ATTENTION: Ryzen 3000 series CPUs with PCIe 4.0 will released on 7/7/2019; they will likely match or beat Intel's offerings in all categories. High performance Navi graphics cards will be released later in July. More Navi news at E3.
Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >i7 8700/K - Extreme solution for absolute max FPS >R7 2700/X - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard >RTX 2060 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 1440p >RTX 2060 - standard >RTX 2080 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 - standard >RTX 2080Ti - better fit for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's 144Hz with adaptive sync >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
>It's possible to make out single pixels from more than an arm's length distance
Have you never heard if supersamplinget. Hell who says that close? I have a 1440p monitor and I have a good amount of distance from it when I'm on it whenever I have the time to watch stuff or play games on my of which is truth be told not often.
Ayden Ortiz
Wtf bros, Vulkan was supposed to save us amd bros.
>radeonChill disabled vs radeonChill enabled t-thanks amd
Kevin Bennett
how misleading
Xavier Long
What game is that?
Julian Morgan
just throwin my jewz2shekels in on the 144hz debate my little brother has been playing league of legends since about 30 million active players. now there is 100 million active players and three times as many shitty players to carry getting the computer to push 144 frames and then also having the monitor has allowed him to climb much faster than any other year, he has a 58 percent win rate which doesnt sound amazing but the best players shoot for 51 will report back when he gets out of plat, hes never been anywhere near these ranks before
nigga please, this is marketing tier shit. Get 144hz because its clearly the more comfortable and pleasant experience. Not because it's the secret sauce for getting out of bronze.
Chase Reyes
There is no debate retard 144hz and above is objectively better. You can even feel the difference in smoothness in your desktop.
The only people saying otherwise are 40yo boomers on Jow Forums who still think 60hz is bleeding edge like 10 years ago.
Oliver Lewis
we don't say higher hurtz is worse just not worth the money/PQ tradeoff and having to run the games on LOW
Ethan Nguyen
I decided to grab MSI GTX 1070ti since it's on sale in my country. The problem is my monitor is only 1080p which I intent to upgrade later. I wanted to try downscaling from 1440p to 1080p. Is it worth it? youtube.com/watch?v=hTszNDyuAhg
Ryder Rogers
>I wanted to try downscaling from 1440p to 1080p. >Is it worth it? Yes? Just try it and see dur
Asher Williams
The card hasn't arrived yet. So...
Jason Clark
Yes I run 1 of my monitors @1440p from 1080p native and it's roughly uhhh 70% as good as the real thign bruh
144hz at 1080p is very reasonable. 144hz at 1440p is another matter though.
Kayden Cooper
>144hz at 1080p is very reasonable. see: >PQ tradeoff
Zachary Williams
>buy 1080p@144hz >end up just using VSR/DSR to run 1440p on it anyway because it looks vastly better >shoulda just paid $100 more for 1440p to look better still
Jeremiah Martin
Should I get a water cooler for my r5 2600? Currently using an arctic esports 34 duo.
Gabriel Sanchez
I'm so close to just throwing away my DVD burner to free space, have 2 less cables, quieter start-up, and whatever ounces less of weight. Haven't used discs in years.
>2 monitors >one at 4k, 60hz >other at 1440 or 1080 144hz
Is this reasonable for the sake of choice?
Sebastian Bennett
>>buy 1080p@144hz good >>end up just using VSR/DSR to run 1440p on it anyway because it looks vastly better or actually run the high refresh rate which feels better majority of the time, but hey you have a choice
>>shoulda just paid $100 more for 1440p to look better still you mean should have payed 200-300$ more and be locked into 1440p meme and then get shity as fuck framerates with no option to mitigate that without losing lots of visual quality.
Nolan Wood
>Give me one reason not to. well the other week i got a 10$ chink maus off amazon and the software was on a cd, not download anywhere
pretty good maus too
Landon Thompson
>The card hasn't arrived yet. So... do you not have a gpu at all right now?
Oliver Lopez
The second it's gone something will come up where you'll need it.
Am I missing something or are FullHD 144 Hz panels still >250€ ?
