Do any of you retro tech collectors actually use them regularly...

i actually really wish i had a neo geo and would play it a lot, i don't know if gayming shit counts though.

I'd use my M68k Powerbook more often but I have yet to get a dock for the damn thing, which has only... a port for a dock. There's OS 7 on it, which is nice, but there's very little I can actually do with it currently. Shit's expensive desu but I like this lil guy nonetheless.

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Most of those YouTube collectors just hoard stuff under the excuse that there'll be a video about it (maybe), then it just sits on a shelf or in their basement or whatever until it's relevant again.

It's good that at least some people are bothering to save this stuff.

I keep my main PC and home server/workstation on a KVM switch with two other systems that I regularly swap out depending on what I feel like using, plus assorted laptops and PDAs and additional setups around the house.

I have around 150 systems at this point so I of course can't use all of them, but I do use them, though I'll admit I get the most fun out of the forensics, restoration and setup process.

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I got a bigass poweredge 1800 for free, got it running yesterday and found some pirated movies from 2011 and a bunch of pornos, good times. It's going to the recycle heap though. The 2.5 amp @ 12v fan is so loud on startup you have to raise your voice over it.

I only run systems like that out in the garage/workshop, I have a Sun Fire T1000 in my desk and that's bad enough. But fan noise in general doesn't really bother me much unless it's absolutely piercing.

Daily reminder that open mouth photo poses are unconscious imitations of female body language. It's not quite limp wrists, but it's up there.

Do any of you [hobbyists] actually [hobby] regularly, or is it just a novelty thing you put [in a place] and play with once in a while?

I can't imagine why anyone would want old UNIX workstations. They have suffered bitrot to the point of being useless. If you want nostalgia that still works grab a copy of Unix and run it. OpenIndiana is SysVR4 and BSD still exists.

Whats the point of collecting? I still can't buy myself happiness with all the shiny pokemon cards i still own

Human instinct in a materialistic society.

Do they actually make that face without noticing? How is that even possible? I don't own a vagina but I can see any woman would experience what true dryness is when looking at a man doing that face.

My boss linuxtechtips collects all kinds of junk in our warehouse, clear faggot from a mile away, never uses any of that shit

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Both, depends on the hardware in hand.
I like buying, fixing, selling more than hoarding though.

Why do beta cucks always have their mouths open in selfies?

I have a bunch of CRTs I use for old games. Mostly high end ones.

It's a trend.

>They have suffered bitrot to the point of being useless.
Wat. Do you even know what bitrot means?
Things with stories and history that you can't just walk into a store and buy are always interesting and fun to hunt around for. You meet a lot of people and learn things along the way, too.

>Wat. Do you even know what bitrot means?
Yup, according to the jargon file I'm 100% using the term correctly. What is your, very retarded, definition?

For example the Sun Xview/Openlook will not compile under modern C compilers and will never be 64 bit since it was dropped before Sun developed 64bit processors.

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That's software rot.

You're using the wrong term and non-humorously here.
Yes, that's hugely a part of why I even deal with old workstations, porting and maintaining software for your own entertainment.

jesus christ. How fucking retarded are you?
Just admit you had no idea what I was talking about and move about your day.
>The term software rot is almost synonymous. Software rot is the effect, bit rot the notional cause.

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Kill yourself you subhuman fucking monkey
Get a better dictionary

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sweet sweet summer child doesn't even know how to use wikipedia.
Hope your finals went well.

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>>Hope your finals went well.
>implying i'm an amerimutt
Go back to wageslaving for Mr. Goldstein, gorilla.
>>sweet sweet summer child doesn't even know how to use wikipedia.
>posts a picture that literally says "bit rot means data rot"
Retard,

You wouldn't happen to be that furry from RCD?

>implying i'm an amerimutt
That explains why you're not good at english.
My bad, I didn't meant to call you retarded.
It's hard to differentiate the actual retards from poor 3rd world ESL'ers.

>I have three of those monitors that are all broken somehow sitting in my garage. I've been meaning to throw them out for like 5 years but the city won't take them, only recycling centers or something stupid. They aren't the least bit rare or special.
I just throw my old broken CRTs into the trash bin
fite me

Bit not is physical.
Software rot is virtual.

No need to start calling names because you just discovered something and used it wrong.

Up to you. I've gotten some PVMs for free that I've fixed and sold for over 1000 USD.

another ESL'r without reading comprehension?
Or a retard who has never spoken to another human being about software development using
Jargon File definitions. I'm guessing a retard.

