"news outlets" reported that google was backing down and wouldn't remove support for uBlock Origin a while ago. Turns out that's not the case, Google is hell-bent on maximizing profits now and will remove the blocking features uBlock relies on. This is a total scandal but its' the future you choose by using Google software.
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The day ublock origin stops working is the last day I use chrome
I guess I'm further invested in Edge Chromium than I thought I was.
>muh chromium
>muh forks
>the city of beta testers for the botnet
If you ever used webkit/blink based browser fucking kill yourselved.
Depends. KDE's Falkon browser is getting rather interesting. That's a Qt fork of Webkit.
Both webkit and blink have potential to be forked into something good. But don't kid yourself, as of now there are no forks. NONE. Following upstream with a tweak or two isn't a fork. Webkit was a real fork of HTML, and Blink was a real fork of Webkit. Some free software work of either of those would be great.
>edge chromium
You're going to get fucked when they merge upstream changes anyways.
Are ungoogled-chromium and Iridium affected by this?
Microsoft is going to want every bit of adoption they can get.
Between a closed-source Chrome that doesn't have adblocking, and a closed-source Chrome that is exactly the same except that it has adblocking, which would you use?
Every single Blink based browser on the planet is affected. This is the future you chose.
How will I avoid this shit without a blocker?
Seriously, why is this suddenly a thing? And do they really think that by saying "you agree" I actually agree?
Microsoft isn't going to pass up on the chance to have a leg up on chrome and deal a blow to google by allowing adblocking in their version.
Time for you gaylords to switch back to based Firefox.
>If the new API is really weak, then I don't think Firefox can survive for long. If websites can more easily get around the weak APIs of Chrome, then website owners will have a motivation to push everyone to use Chrome. And soon Chromium-based browsers will probably become the only usable browsers.
Even if Firefox doesn't follow chrome websites will simply "be incompatible to" Firefox. No one is safe from this.
Id rather use Explorer than Firecocks.
Same.
Firefox
I will stop using the internet before I stop blocking ads.
nigger who cares just setup pihole
>literally no evidence what so ever
fpbp
we really are a Firefox away from browser monopoly.
That garbage pollution is a thing because it's mandated by law in the EU and you have to ensure everyone from the fascist union gets one if you use Google Adsense or any similar solution. GeoIP databases aren't cheap in terms of cost of having one that's updated and loading that on each page request isn't cheap in terms of resources so it's simpler to show everyone that crap than filtering out those who are coming from the fascist union.
Ironically the cookie garbage is there because the site's using a google service even though the article's all about how google really is quite evil. that's another area where they are simply too big; what other solution is there? selling advertisements directly? that's not a very viable option
I currently use both firefox and chrome for different purposes as its easier to manage seperately.
What should I go for now? Maybe some firefox offshoot?
Laughs at the Chromelets
please, i can only laugh so hard
Chrome users will be like picrelated.
It's a lot worse than it was before but it's still a better choice.
not really. i'd rather use lynx than firecuck.
It's only worse due to the webextensions they took over from Chrome. So it can hardly be as bad as faggots who were always on chrome make it out to be.
They are just edgy contrarian tech illiterates.
Well, I'm not trying to convince you. I will keep using firefox.
When it breaks I'll think about switching. So far it works.
In the short term I'm sure they'll #resist and try to diverge, but in the long term, unless Google gets cucked and reverts, eventually maintaining a separate extension API and ensuring compatibility will get too troublesome for volunteers and they'll be forced to merge with upstream.
Why do people use chrome over firefox? Firefox with umatrix and ghacks user.js is perfect.
I will literally switch to curl and wget for my porn needs and Netflix on an android device before I use Firefox or Chrome without UBO.
They really need to think about how many users this will cost them as this kind of thing all at once will lead to an exodus no other Valley company has saw before.
>They really need to think about how many users this will cost them
Considering they care more about showing ads than having users who see no ads...
Quote the relevant parts, I see nothing being wrong there
u tried
A wild Chrome appears
>Google isn't evil, thank you Google for saving us from Firefox SJWs
Opera Presto dies
>It's not open sauce, good riddance
Google serves cucked vresions of Gmail and Youtube to non-chrome browsers
>Just use Chrome, problem solved, this is not like Micrososft at all
Microsoft takes Trident behind the shed and shoots it in the head
>Hooray the witch is dead
Chrome is botnet
>Just fork it
Nobody forks it
>I-i-it's open source, n-n-nothing wrong guise...
Chrome gets 80% market share
Youtube can drop support for Chrome forks (ChromedEdge, yesterday)
Google decides, with Chrome, what people can do on the client side
Firefox has to follow Chrome unless it wants to be Presto'd (sites complaining about the browser not being Chrome and pages malfunctioning)
Congratulations. This is the future you worked for. Not the one you wanted, though. Maybe you could've paid for Opera back in the day?
firefox -p --no-remote
Ungoogled Chromium will move on and likely adopt Braves adblocking engine and flavour it with their own configurations.