Alexander Ward
Looking to buy a desk mounted monitor arm for my Acer X34p. It weighs 6.76 kg without the current mounting. I'm not sure if I need pivot or swivel, but I'd rather pay 10€ extra than cheaping out and missing the feature later on. Which brands would Jow Forums recommend for bang/buck? Money isn't really an issue, but I don't want to spend any more than I have to. Also USB Hub would be appreciated.
How about you tell us what you plan on doing with the SSD? Just use it to dump your data? If you're german, take a look at Mindfactory, they're having quite the sale on SSDs in the Mindstar right now.
If you're asking that, you'll be fine with whatever 3200+
Sebastian Allen
If they get Nvidia to cut prices it'll be worth it
Daniel Young
>APU + GPU why tho
Kayden Anderson
Wait for zen 3
Ryan Perry
won't the mobo/ram prices go up by then?
Jaxon Martin
why not
Brayden Robinson
That's fake as fuck. There is no 3300. The cheapest 6c12t is 199.
Samuel Davis
because it's fucking stupid get a Ryzen 5 2600 instead
Lucas James
I have an Arctic Z1. It's pretty good because you can have your monitor really close to the wall to maximize eye distance. Z1 basic doesn't give you the same depth. The pole looks really nice but the hub is made of the cheapest plastic known to man so I didn't even install it.
Yeah... what are you trying to prove? It's fake. The real specs were announced by AMD.
Lincoln Morales
>AUO 90% DCI-P3 1080p 240hz IPS panel supposed to come out next month and they've been hitting target release dates recently I just hope monitors using it will only be $400 USD or so, any more and 4k 144hz 90% DCI-P3 would be too tempting.
Colton Nelson
planning to do an i5 cpu based mid tier gaming desktop. what gen and what decent mobo can help? also would like your suggestion for a gpu.
Robert Young
I wish mATX got more love as a form factor, finding decent mATX motherboards is not too hard, but decent mATX cases are few and far in between. If it wasn't for water cooling support being a major selling point nowadays, then compact mATX cases with space for enough hard drives and decent cable management options would be more common. I just want something that looks nice on my desk without being imposing, but still has that full-sized ATX functionality.
Ryder Anderson
I hope the new zen 2 (3800x or 3900x) and navi gpu's will be good, or perhaps even the rumored "super RTX cards. I'll be upgrading from my 3770k + r9 390 this year.
Christian Lopez
Is there an amd gpu that completes with rtx 2080 yet? Or should we be expecting one anytime soon?
Lincoln Stewart
Vega VII, it's really similar in terms of performance but it costs the same. If you want raytracing, go Nvidia. If you want to run gnu/linux, go for the Vega. Or wait for navi (probably in July, most likely budget to mid range cards only though).
Sebastian James
Decided to do some undervolting just now because I thought the temps are kind of high and why the hell not. That's when I noticed this absolutely insane VCore under load when everything is set to Auto. What the fuck, surely this can't be right, there has to be some kind of mistake? Running it on a EVGA Z370 ftw. I can get it down to ~1.26, which still seems fucking high for standard clocks...
Well that sucks. Thanks for the help, I'll still consider it!
>won't the mobo/ram prices go up by then? That's a silly presumption.
Jose Hughes
HALP! Planning to buy a Ryzen 3 at launch. Should I buy a X470 board now or wait for a x570 board when they release? Gonna pair with a 2060 or Vega 64.
Can a case be future-proof? Can't decide between the Fractal Design Focus G Mini ($45), Silverstone KL06 ($100), and Thermaltake Core X2 ($130).
Adrian Bailey
Why buy now? Wait until X570 is out and then decide which X470/570 board fits your needs best.
Not really. The only meaningful change cases had in recent years was the addition of front usb 3.0. everything else is just gaymen gimmicks. I can't hurt investing a little more in a case that has good build quality and is easy to work with though, since you can keep using it for future builds.
Ayden James
Retailers are dumping their X470/B450 boards right now for cheap and I imagine prices will rise on the 7th across all pc components.
Owen Powell
Figured x570 wouldn't have anything I need and x470 would be cheaper?
Noah Hernandez
What's the point of Ryzen 3 when it's going to cost like the current 97 99k?