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>use to follow this guy on youtube for a while
>neat obscure shit
UNTIL
>builds a gaming ultra rig from 2008
and doesn't
>use DDR3
>only 2GB ram
>8800 GTS's not ultras
>uses XP, probably didn't patch it for the notoriously bad performance that xp had with quad core procs and needed a hot fix
>SP1 for vista was out by this time
>Then goes to play games and is like huh weird shit is slow lol crysis runs badly haha weird!

It's because you're a fucking moron

Thank you for proving my point.

Bit rot is physical damage to media over time.
Software rot is virtual decay of software over time.

No amount of arguing will change that fact.
Bit rot in the right context might be ascribed as software rot though.

The bit rot in the Jargon File refers to something entirely different from physical media and software rot though.
I guess you missed that.

You already posted the correct picture related about the definition yourself: Glad I could help. I hope you've learned something.
By the way, you purposefully moved the goalpost from your original discussion to shitposting, ignoring valid answers to your original post.

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>The bit rot in the Jargon File refers to something entirely different from physical media and software rot though.
Absolutely based

Perhaps the locket is back with its RIGHTFUL owner.

there was no goalpost move retards.
I was always using the jargon file definition as that is the definition software devs use.
fucking summer retards I swear.

>use DDR3
Because he used an nForce 680i chipset board for SLI, and those only support DDR2. The following generation of nForce chips would've supported DDR3 and ironically came out only months later than the 600 series ones.
>only 2GB ram
Once again this may have to do with the chipset. I don't know what the compatibility looks like beyond this, but Nvidia's resources state a list of officially compatible RAM sticks, and all but one model are 2 GB dual channel kits at most.
>8800 GTS's not ultras
His explaination sounded like an excuse, I'm guessing he just couldn't find an Ultra or didn't wanna spend much money on it at the time.

Either way it was a hodgepodge build, had nothing to do with 2008, half the hardware was from 2006 and half was from 2007. Then again this was a difficult one or two years to recreate a computer from. CPUs were just arriving at four cores with limited software compatibility, RAM was just arriving at DDR3 with this and that not being compatible with one another, Nvidia were still making their own chipsets and held a monopoly on SLI, Windows Vista just came out. Can't hold it against him.

>not using an Asus P5 series that did ddr2 and ddr3
>falling for the 680i overheating boards

>Once again this may have to do with the chipset.
680i at the time base bios was only up to 2Gb and then quickly fixed to up to 8GB I believe, I know because all my friend in highschool at the time had to go through that shit with their overheating chipsets as nvidia rushed it to market

>His explaination sounded like an excuse
I really doubt he looked given the excuses he comes up with for shit all the time about how "ehh looked on ebay didn't see it" followed by hundreds of users going "yo it's like right here"

>Windows Vista just came out. Can't hold it against him.
Came out in 2006, SP1 in 2008 Feb 4th. I was an early adopter. I was doing my first PC build on my own at the time went with Vista from basically day 1, so long as you ran it with +1GB of ram and not on some P4 shit with DDR 512MB at the time it was fine.

well you failed with that though since you confused bit rot and software rot in the jargon file definitions too

catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/B/bit-rot.html

catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/S/software-rot.html

>there was no goalpost move retards.
>valid question:
>valid answer:
>instead starts shitposting with

Absolutely based again

no you lack reading comprehension.
Both wikipedia and the jargon file say bit rot and software rot are synonyms.

There is no way in hell that scene in OP was unintentional. He knows.
If it counts, I have a vintage 486 laptop that I wanted to use for writing via latex, but something fucked up on it and attempting to fix it made it worse. Shame

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You can see the same creepy fake enthusiasm with Scientologists and Televangelists.

Their lack of self awareness is also creepy.

I don't collect but I do restorations for people and dabble in buying and selling them as a hobby.

Most recent thing I ran into was this Digital Professional 380 that some factory was throwing away.

From what I can tell, someone opened the box, took out all of the cords, peeled the stickers off for some reason, and then put it back in it's box and put it in a closet for 30 years.

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Might be, might not be. I'm not that guy with the Vectra XA though, I only own a VA. I also don't own as many computers.

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very comfy

he looks like he ate an onion that gave him mad cow disease lel

Hard to say. My desktop machine is using a CRT as a main monitor and a Model M as a keyboard and those get near-daily use. I can't honestly say I've touched any other old equipment of mine in the last 3 months other than a TRS-80 Model 100 that I have a project planned for.

Most of it isn't sitting all pretty looking either, either it's in storage or its parts are strewn about all over the basement. I've been wanting to change this for ages but I've been caught up in uni and other interests for the last 2 years.

for some reason the bowl with the crystal pepsi makes it

Like planking?