>quit shilling backdoors on here you kike
ad-blocker is all you need
Brave already has another method to work around this that is well established, and Ungoogled-chromium will likely adopt and reflavour Braves adblocking features.
Ungoogled Chromium and all the others will probably be affected because they aren't really forks. By that I mean that if I take your code and start adding a lot of my own code and change your code then I've made a fork. If I take your code and comment out two lines I like and that's it and I do the same with your next release, I just get your new code and comment the two lines I don't like .. then I'm not really maintaining a fork. It's more like a patch-set.
It takes a lot of resources to maintain a huge code-base like Chromium. It's possible given enough resources and man-power but two guys re-compiling with some features disabled ain't in a position to do very much. They can basically stick with the current version or accept upstream changes.
Small side-note: The same applies to Icecat, that's not really a fork of Firefox. It is literally a few bash scripts changing the default settings and graphics.
You can have a patch set restoring the api that ublock uses.
This.
Seeing I use Chrome solely in incognito mode there's nothing holding me back from jumping ship. Just export bookmarks and ublock settings and I'm somewhere else.
That they will then have to maintain.
By maintain you mean, fix the api implementation when certain parts of chrome internals change and break your implementation. That's less maintaining that fully maintaining a proper fork, manually incorporating changes from upstream.
I was being generous.
thank you for your generosity
???
You are very welcome, user.
Is there a single browser that supports following add-ons or has a feature-complete alternative for them:
1. uBlock Origin
2. uMatrix
3. Vimium
And is not Firefox or Chromium forks.
>having this little understanding of how things work
It would be nearly trivial to either restore the old API or adopt a system akin to Braves. Try harder Mozilla tranny. One day Mozilla will "standardize" the web and adopt the same bullshit too, willingly. And I will be comfy on a browser that isn't for homosexuals and retards.
>isnt a fork of the only two webkit engines with reasonable security.
user, I...
Well, if it's a fork, I'll just continue using Chromium.
My only problem with it is that you can't use anything but 24 kHz audio.
Yeah, I just use the new edge if content blocking doesn't work. I don't use chrome anyway so its not going to be a issue.
Maybe but remember these are mozilla shills so no matter they will just lie about it anyway because they are garbage. Fire cucks will follow suit shortly after citing speed and security bullshit. It works now so there no reason to do anything.
This is the best case scenario for manifest v3.
And this is the nightmare scenario. oh god. Not another palemoon tier meme just so we can fucking ad block lmao.
How easy for someone to upload their chromium extensions in MS store? Also is Brave releasing their own extension store yet?
so basically,
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>palemoon
That's actually one I had in mind when I wrote this earlier post
>They can basically stick with the current version or accept upstream changes.
Palemoon did that. Palemoon basically Firefox as of 2010-2011 with some minor changes. And that's NOT a good thing.
One really basic example in Palemoon: Firefox got into multi-threading a long time ago. Something a little bit demanding in one tab doesn't bring the entire crawler to a halt. Palemoon is STILL, in 2019, entirely single-threaded.
Forking Chromium is fine and possible, just like Palemoon was possible. But 5 years from Chromium will have new features and the fork will be 5 years behind. Unless, of course, someone who's managed to collect millions and millions in a crypto-scam decides to actually spend some resources on further development of a fork.
I don't know about global websites but a lot of news websites in my country started selling subscriptions and access to their site and so on. I don't realistically see this happening but a future where the internet is subscription based and you'd have to pay to access specific sites you want, or for a bundle of sites that share common purposes is a possibility.
>a lot worse than it was before
How is it worse? It keeps improving, especially Quantum.
Gestures extension are all broken and can't be foxed after FF team destroyed old apis.
Interesting website, man.
Your earlier post is basically my thoughts exactly. I think though if they are going to allow the ContentFilter API in v3 usable as more than just 'observe only' (as has been suggested will be the case for Chrome Enterprise users by an article) then that would hopefully mean this will just be a flag which can be toggled before compile time to adjust whether or not it is enabled (in Chromium source) and rather than removing the non-observe only functionality altogether they'll instead preserve this functionality for the enterprise users and just have it disabled in binaries of Chromium and Chrome. That would mean we wouldn't need to worry about doing a Palemoon-like fork to keep the pre-ManifestV3 blocking working and hence we wouldn't have all the concerns about the source falling so far behind as was the case with palemoon.
Sauce on the article concerning enterprise users will still have non-observe only access to the ContentFilter API in ManifestV3:
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No one cares, brainlet, you're a lost cause already.
just remember to remove the goatse block, everyone should be free to research the phenomenon
>implying Google won't stick the API in Chrome's source and remove it from Chromium
Amusing.
fpbp
wtf is this site
Explain.
>google still can't produce evidence that it is performance issue
Why do people on Jow Forums defend them?
No one on Jow Forums defends this.
How will it block it exactly?
Will it uninstall it?
>Hi, have this piece of technology!
Wow, I like this.
>Let me just force this update on you to make things worse.
Why do they always do this?
This is worthless anyway.
We're in the stone age era of adblocking. There is so much more we can do, and we're talking things that can work on all browsers and fucking axe ads forever.
