With all the advances in AI in other fields, why is video game AI still absolute trash?
With all the advances in AI in other fields, why is video game AI still absolute trash?
William King
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Nathaniel Myers
Your computer sucks, and games aren't fun if you can't beat the ai
Adam Perry
cause gamedevs are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to programmers, all the brilliant ones work on level stuff
Kevin Garcia
Because consoles suck dick on the processor side and no one makes PC centric games anymore.
Jackson Cruz
because it gives retards like you the illusion of intelligence and helps sell games
Easton Smith
Most vidya ai is good enough for what it needs to do. As long as it doesn't react the same way every time that's good enough. No amount of perfect path finding will save an AI from getting stuck on a clip of map that the retarded level designer forgot to flatten out. In short, AI is not the weakest link.
Camden Campbell
Just cause 4 just got an AI update. Its still a clusterfucj on the ground however I like the air battles
Adrian Lopez
Because video games are literally just digital toys for children.
Why would you develop a high end AI just to impress some pre-teen and teen kids when CoD and Fortnite does it without any hassle?
Aaron Baker
what is resident evil 2
Chase Reed
>what is difficulty level choice?
Jason Brooks
Video game AI is actually supposed to mimic decision making.
Other things called "AI" are just automated statistics, or mathematical models generated by automated statistics.
Nicholas Martinez
AI is the thing that makes the google botnet know what stairs and street lights are.
Vidya "AI" is just a bunch of code saying
while (this.Dead == false) {
if(canStab(Player)) Stab(Player);
else {
DoPathFindingTo(Player);
Move(Path);
}
}
There haven't been major vidya AI breakthroughs in a while, most of the time developers use random numbers to make it look like the AI fucks up every now and then and make it believable.
Oliver Russell
This guy is right. The player is so overpowered relative to enemies in every game that gaming is totally retarded, and if that weren't the case, almost no one would play them. Gayming.
Nicholas Gomez
Because we're in 2019 and single player game modes are dead
Andrew Thomas
This
Video game AI isn't supposed to be smart, it's supposed to be convincing, similar but not the same, it's not worth the time and effort putting actual good AI in video games
Strategy games could benefit from some strong AI but they're kind of niche anyway and people will buy them even with shit AI so why bother
Jose Foster
That's ML specifically. Automated planning can be static and behavior trees are kind of related to it. Some games like FFXV straight up have automated planners to orchestrate their actors. Technically it's sophisticated, doesn't mean it's any good at its job of creating convincing simulations of life.
Believable AI is an art problem right now, not a technical one. And it's going to stay that way until we can emulate the entire human physiology
Nathan Fisher
>Muh AI is too hard to make for a single video game
Why can't brainlet developers use NN to do the work for them?
Xavier White
what work can a NN do for you in developing a video game exactly?
Logan Reyes
If they can make an AI using NN to destroy pro Starcraft 2 players, they can make an AI for anything
Brayden Rivera
What this user said. You can even have hierarchical planning, where you precompute or hardcode high level policies and let a heuristic planner handle the low level actions. It's great, but I don't think it would be very fun.
Having worked on planning systems, I can say: the AI tends to cheese out any chance you give it. An optimal AI would probably wait forever in a safe corner to shoot you in the head the second you showed up or something like that
Evan Clark
>If they can make an AI using NN to destroy pro Starcraft 2 players, they can make an AI for anything
That's completely wrong on every level
Elijah Cooper
>omg, this is literally like dark souls, i want a refund
Noah Thomas
>brilliant ones work on level stuff
Agree, would work on a level
Landon Turner
youtube.com
It's somewhat niche but machine learning is being used for some video game related experiments.
Xavier Lewis
A way of limiting an AI to the point you stupid human brain can defeat them
Noah Morris
I usually played video games on their highest difficulty.
Cooper Lopez
Because it isn't a priority. Develop good "AI" for a game would take years. Plus it's a pain in the ass to figure out why good AI is making some decision that the player's find annoying.
Zachary Wilson
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Isaiah Roberts
Because the level designer and AI dev need to work hand in hand like they did for FEAR.
Hudson Kelly
heavily scripted encounters are not AI
Nolan Butler
Because AI is still made wholly by programmers, thus it's limited by what the programmer can conceive of. Emergent behavior can't be counted upon to do this, because it involves far more complexity than any alien grunt with a laser gun needs to have. Only now we're beginning to make AI which can judge and improve itself, and there's a loooooong way to go before they can pass a behavioral Turing test.
Christian Sanchez
Why develop good AI?
Why develop AI at all when the better the AI, the less likely the player will win, and the less likely the player has of winning, the less likely they will get that dopamine reward which makes them like your product and become willing to buy the next 10+ years of sequels and reboots? There is no reason to develop better AI from a business pov. Most gamer tards don't want a challenge, they want to hit the buttons on the controller until the screen gives them a conceptional cookie.
Logan Nguyen
>tfw Brendan is being unJUSTed
Cooper Russell
FUCK!!
Sebastian Lee
FUCC