Others have already said it, but yeah, that's not bitrot, and I haven't really had any of those kinds of issues on my Unix machines. I use my HP-UX and Solaris systems for a lot of my database/web work.
Nah, if you're talking about , he has way cooler shit than I do.
Man, I've wanted a Pro for fucking ever. All I've got is a copy of the technical reference on microfiche that I'm using as a bookmark.

>Others have already said it, but yeah, that's not bitrot,
Why can't 4channel read? It's literally bit rot as defined by the jargon file. How retarded has this board become?

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>Others have already said it, but yeah, that's not bitrot, and I haven't really had any of those kinds of issues on my Unix machines. I use my HP-UX and Solaris systems for a lot of my database/web work.
of course. they are still supported. But not on workstations. No UNIX runs on workstations anymore. Oracle does not make a UNIX workstation that solaris 11 runs on. HP also killed their UNIX workstation line.

And again.
>software rot also known as bit rot.

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I have a PM G4 667 that I plan on using as a daily driver, I'm just waiting on a new video card. My plan is to rely heavily on local network based services and X forward applications I simply can't run to the G4 from my Linux box.

Nigga, the very sentence you highlighted in the first post clearly differentiates the term and disproves that statement, and even if we do accept that they are the same anyway, I still don't experience problems with garbled software or data on the systems in question. Stop sucking so hard at trolling.
Sure, but it doesn't really matter as long as package maintainers continue to build or maintain software for the versions they can run. OpenCSW still supports Solaris 10 (as does Oracle, by the way) and Connect Internet Solutions dropped support for HP-UX

If you haven't tried it before, don't expect too much. X forwarding is kind of shit depending on the application.

>cosmic rays can't flip bits
You guys can disregard that source. It's not to be taken seriously.
ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/4330967

this is comfy boys

>Nigga, the very sentence you highlighted in the first post clearly differentiates the term and disproves that statement,
your reading comprehension sucks. You completely ignored the wikipedia page. Please learn to read for understanding. The cause of software rot is from "bit rot" that's why they are rarely differentiated you can't have one without the other. But please, continue to ignore the evidence before your eyes, just like you did the wikipedia page.

Well shit. I guess there's vnc but I feel like that would defeat the purpose even more.

Oh man, next time I'm in space that might be relevant.

I still do most of my on-the-go gaming with a PSP, usually playing NES or GB shit.

I like how you're now backpedaling and trying to pretend you knew it all along after telling us it's "literally bit rot" only a couple posts before. Still none of it matters, because none of the dozens of Unix systems I own and regularly use are impacted by either bit rot nor software rot as described in the sources you've given.

>I like how you're now backpedaling and trying to pretend you knew it all along after telling us it's "literally bit rot" only a couple posts before.

I like how you forgot what "synonymous" means. I know it's a big word but at least sound it out.

Why do you think OS's still supported are retro?

Does an x61 count as vintage tech? If so then I use a vintage laptop as my main and only computer.

Sure dude Windows 8.1 is in extended support so it's retro now.

What?

Why do you think OS's that are still supported are retro?

Again, what?

Only if i can use it daily.
Such is the case with keyboards.
I dont collect stuff just for the sake of it getting dust

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Why would you discuss OS's that are not retro in a thread about retro computing?

Fuck off Clint, get the fuck out of Jow Forums

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What OS do you think I am discussing? And why does it even matter? You can run new or still supported operating systems on many pieces of retro hardware.

I collect old stuff for two reasons: to re-own everything I owned and loved as a kid, and to fulfill the fantasies I had as a kid of owning some of these things. For example, I used to buy a new PDA every year, so now I'm rebuilding my collection off eBay.

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>What OS do you think I am discussing?
what OS were you discussing?

Go to bed.

damage control. The troll can't even answer the most basic of questions.

>You can run new or still supported operating systems on many pieces of retro hardware.
that pretty much makes it not retro.

So pretty much anything x86 is non-retro officially?

anything post 90's wouldn't be "retro" no. Why would it be?

Curious metric but I guess that's how it do be sometimes.

Have you tried having sex?

what's curious about it? the PIII 1ghz (minimum requirements for Windows 10) wasn't in market until the year 2000.

This is so decadent and depressing it's not even funny. Imagine being such a shallow shell of a human being that you LITERALLY define yourself by the piles of obsolete TRASH you accumulate. Truly the bottom of the barrel.

I guess because like any other definition of "retro" it's some arbitrary meaningless shit you pull out of your ass and whine about when people aren't discussing things you personally like, usually pegged at the end of a given person's childhood.

You should use your money to go to a psychologist and fix the mental illness that makes you fulfill childish wishes in the first place.

Post-90's stuff can still be retro.

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