First, we can block them at a network level. There are many such pratical and user-friendly solutions, from Privoxy on Windows/Linux to DNS66 on Android (the authentic DNS66, beware of fake apps). Most applications of even these tools are nothing more than simple network filtering of ad domains, preventing apps from showing on websites, and even inside Android apps: adless Spotify here I come! But it can be applied to actually modify page content similar to the average Adblock/Ublock so the browser doesn't even have to load the page to filter its ads.
Second, we can visually filter them. I'm talking ads that actually show on the page, but puting white rectangles over them. You think it's worse? Yeah, for advertisers, they go dark and have no idea how much their adds are seen. We can set up website-specific rules for this as much as we can have dynamic image recognition to identify them and block them. This can be done on browser level by having it draw squares, by modifying the page to overlay white rectangles in the content, and then you sandbox the whole browser so they can't gather anything, or just plain virtualize everything and apply rectangles on a superior level. Oh yeah, virtualization, this thing they can't do ANYTHING against.
Third, we can steal their content and share it as one giant P2P network, so a handful guys load the page, get the content, and make it available to everyone else, without any ads let alone any connection established with the website.
And we're barely scratching the possibilities. This is your computer, you own it, you have power over it to do anything you please, see the data you want and discard the useless shit. They cannot stop adblocking, and we've barely started rising up in this war, there's nothing to worry about.
I mean, in this specific case the reason is fairly clear. (as opposed to Firefox getting shittier for no apparent reason, other than maybe updates mean it stays relevant in the headlines)
For starters. once they have a large consistent user-base who believe their browser is the best and won't switch, or use it by default, they can slowly inject more features that help track the users.
Besides, it's obvious why a browser made by a company who made fortune on ads would be used to protect online ads and go against blockers, they just had to wait to the right timing to pull the plugs so they don't lose all of their users.
The DNS server I use blocks ads. Securedns.
It'll disable the API Adblockers use to funcion.
>I'm talking ads that actually show on the page, but puting white rectangles over them
>dynamic image recognition
This is actively much worse than just leaving the ads be though. You're still taking the performance penalties, trackers and site layout fuckery up the ass like usual, except you also splurge lots of resources on trying to identify the ads through relatively expensive algorithms, and all you get is massive ungainly blank spaces instead of a phone advert or whatever the fuck.
Forgot to mention that you still give the advertisement machine full shekels. The system doesn't care if you physically lay your eyes on the ad or not, as long as your browser loads everything and shoves it into the layout, it's a win.
not gonna lie
i dont use KDE software because i am not the biggest fan of Qt
but from what i have heard about their developments in making an entire software suite to go along with their DE (Photoshop clone, phone companion app, lightweight OS for laptops - and now this browser)
i am starting to believe KDE is fucking BASED-DE
might actually give their desktop enviro a try. what distro should i use it in, or should i try KDE neon since i am a GNOMEfag with a small laptop?
i used to like gnome but it breaks a little more with every update, and ive been left sour... :(
What if I just dont update chrome
>Chrome
Firefox bros unite
Get ready to be raped in the ass by exploits.
you can just get it on your current install
Sometimes I think Google doesn't understand how capitalism works.
>he uses chrome
Because stupid management with bad economic decision making.
>Google serves cucked vresions Youtube to non-chrome browsers
top kek. as long as youtube-dl keeps working, couldn't give a fuck. not that it would ever happen in your scenario.
nice memes on your page, user. 6/10, would chuckle again
> gay sex with hats on
lmao.
I'd argue this isn't much worse than going through a thousand regex to filter shit on the page.
And yes, you "still give the advertisement machine full shekels", but the system DOES CARE if you physically lay your eyes on the ad or not. Some already know they can't detect adblocking, it lowered the confidence in page rank, and lowered the rates to incorporate part of the loss caused by adblocking. Look at how fucking Google of all companies aims to ban adblocking.
They don't like it no matter the form it takes. Sure now they won't care nor detect it, but if everyone comes to visually block ads, well it'll be a funny day.
That's a good thing. Firefox's marketshare might grow because of this.
Firefox is far from based retard.
>jewggle starts to get shaky hands due to chrome ad blockers making ad revenue going down (they even categorize it as a number one priority now)
>nu-mozilla does whatever jewggle tell them to do, like the little ugly tranny bitches they are
Version 52 ESR wins yet again!
I've even lost count on how many times this has happened.
You can get KDE for pretty much any distro but be aware that it will most likely be an outdated version.
KDE Neon and Arch are basically the only distros that have up to date KDE.
There are already massive problems with some sites when using firefox, especially with enterprise services in non IT businesses.
We are back in the IE6 days except this time the web has become so bloated not even a megacorp like Microsoft can make a competing browser.
Come to think of it IE6's main crime was being shitty and stagnating everything, and did not try spy on you like Google does. I'd rather deal with that again than deal with what we are in now.
We're fucked.
I hate firefox so goddamned much, and they keep getting worse, but goddamned if PC browsers aren't in an active race to the bottom.