Serious question...

Serious question, how do we now that Microsoft isn't spying on everything we do on our computer when we're connected to the internet? This includes mouse movements and key-presses.

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by creating a vm with the windows of your choice and checking all the shit its sending without your consent.

You could route all the packets being sent to and from your Windows machine through a linux proxy for analysis.

Was this implying that they do or don't do this?

Protip: they're doing exactly this.

But how do you actually know?

They sell to big organizations and goverments. If they were, and were found out, the lawsuits and loss of trust/reputation would destroy them. That's the most likely reason they wouldn't do such a thing, but it doesn't cover home users as much. Just stop using it if you're that worried.

Don't worry, its not like Microsoft can exploit a hole in a cpu's hyper threading architecture to gleen data from you.
that would be sillyness

I work for Microsoft, and I review crash reports to help make Windows more stable. I've come across private Bitcoin keys in crash reports before. If I was a dishonest person I could have cleaned out several Bitcoin wallets by now. You guys are lucky I'm white and not a poojeet.

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because they aren't. you guys are just paranoid and need to get a life. Microsoft values the privacy of its users and conducts business honestly. I've personally analyzed the packets that go through my router (not manufactured by microsoft) and there is literally nothing unusual from them. Who you should be worried about is Google and Facebook.

>sending crash reports
whomever sent it earned it.

>I work for Microsoft
>I'm white and not a poojeet.
Now I know you're larping.

Crash reports are sent automatically on Windows 10.

This is unironically a good thing, anyone that actually gives a shit can easily fix it.

>how do we [know] that Microsoft isn't spying on everything we do on our computer
Well, I know they aren't because I don't run any software from them and don't use any hardware from them.

just throwing ideas, i use debian.

Wouldn't that eat up too much fucking data?

Also this. While they can afford to data-mine home users, being too noisy on their enterprise version would do them more harm than the potential benefits. They make their money selling motherfuckers services, and companies have to trust them for that.

>how do we now that Microsoft isn't spying on everything we do on our computer when we're connected to the internet?
we do know and they are.
you'd have to be a literal child to believe anything else.

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Go read the EULA. That is a start. Windows 7 old eula didnt have paragraphs about sending all your data to their servers for improving the end user experience.

They also have paragraphs about sending all unrecognized binaries to home to make sure it isnt virus.

They also have paragraphs about scanning pictures on your harddisk for illegal content and dealing with any indings appropriately. There are few sentences about webcam and microphone as well.

Seriously go read it. You dont even need tinfoil hat. Read what you clicked
>i agree
when you first logged in. If you happen to use online account (w10 has two types of account: local one and online one), then the eula you accepted is even more wild about what they do with your data.

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So I read instances of respecting privacy then you saying that they scan pictures on your HDD; which is it?

i use GNU/Linux
>selling yourself to play muh gaymes

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By installing Debian.

I only watch porn on my Windows 10 pro insider preview laptop. Enjoy my dick pic NSA!

>microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/10/UseTerms_Retail_Windows_10_English.htm
It literally says none of that you fucking retarded boomer.
CTRL+F on "microphone", "scan" and "webcam" returns jack shit.
Kill yourself.

>forced arbitration for everything except IP infringement
Based and jewpilled.

>monitoring and logging the activity of billions of installations 24/7
think about it. just think about it.

>Something company of this size could do

Oh, they are!

schizo.

you are also genuinely retarded.

but what's the endgame? There's literally no reason to do this unless there's a profit in it for them.

If your on the internet I don't see why you would care about Microsoft in particular.

They tell you in that big scrolly box you “agree” to. It’s right there.

>but what's the endgame
Utah.

>Some Windows apps provide an access point to, or rely on, online services, and the use of those services is sometimes governed by separate terms and privacy policies
>governed by separate terms and privacy policies
This wasnt there few years ago when i read it first. Sorry anons, now you have to go and read eula of every other app on your system, because they clevely moved the bad words from the main part. My guess would be windows defender, internet explorer or edge how they call it these days.

Also this isnt the eula when you use the online account. There are variants.

>Microsoft, the device manufacturer or installer may include additional apps, which will be subject to separate license terms and privacy policies.
Yup, different policies.
>By accepting this agreement and using the software you agree that Microsoft may collect, use, and disclose the information as described in the Microsoft Privacy Statement (aka.ms/privacy)

I am sorry dude but you didnt read the whole deal, they obfuscated it to multiple parts. Look at Microsoft Privacy Statement.

