a 1700x on it, does 3.825ghz @ 1.35V won't go any higher
surely you can do better

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Atleast there seems to be matx for x570, hopefully theres more. x470 didnt have a single one

did the 6/8 Zens ever need that much fucking phases anyway?

Assume more expensive than most of the x470 high end boards. The VRMs will finally start to matter.

Oddly x470 has some mitx boards

what formfactor is this even?

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I'll probably buy gigabyte's aorus master, the layout looks pretty good according to Buildzoid.
Will match with the R9 3900X.

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no because they were clock capped. My 1700X would never go beyond 3.8GHz no matter how much voltage I threw at it. It was never a problem of power delivery, it was clock stability due to the node they were built on. However, this 7nm is a different animal. The node isn't for power efficiency this time around. Especially when you're looking at REALLY Clocking a 12c or 16c chip.

unrelated, Asus is dropping a mini DTX motherboard. Apparently it has a dual m.2 adapter that goes in that laptop RAM looking slot above the PCIe.

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I'll buy anything that doesn't have RGB and Gaming branding

dunno, but this probably never would've been an issue if they used actual fucking heatsinks instead of aluminum blocks. Now every board has 60 phases so they could probably be cooled without VRM heatsinks

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$600 seems to be the consensus.
That would be around $50 over the same Z390 model, but this is a higher spec board.

Couldn't get 3.9ghz stable even with 1.4v
It'll boot 3.9~4.0ghz to the desktop, but crash when hitting it with cinebench.

That WS X570 board you posted fully supports ECC by the way. Something a lot of reviewers seem to be glossing over. Ryzen supports ECC and never really had a board that would claim official ECC support. Got one now. I'm pretty much sold on the WS-Ace X570 board to pair with my 3900X

Cool design but might as well wait for PCIe 4.0 in hopes that Intel fixes DMI. Those M.2 slots are great if you're willing to take shitty, slow PCIe lanes in return.

Do you guys really spend $600 on a motherboard? I guess I'm just going to keep poorfagging

Gigabyte Aorus Master
ASRock Taichi Ultimate
Asus Maximus Hero
MSI MEG Ace

Doubt you can go wrong with any of them, question is which one?
My Hero from 2013 is still good and Asus UI is acclaimed as the best, but I haven't tried any other brand.
I did see that Asus lied about their Z390 vrm doubling/true count on that Hero

>intel fixes DMI
huh? Forgive my stupidity but what does Intel Fixing DMI, and m.2 slots have to do with waiting for PCIe 4.0? The X570 boards have PCIe 4.0. Are you implying that current gen m.2 SSDs will result in worse PCIe performance?

When I keep it for 7 years I think it's worth buying a higher tier product

None, for I'm already on X370 Crosshair and no reason to upgrade motherboard

Of course not, people choose AMD for the cheaper CPUs why would they blow $600 on a motherboard? It barely makes sense even if you buy the $499 12C/24T.

to be early adopters of not only a new chipset, but a new PCIe standard? Yes. PCIe 4.0 and the X570 chipset required to power it isn't cheap. Silicon quality/thickness, traces, VRM's etc. Almost everything on a lot of these boards is what would have been considered "server grade" a few generations ago. For someone budget conscious, you'd do the smart thing and get a decent X470/B450 board with good VRM's and support for the new chips. Flash the latest BIOS, and get the new CPU while you wait for price drops on the boards. Just like anything new, once it starts getting mass produced, prices will plummet.

reg ECC?

Yeah, at least many X570 boards support unbuffered ECC.
There are boards said to be around $300 which should handle a 16 core just fine.

The literal exact thing could be said about getting an i9-9900k. To really lean on the 9900k, you need a board with very stout VRM's. All those boards usually have high quality everything else to boot. You COULD cheap out, but why? Not only that, but these X570 boards hitting the market are the first of their kind in the mainstream.