If there's an x470 board that does what you need then I'd say go for it. x570 is definitely gonna be more expensive
Parker Ward
Nothing because you have adaptive sync enabled.
Christian Williams
There will be no 3300 just as the wasn't a 2300. The low end were replaced with apush-ups, as will this one. And the next apus may not be based on zen2 but on zen+, also I don't think they are coming until after this first gen wave.
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Anybody know where I can find b365 or z390 mobos that aren't expensive as fuck? In canada even the b365 are more expensive than the z370 extreme gayming edition meme boards
Is this some mobo industry faggotry going on?
Brandon Edwards
Nice autocorrect
Isaac Ward
1660 or 580?
Mason Reed
So is there a point in playing at ~80 fps on a 144hz monitor?
Austin Thomas
Please express your opinions about build for mostly 1440p gaming.
A similar case recommendations would be highly appreciated. (mate black; can be put on the ground; power button and usb ports on top)
Fine, but you might want to wait for the 3600/X, Navi, or a possible incoming price drop on the 20 series. Check benchmarks (remember they're mostly on Ultra) to see whether the 2060 will be powerful enough for your standards
Lucas Perez
looks decent 2060 won't be enuf for 1440p truly maxed out, have u looked at used 1080s?
Hey user, I'm doing a pretty similar build. After a few days of research I'm wating for 3700x, for GPU I'll be looking for deals from now until 3k launches, but will probably go with a 2070.
As for cases, on that price range I think the h500 is pretty good, there's a new revision on the way but that might be a bit longer wait
Blake Morris
>2060 won't be enuf for 1440p truly maxed out, have u looked at used 1080s? 2060 and 1080 are basically equal, shithead
>wants to not be able to run current games at their settings, already has to tune down the settings >new games come out and it can't run it at all
Jayden Smith
i play with a gtx1070 on 1440p 144hz and i don't have any issues. just turn down the settings for demanding games and enjoy the money saved when you play the ones that are easier to run
Logan Williams
>I play 1080p at 20fps just turn down some settings lmao, my voodoo 3DFX stil strong and think about the money saved
Adam Roberts
Should I get a 144hz monitor for my second monitor if I don't plan to game on it?
Aiden Sullivan
I want to build a new PC. I'm currently using a E5-2670, which is lacking in single-thread performance by today's standards.
I'd prefer 6-8 cores and ECC RAM, which is what I have now. I guess the real question here is that should I stay with Intel (and move to socket 2011-3 or 2066), or go AMD?
Alexander Ward
I wouldn't really. I'd suggest going with a higher resolution one if anything. If you're just going to be putting basic shit and text don't overspend on it, just get a nice IPS one
Jackson Parker
Intel only supports ECC on Xeons and i3s afaik so you'd be better off with AMD
Kevin Howard
>2060 and 1080 are basically equal, shithead nice cherrypicked bench faggot i take it you fell for the 2060meme LAMO
>Why gaming plus, what's a big difference? high tier vs mid tier board, better vrms and other stuff, check MSI's site and compare the features
so you're spending 400$ to buy a gimped card that only allows you to game on lower settings
Why do people do this to themselves? Just stick to 1080p or spend a tiny bit more and enjoy the games as they are meant to be played.. jeez
Why is monitor quality so random? With the amount these things cost you'd think quality control would be of the utmost importance. Seems the same across every brand too, really difficult to buy one without fearing the worst. I can't be bothered returning shit, it's never an easy process with these companies.
Can anyone recommend the most reliable brand, if there is one?
Mason Parker
>Ryzen 3 if u mean 1200,2200 or 2400 no, barely
at the bare minimum upgrade to a 1700/2600 or higher
Sebastian Butler
Even integrated graphics can do 4k, only if you're gaming, rendering, etc you need a high end gpu, even for 60fps. If you're just playing video's, chat clients, web pages, etc it's no issue at all. It will strain the gpu more than a 1080p screen though regardless. What gpu are you running?
Mason Anderson
Sorry, I meant Ryzen 2, as in the chips coming out in July. AMD's naming scheme is a bit confusing.
Mason Garcia
I was planning to pick up Navi at the same time as the second monitor.
