3.5 GHz Ice Lake faster than 4 GHz Zen 2 in single core

>3.5 GHz Ice Lake faster than 4 GHz Zen 2 in single core
>AMD:5061
>Intel:5234

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AMD once again finished and bankrupt once Intel releases 10nm on desktops.

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Except it will be mobile and server only chip.

>once Intel releases 10nm on desktops
Can't you read, idiot.

Oh no no no no
Intel was competing with stone age technology all along

Might as well use apple cpu if you care about geekbhench

>clockspeeds don't matter!

>two different geekbench versions
>AMD engineering samples
>AMD chip using slow memory and half the RAM
InTelAviv does it again

Let's pretend intel releases something decent for the desktop at the end of 2020. Say an optimistic 10% better for the same clock frequency and turbos to 5 GHz. Shit's cash and they reign supreme. Now how are they going to make any sizable profit from that?

Yields will be utter dogshit, going to 5GHz will probably require the crucifixion of like 100 fucking wafers so they'll be FORCED to price their CPUs at least twice as expensive as zen 2 chips.

Remember AMD prices are going to slowly whittle down as Zen 3 approaches next year. We'll see a 3900X for $400 soon.

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>We'll see a 3900X for $400 soon.
I'm going to nut

By the time the desktop version arrives you'll see Zen2+ with EUV.

TSMC is doing test runs with 5nm this year. This fucking year boy.

Except once 2022 arrives AMD will already be on TSMC 5nm.

Intelcels like or not geekbench now? Make up your mind

Look Apple A12 is shitting on Intels IPC BTFO
browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13312524

>server
OHOHAHAHAHA

geekbench scores are useless
why isnt intel using cinebench? not even cinebench 20 which is heavily biased towards them?

>Do benchmarks still matter?
Reporter: Last night, Intel made a big pitch, part of which is that reviewers are using artificial benchmarks, benchmarks that don’t reflect the real world. And they’re starting to try to influence the community to try and move away from that. How do you feel about that?

Su: We also believe that real-world applications are what’s important, no doubt about it. But at some point, you’ve got to compare X to Y. So we will use benchmarks, we do. You might have noticed that we switched from Cinebench R15 to R20. We did that on purpose, because we thought it was a harder test, frankly, than R15. Maybe David or Robert can comment more about it. When we look at gaming performance, we do our very best to benchmark. All of our stuff is apples to apples, and we’ll continue to do that.

Benchmarks are important, they give you a view of competitiveness. But at the end of the day, it’s the user at home. And what we believe is we’ve given the user a lot of choice, depending on where your price points are, what your performance requirements are, whether you want to build up, you know, you want to use a water cooler or an air cooler. I think we’ve given you a lot of choice in the processor capabilities.

LMAO

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JUST

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AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

AYYMDPOORFAGS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH

>once Intel releases 10nm on desktops

It will not happen. Intel will jump straight to 7nm

>once Intel releases 10nm on desktops
So by the time AMD are on 3nm? We're gonna need at least another 10 revisions of Skylake before they get that done.

The server chips are identical to the HEDT chips, just with consumer branding and pricing, so it's still possible to get HEDT Ice lake.

*benchmarks may not include all publicly availale security patches

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In 2022 and you're comparing it to 2019 products.

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That's obviously fake, they already announced 10nm skylake U for Q4 2019.

The image you posted shows the first 10nm in Q2 2021, which is obviously just not true lol.

>something decent
>dual bingbus 10c housefire now with more vulnerabilities

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It fits all the leaks we've heard about 10 nm delays for the last several years. What you just said makes no sense. Skylake is a 14 nm architecture. If 10 nm was near ready for mass production, we'd have seen xeon samples by now.

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I meant ice lake

and you're retarded if you think a 10nm product won't launch by years end


anandtech.com/show/14436/intel-10th-gen-10nm-ice-lake-cpus

>OEM
>4c/8t
>base 1.3 GHz
>28 W TDP
And you think that they can put out an 8c or better?

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That 3900X is a monster.

>once Intel releases 10nm on desktops.
Sorry to disappoint you but thats never going to happen

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Hmmm, do these intel benchmarks include all publicly available security patches?

Server parts have already been confirmed for 2020.

Wouldn't be shocked by HEDT offerings.

I suspect not.

this is only possible if intel makes a loss on every ice lake sold, their yields are horrible.
I don't think they can afford that.

holy fuck ryan shrout got overweight wtf happened?

>once Intel releases 10nm on desktops.

So in 10 years.

10nm was supposed to arrive to mass market in 2015 according to Intel official roadmap but alas here we are, 10nm nowhere in sight in fucking 2019 ROFL

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>I totally trust every other chipset on my motherboard, gfx card, sound card, ethernet/wifi etc lol
>I'm a grandmaster at decompiling all of my software and completely understanding every dataset
>Other devices on my network such as TVs, cellphones, talking speakers etc aren't out to get me
>I can totally outwit the entire armies of experts at NSA and Mossad in my politics and muh sleep!

HOLY SHIT!
I made that POS image and someone actually saved it.

but ... but ... there is a mobile dual core 10nm part ... impossible to find or get ... but it's there! intel still wins ...

>tu quoque
(You)

see Server parts are confirmed for 2020, so there you go.

