Why do people insist that you can't get work done in Arch? You install it once and just update after...

arch is the lowest maintenance distro, and therefor the best

>unstable
>crash
Brainlet. Stable means packages not changing, not getting new features, only getting security fixes. Unstable just means multiple packages coming in sooner than later. Has nothing to do with crashing.

>brainlet
Who is the fucking retard for using binaries that have been compiled with bad security practices?

No, you do this: install AntiX

Why antix over Debian?

I've ran Arch for 3 years on my work machine. Never had any significant problem with it. Ran into a kernel bug and had to switch to linux-lts once.

have fun googling apt repos

1 solid year, no problems have occurred that weren't my own fuck up.
I think you're just LARPing with "muh experience"

>underrated

It's been 2 years, I'm still waiting.

good point op, ill inform the collective to halt

use void linux

It's ok but those autists removed qt4 from their repos.

Why do you need qt4

>you know how to configure keyboard mapping using the config file (the Arch Linux way).
I know it's too hard for you to edit 1 word in a file.
>You can generate a PSK with wpa_supplicant using only CLI? I'm sure that will be handy some day.
What is netctl and wifi-menu?
>What's that? You want to compile something? Have fun on your library hunt in AUR while I run apt-get build-dep.
Well have fun with searching for apt repo and installing build deps to run make install. Also AUR helpers exist.

I'm convinced they either have not tried it for years and never experienced the protection of the testing repository or they stupidly enabled the testing repository.
This.

It's been EOL for half a decade and it was just moved to the AUR.

If you use out-of-date software and claim you've never had a bug that was fixed by a later version you're lying. Having more up-to-date versions just means I can upgrade to a newish archived version if something breaks (which rarely happens because of the experimental repository) rather than rolling back or compiling from scratch manually.

>muh qt4
Lol wut are you for real?

What is long-term support?

What is backporting?

They just use their riced Arch PCs to post screenshots here. It's the kind of user that values form over fuction.

Gentoo I can understand because it's a lightning fast distro. But Arch has no payoff for being such a pain in the ass.

They are just a step up from iToddlers, really.

The problem I have with Arch is that it's not bad in itself, but that it has no clear vision.
What is its goal? Minimalism? Stability? Flexibility? Clearly not, as there are other distributions that do these much better.
There is also that infamous mail by an Arch developer that says that Arch strives to be simple from a "developer perspective", which is a fancy way to say "lmao we are just piling shit up and calling it a system".
I did use Arch for around 9 months. It's ok, despite these flaws, but after switching to Gentoo, I never looked back.

user, I...

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> pulls out 10 year old Stallman approved Thinkpad with freeware BIOS.
> boots up Arch Linux, loads minimal GUI
> accidentally starts nano to edit Python script, vomits from rage
> finally gets vim started to start "working"

Come on user, do you really think that just the loudest people who post here are the only ones who use Arch? That no one in the professional world has need for a rolling release distro? You're smarter than that.

That makes zero sense.

That's one of the reasons why I don't use Arch as my primary os anymore. Switched to Gentoo about a year ago. I'm still running Arch on a few devices cause I don't want to deal with long compilation times on slower devices. I should really just set up a build server already and switch everything to Gentoo.

You still need to wait for fixes to get backported.

Pretty much, OP.
I'm using Arch because I'm very lazy.
I've had the same install for 6 years now across two different machines.
The only issues I've had, I caused, and consequently knew exactly how to fix.

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You're right that rolling release isn't mutually exclusive with stability. Arch doesn't deliver that. There are better rolling release distros that run faster and don't provide binaries with security holes like garbo Arch.

Arch has great user support. If there's another rolling release distro that's gaining a large community please let me know.

>rolling release distros can't be stable
You're the average Arch user: a retard who has convinced themselves that Arch is the best while being ignorant about other choices. Ego trumps reality.

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Lmao you think hacked community solutions are acceptable. I like how you keep blatantly disregarding how Arch binaries perform terrible security practices.

Either way, there are better rolling release distributions. There's plenty of options, but Clear Linux isn't managed by incompetent devs and has dnf as a fallback package manager.

Nice blatant confirmation bias. That one guy didn't know about it so all Arch users are ignorant just like you thought.

The community has been extremely, extremely helpful for me. I'm not blatantly ignoring anything, I'm just going off my own experience and I've even asked you for alternatives.

>it's just one guy I swear
Then why do Arch community memes go completely against the ethos of the actual developers? pic related.

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>terrible security practices
please do tell

Why are you so invested in a poorly designed distro?

Exhibit 2

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>set up arch
>install X server and DE
>X can't launch
>google issue
>Arch developers are apparently too stupid to properly set the dependencies of X, you have to install some required obscure packages for it to actually work

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You base your conceptions on memes?

Most Arch users do. Pic related is a typical example.

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Nice way to prove you have absolutely no preconceived bias.

>being this invested in a poorly engineered distro

Nice way to not disprove any arguments in those pictures.

I wrote two sentences

I was looking for alternatives and reasons to switch in this thread but it looks like people just want to stomp around and show how superior they are.

They're just lying, it's the same thing with racism and discrimination. Using a good distro isn't enough for them they want the BEST distro so they blame others being bad.
My personal experience with Arch. I have been using arch on my desktop for 2 years and bought a new laptop like 3 months ago. And I am using them for my programming 'work'. Also the desktop has a nvidia gpu and I am using CUDA a lot while laptop is amd and they just werk. I haven't came across any problem related to pacman or xorg. It's also minimal enough for actual work and not too much autistic like gentoo, you don't waste your time, you just install base and base-devel package groups and good to go.

