How soon after they come out will you get in a self-driving car?

Also, I bet that place is more like this.

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It can drive me. Less likely to make a deadly mistake.

I'll downgrade to a self driving car when normal cars are outlawed on the streets and not a moment sooner

What did google mean by this?

If an animal jumps out on the road in front of you you should not brake for it.
The donkey was well off the road and then clearly jumped into the path of the car as it approached. If you're wondering how a self-driving car would react, probably the same and it's not wrong. There is responsibility for pedestrians not to step out in front of cars that have no time to react to them. Drivers can't read your mind, and neither will self-driving cars be able to.

I understand.

Kill all Donkeys.

It still fucks up with my mind

What will brazilians have sex with then?

it's fake news
The donkey was taking a dust bath

then you realise that the map for that area wasnt updated recently, and part of the road had crumbled down the edge, you plummet to your death with 0 control over the outcome

game over, turn to page 1 to start again

when you drive a car you don't drive it yourself?

i really wish there were full self driving cars. driving is scary and it freaks me out :(

Can you legally modify the software of SD cars? What about the hardware to e.g. disable cellular tracking?

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gets easier with experience, although i do most of my driving at night when the roads are quieter, you can tell when cars are oncoming around corners due to headlights, and most signs are lit-up and easier to read

>self driving cars only drive based on maps

The driver.

did he died?

dios mio...

I would probably get one as soon as they make an affordable one and I decide to replace my existing vehicle.
I like going on road trips but I hate having to spend countless hours giving my undivided attention to the driving when I could be taking pictures of the scenery, shitposting, or just stargazing between destinations.
Would also be willing to commute further because I can relax more in my car and let it deal with the shitty stop and go traffic. Driving is just not that fun during daylight hours.

I would probably disengage the autopilot and take manual control for that or any complicated shit.

Self driving cars still analyze their surroundings, they dont blindly follow GPS like some people.

lol skrt skrt

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never because i live in a real city and don't need a car like the americans.

>Self driving cars still analyze their surroundings, they dont blindly follow GPS like some people.
Yes, but I'm guessing that they still base themselves on GPS and maps to a large degree to know speed limits and generally what road leads to where, etc. There seems to be some interesting courses on self-driving cars online (Udacity, Coursera, etc.) They're probably useful to at least give an overview of the subject for non professionals. Not the original user btw.

>Yes, but I'm guessing that they still base themselves on GPS and maps to a large degree to know speed limits and generally what road leads to where, etc.
Yes. But they still have other sensors to check for things like obstacles and the road existing.

>being proud of owning nothing

Yuroserfs are pathetic

so you would run the risk of the car taking an incorrect turn or detour but i think its safe to assume that they will be able to detect obstructions and temporary barricades.
its safe to assume that these cars will come with legislation that requires a licensed sober driver to be behind the wheel and ready to pay attention take over if the car fails to detect something in sketchy road or weather conditions.

think about how long computers have been around, and how every once in a while something will just bug out unexpectedly, it will never be bug free.

I got these things in a car I bought last year, thinking that they would help me when driving conditions are less than ideal, but it turns out they shut down easier than you'd imagine when there's a little condensation or the weather is bad. They also sometimes see obstacles that aren't there. From what I'm seeing there's a lot left to be perfected with these sensors.

It'll be bug free (or bug freer than a human driver) at some point, but we don't seem to be there yet, no.

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I work in Silicon Valley for one of the major German auto manufacturers on their autonomous driving team.

It's a scam. It will never happen. Regulators will not allow it. I go to work every day to work on something that will never ship.

The deeper the models get, the more impossible it is to gain insight from. You cannot "debug" an model with 15 hidden layers and understand why it misbehaved. Machine learning is one giant clusterfuck of guess and check. I used to love the magic of designing an algorithm by hand. Now you literally just painstakingly tweak hyperparams until something works. The quality of papers in the field is a joke. "We tried this model because lmao we just guessed and it worked" is pretty much how every paper reads.

I don't doubt that Elon can convince delusional local politicians to allow his cars to drive autonomously. The distortion field is real. However, more deaths like Walter Huang WILL happen (catastrophic malfunction on simple road), and once enough of the dashcam footages leak, autonomous cars will be banned. It doesn't matter if they're technically statiscally safer. If they kill innocent people in simple situations, and the public finds out, they will be banned.