COPE HARDER

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>Not before 2020 on the desktop
>He thinks it competes with Zen2

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The 3900X makes me hard as diamonds

Proof?

>mfw Intel will compete with Zen 2 when AMD is on Zen 3/4

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>You've lived long enough to see the JUST WAIT UNTIL X meme go from Intel to AMD and then back to Intel

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Of making the image?

NONE.

Don't even have the image anymore. It was/is such a lazy POS whackjob I deleted it under a minute after posting.
Deleted the image

That's at least 18 months from now.

THANK YOU BASED AMD INTEL POZZED HOUSEFIRES ETERNALLY BTFO

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Remember when a six core cost like $400? God I love Zen.

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Server parts always come before desktop parts, so don't expect desktop Ice Lake before next year at the earliest.

Sure, but that's not 2021 or 2022 like some retards in this thread are claiming.

I fully expect some desktop 10nm parts in 2020, even if it's only HEDT.

IF it comes next year, and that's not a sure thing, it'll be end of next year. By that time AMD will have at leased released Zen 2 on 7nm EUV, if not Zen 3. Worst case scenario 7nm EUV only affords a small clock increase like Zen to Zen+, but more likely even if they don't release Zen 3 there will be some minor architectural improvements, which means Intel will essentially be on par with AMD with Ice Lake, and AMD will be moving to 5nm not long after that.

I doubt it, server parts are slated for Q1, HEDT would be Q2 or Q3.

Q4 would be my guess only if the server shit gets delayed to summer.

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>goybench

Ice Lake has 18% IPC growth over Skylake. That's kinda impressive. How will AMD recover?

by actually having desktop chips.

>video games are the only thing people use computers for

pic related its u

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I TOLD YOU BROS
YOU DIDN?T LISTEN

YOU WERE TOO COCKY

BROS...

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>when a six core cost like $400?
except aymmmd 6cores are equivalent to i3's 2c in real world usage

this.
who cares if intel cpus are botnetted and prone to exploits?
you aren't safe anyways, just enjoy the higher FPS in PUBG

and then you realize it doesn't match any of released specs(frequency range and cache size) and is most likely gimped engineering sample running with sub-optimal memory and still more than enough to be toe to toe with "i7" variant of 10nm disaster of intel mobile processor (and only 10nm processors intel has gotten out).

>71179013
Kys schizo, no (You)

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Why doesn't Intel just hire TSMC to make Ice Lake? Their problems stem from their manufacturing arm being dogshit, not necessarily their engineering arm.

It also allows them to fuck over AMD by eating up all the factory space. Nvidia does it all the time and TSMC doesn't give two shits about either company as long as they get paid.

At this point its obvious that they made a silent exit in the desktop space and are consolidating all their efforts in mobile and servers.

>once Intel releases 10nm
Haven't they all but given up on shipping that? Last I heard they basically said "whatever, we're trying for 7nm directly now"

>dude lmao dedocahedron

Because it would cost more, and desu, their 7nm probably isn't as good as intel's 10nm.

Makes more sense to just wait for a mature 10nm process.

TSMC 7nm has the advantage of actually fucking working.

Pretty sure intel's 10nm does as well, just not at a volume that can support consumer chips except at the very low end.

We'll see 10nm mobile chips and server chips within a year.

>We'll see 10nm mobile chips and server chips within a year.
Hasn't this been the line every year, for the past few years?

The difference is we actually have SKUs and ES's.

anandtech.com/show/14436/intel-10th-gen-10nm-ice-lake-cpus

But that would be admitting defeat.

Real diversity hires have fabs

HOLEY FUCK
AYMMD completely and utterly BTFO

this is ur destiny on desktop too drones ;^)

S O O N
O
O
N

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and then you realize Ryzen 7 3700U is Zen+ processor and not Zen2

That's quite a lot.

Considering that graph is graphics performance, they're specifically comparing APUs, not really a CPU comparison.

The real news from that article is the 18% IPC improvement, which if it scales up with the desktop and server parts, is a fairly nice bump to see and will be more than competitive with Zen2 and likely Zen2+.

NOOOO

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>just wait

bretty gud
Is that 25W tdp real, or Intel's marketing watts?

yeah, but unlike intel, amd goes for desktop and servers first, laptops second.

Why can't Intel stop being such a shitty inferior pozzed housefire

Cmon man. You can do better than that

But Ice Lake doesn't actually run at 25W, so this is misleading at best. Intel's mobile parts run at 15W which is part of why their laptops have longer battery life than AMD ones. This slide serves only to confuse people into thinking Intel has better battery life and GPU power, when in fact they only have one.

DDR4 2666 versus DDR4 3733 makes up that difference easily

Zen+, not Zen 2.

How many cores will they fit in a single socket system? how will 10nm yields impact prices? Plus, the fastest Ice Lake is clocking 700MHz lower than its predecessor.

> 10nm Intel barely managing to beat 12nm + Vega APU
> next year 7nm + Navi APUs will be out
heh, nothing personnel, kiddo.

What is this face trying to convey?

user,i am not trying to defeat the geniuses who built Stuxnet,i'm trying to stop Ionut and Yusuf.

Fear and insecurity.

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I've always hated this dumb fucker. Good riddance, let him drown in an incompetent company.

How crazy is it that all the OEMs are using AMD?

Seriously, Intel is actually going to become AMD of the 2000's. Intel stock is heading to single digits...