You sound like an emotional redditor.

Clear Linux, Solus, Gentoo, Void, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed.

lol the smugness of this fucktard
lists a bunch of basic babby Linux commands and thinks himself an expert

>you must use fdisk
No fucktard, you can use gparted just fine, which is what I did when setting up my ubuntu dual boot by making the partitions beforehand. You don't have to trust an installer blindly. No distro forces you into that. You can install and compile Ubuntu from the command line if that's your thing.

as a backend engineer I user Arch and derivatives on and off for years on my work as well home computers, never had any major problems, same with Ubuntu and derivatives, thou I like Arch more cause it gives me more control

Meant as a reply to the pic in

In a crowd of 300 devs at a conference, a handful used arch - it just feels good.

Fuck you, I just had to repair my arch system using the live cd and chrooting into my partition. All the while I had to do a technical test for a real world job. All this because I ran pacman and couldn't complete complete the distro because my /root was full.
Good luck using that piece of shit in your daily job. I don't think any company would like you taking half a day to repair your whole system just because you fucked everything up while trying to install a package.
If you think I'm spouting shit, just look at the kubernetes-bin package on AUR. The bloody thing is broken because no man page and you have to edit the install file yourself.
However, I'll admit that the wiki is good but that's basically it's only redeeming feature.

>all these 1 year, 2 years posts, kek
i've been using it on my desktop and laptop since 2012, and even on my vps since 2013
just werks, never had so few issues with an os

Arch ((USER)) Repository
No one has to serve you for free you dipshit, did you even make a contribution to anything related arch or even free software? Why don't YOU fix your own shit fucking parasite?

>imagine arch living rent free in your head

the virgin complainer versus the chad maintainer

Typical arch retard mentality. Don't contribute anything if it's not working you mongrel. I want to use Linux to program in a sane environment and also because I adhere to their ideology, not because I want to learn how to mount a partition or make my own version of a package.
But retards like you can't comprehend because you live in a fucking bubble where you spend all your time editing conf file over stuff you've copy pasted from the Internet. You don't know shit beside how to make your shitty distro not crash every once in a blue moon.

>Don't contribute anything if it's not working
clearly you don't understand how this whole free software thing works

Why do you cherry pick what I say? Do you do the same when "contributing" to free software ? Like "oh this is not working but it doesn't matter I'm contributing" ? No wonder your lovely arch is so broken if every one has the same mentality as you

the fuck are you talking about?

Why so emotional? the guy just expressed frustration with a real world example regarding OP

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>I ran pacman and couldn't complete complete the distro because my /root was full
>be absolute retard
>blames the distro

Name ONE thing YOU have contributed to making Arch better. I bet nothing. The typical smug Archbaby just copy pastes command from the wiki and comes here or on Reddit (their main page) to act smug about a distro they know nothing about.

not the first person
i maintain 12 AUR packages

You clearly don't know what community/free software/contribution are. I am making a technology for free (like free beer) and I let you freely copy, modify, redistribute it as you wish. (like in freedom)
Of course you can provide a solution for your issue, but just reporting is enough.
You don't have to contribute to that specific project but please be aware of I don't earn anything for doing this.
You could atleast help another project.
Imagine helping others like that and people come by and tell you this is bad this is that without even making a slight contribution to community.

You can only appreciate how easy everything is on arch to setup until you installed and used gentoo.
Gentoo changes a man, it will make you see that arch is actually a distro "that just werks".

wait, is that what it is?
i went from gentoo to arch...

Well good for you then. From what I've seen here on Jow Forums you are the exception.

there's plenty of dickheads surrounding every distro

first person,
I think I am contributing enough to say 'I am contributing'
I help others in the forum also in the chatroom
Participating in free software crowd translation projects (en to my native language)
I am trying to improve things on the archwiki also I help to translation of it
I report bugs/issues and solution to fix them if possible
I have my own repository for my friends to use

i'm pretty sure most of linux plus all the software to linus himself comes from people who were curious about making something so they did and had no problem with people using it freely. part of the joy might be knowing people use something you built. a lot of theses people are smart if they made something lucrative they would've known whether or not it was such and decided at their own agency to make it free open or make it proprietary.

many people benefit from youtube but never make any videos, if nobody at all made videos then it wouldnt exist of course but people seen the need to make content so it was made. it was free open community. same with linux someone said there really needs to be a bit torrent client so they made one, or an image editor so they made one you can complain about people using what they made freely without contributing that but obviously the original creator or creators had no qualms about this outcome or they wouldnt have done it.

I've been using Arch as my daily driver at my job for the last 5 years

this. I don't even use it for work, but I use it to run the VM I use for work, and even then it's been unreliable and I've lost hours of work so far from things breaking and not being able to even run virtualbox

>I don't use it for work
>I use it to run the VM I use for work
Sounds to me like you ARE using it for work

this is why I love reddit!!!

reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/ah0zoq/my_arch_linux_install_is_10_years_old/

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I bet it went a bit like this

>update kernel
>update kernel headers
>update virtualbox
>try to run virtualbox
>it doesn't work

you're just a fucking idiot, restart your machine, load the new kernel with the actual headers that virtualbox thinks you're using