Based

By the way, Walter Huang died on a clear day while driving on a dead simple strip of the 101, right near Tesla in Palo Alto. Their data collection vehicles had undoubtedly collected tons of data from that very path of road where his car accelerated into a divider because it was tracing the left lane line at a fork in the road like a retarded undergraduate science project.

More stories like this WILL surface.

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Of course there will be accidents, but there are also a bunch of crashes with human drivers every single day. The question is can self driving cars reduce the number of them and the answer, in time, is probably. You could argue that even though there will be less accidents, it will be less fair since those that do happen will be more out of the control of the drivers, but I don't know; you could just as well be killed by an idiot driver that plows into you, so it's not like normal accidents are any fairer.

The numbers actually deserve to be investigated.

Musk and Co keep saying that the autonomous cars just need to be better than actually drivers. This is not the case for any rational adult that drives responsibly.

The overwhelming majority of motor vehicle deaths are cause by two classes of people: men (boys) under 25, and people driving under the influence of drugs/alcohol. These two groups wildly inflate the overall vehicle fatality rate.

The fatality rate for 35 year old females who aren't alcholics is astonishingly low, and autonomous cars are NOWHERE CLOSE to bring to navigate at this level.

Basically, if you're over 25 and don't get a speeding ticket every other weekend, it will not make sense to hop in an autonomous vehicle any time soon

Never, while you all rub your hands together thinking it's great and you can be lazy fucking off on a commute you fail to see the technology is being developed in earnest because it means an end to unsupervised movement. Once people start to accept that it is normal it will be made mandatory and you will be subject to where the state allows you to be and when.

If I can afford one. I won't be physically able to drive forever.

They, do, like everything. It would be nice to be driven everywhere, but it's not something that I give a lot of thought or especially look forward or fear on an everyday basis. What I dread more with smart cars is that soon every fart you make while driving will be forwarded to your insurance company and a bucketful of advertisers, but that's technology for you.

to me the question is at what point can you buy one or multiple cars, and send them away to make money for you. If you get your investment in less than a couple of years I suspect a lot of people will be jumping on it.

I honestly hope that your family ends up burning to death in one of these things when the primary thing you can think of is how to use it to exploit others.

>using a self driven car
>on the age of backdoors and bugs
Yeah bro, i will use a self driven car in order for it to bug and end up killing me.
Or worse, if i displease someone powerful get killed by some backdoor.
Also, a car with self driven capabilities can potentially activate self driven without input through a backdoor, effectively making you a hostage. I certainly hope these self driven cars at the very least dont need conection to a network in order to work

>From what I'm seeing there's a lot left to be perfected with these sensors.
And I'm not saying self driving cars are ready now.

>GET IN THE CAR
>w..what?
>GET IN THE FUCKING CAR AND PAY ME FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LET IT DRIVE YOU
How fucking stupid are you? Is uber and taxis exploiting people now too?

what a dumb ass.

Who let that thing to drive a car?

No, but it was extremely painful

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I'm not getting in anything that's not Waymo.

For you.

i will never own a car that is capable of being driven by wire and you'd have to be a fucking idiot to use one

if my car crashes into a wall it is entirely my fault because the thing that is in between the steering linkage and me is a mechanical connection that is my responsibility to maintain and mine alone

replace that with a computer and a bunch of sensors and it now enters the grey realm where it could have been the computers fault, and the team who wrote its firmware, but its your car so you are liable. and considering how much telemetry and automatic control nonsense is included in cars with drive-by-wire it gives me no faith that they are of high enough quality or rigorously tested enough to trust me or my family with their life, let alone some rando that my computer car plows into because it misread the steering wheel position

uber is exploiting people's labor to circumvent taxi unions and the organizations that taxi drivers have had for over a century so that 25 year olds with a prius with no formal training or liability insurance can drive you around and so a monolithic black box corporation with no employees can hoover up the money you're paying them

if you use uber you're probably an apple user, because you care more about your image than your time, safety, or money - especially other people's

Not even if they force me. Hey, let's trust technology with our lives even though every single day it's proven that technology is buggy, problematic, and not trustworthy at all. Fucking stupid.
Also, I get carsick unless I'm driving, so fuck that. That's right, I can't even fucking be a passenger in a car.

>circumvent taxi unions and the organizations that taxi drivers have had for over a century
Good.