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I have nothing to hide.

Wireshark

Telemetry.
Look into your settings, shitnigger:
"Inking data"

they can do it..
but i dont think they need to log every mouse movment of any user..
its sounds fucking crazy to store all of it on VPS.. but the key logger is on default and they can build profiels on anyone..
they dont have any other reason to use it

Oh, fuck off already boomer, did you even read the privacy statement you linked?
Also, the EULA never included all the retarded shit you said in the first place.

Ofc it didnt user. And there definitely isnt that clausule about how the eula can be changed.

Mind trying again for the, this time in English?

>this time in English
it's perfectly intelligible to me

I would post the low quality bait image, but I'm range banned.

tons of malware checks if its in a vm before it does anything to defeat analysis

*Of course I didn't, user; and there definitely isn't a clause about how the EULA can be changed.

True but it's moreover the fact that people use the OS as opposed to doing an innocuous Google search every so often.

What larpers never understand is that any traffic leaving your system can be intercepted and analyzed, and thus it would be known if Windows was sending that kind of data.

They are. But so is everyone else.
Including GNU/Linux distros. The only guaranteed way to be safe is to build your own GNU/Linux distro with completely Free software including the kernel (no binary blobs) and remove the NSA code.

>not dual booting for the best of both worlds

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I'm still unsure if it's something that's being done. On here, we have people saying that it is, and you're saying that isn't; is there any citations for anything posted on here?

>I've come across private Bitcoin keys in crash reports before

And why would they appear there?

There should unironically be a website analyzing word by word the licences nobody bothers to read and giving you some kind of a breakdown and maybe even some kind of a score for normies

>inb4 I'll make the logo

I know it's tedious and difficult; I'm just saying it would be good for such a website to exist.

I know where you are coming from.... "CHINA SPY IS NOT BAD".

But China is not the WEST.

You must see it like this. When you have a football team. Inside your team it's good to know from each other and what tactics you gonna have.

But the other team should not know it. That's why spying on your own team is less bad than spying on the other team.

Got it? Now shut the FUCK up.

I never mentioned China once; stop projecting.

>intercepted and analyzed, and thus it would be known if Windows was sending that kind of data.
it has been intercepted, much of it has been analyzed, and it is known that windows is sending all kinds of telemetry every second it is running.

that is why there is an entire cottage industry of windows botnet defender apps that try to use the registry to disable it (if that is even respected, on home editions it is not)
or else they try to block the hardcoded windows domains through the hosts file (spoiler: it doesnt work)

if you go through the ltsc setup its give you the option to opt out some of the stuff, shows a slither of what theyre tracking

Microsoft can have my data. They at least compensate me with points for bing searches so I can get Amazon gift cards. Google doesn't do shit, fucking thieves.

Compensate you with Amazon Gift Cards? Can you elaborate?

You can redeem points gained from searches (and quizzes and such) for monetary rewards such as Amazon gift cards and such. They used to do GameStop gift cards and I'd use those for Nintendo or PSN cards and get GameStop points at the same time but that's probably why they stopped. It's a kind of set it up and forget about it thing.

I can't see any redemption for Amazon Gift Cards :'(

>Serious question, how do we now that Microsoft isn't spying on everything we do on our computer when we're connected to the internet? This includes mouse movements and key-presses.

They literally do this. They literally tell you they're doing this. You literally agree to let them do this.
docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services#BKMK_MoreUTC

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes

More specifically: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

>The documents identified several technology companies as participants in the PRISM program, including Microsoft in 2007, Yahoo! in 2008, Google in 2009, Facebook in 2009, Paltalk in 2009, YouTube in 2010, AOL in 2011, Skype in 2011 and Apple in 2012.[22] The speaker's notes in the briefing document reviewed by The Washington Post indicated that "98 percent of PRISM production is based on Yahoo, Google, and Microsoft".[1]

and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XKeyscore

>According to The Guardian's Glenn Greenwald, low-level NSA analysts can, via systems like XKeyscore, "listen to whatever emails they want, whatever telephone calls, browsing histories, Microsoft Word documents. And it's all done with no need to go to a court, with no need to even get supervisor approval on the part of the analyst."[8]

You don't, but unless you're doing something incredibly important why would they care.

>windows 10 is the most heavily saturated spyware ever made
>give it away free for a period of time to windows 7 users
>forced updates
>updates turn back on spyware