Now that the Mac desktop is official dead, what's the best PC alternative?

build a custom PC in the small form factor of the FNW "Tiki" model with similar specs

go on..... ill wait

I too, enjoy listening to Simon & Garfunkel while using my computer.

Is the concept of not wanting to build it yourself really THAT hard to grasp?

One time, when I was 12, I went grocery shopping with my mom and there was a table covered in pre-made pies just sitting there near the entrance of the store. I asked my mom if we could pick one up and after looking at the price, she said we could have a pie but only if we bought the ingredients and made it ourselves at home.
We spend hours making it from scratch and another 3 hours waiting for it to cool down and by the end of it all, it was the worst fucking pie either of us had ever tasted. Just god-awful. Yeah, it was significantly cheaper than the store-bought pie but it was also difficult to make and the end result was disgusting because neither of us were passionate about baking. It's not like we do this shit every day. We just wanted a pie, that's all.

Sometimes I still think about that delicious-looking store-bought pie that got away.

Some people are new age faggots...
Ambient noise is louder than any air cooled setup.
Even then, people usually listen to music while working to drown out and isolate ambient noise/distractions. Water cooling is a meme as are "silent" PCs.

thinkstations are pretty comfy

> small form factor
Nobody cares about fag lord plebbitors and their small form factor PCs. That tower isn't small form factor btw. It's fucking huge. I'll be putting that kike ripper into a mid-tower case that is likely smaller. How do I know this? simply by way of the number of dual slot pcie slots it has. My tower is smaller.

Another other questions?

Not wanting to spend 30min plugging in cables that can't go in backwards.... in 2019. Yes, some people are mentally retarded and you'll pay through the nose your whole life for it.

underrated

you buy the fucking parts and a fucking case and put them together.

Why would you want to waste money on garbage? It's literally cheaper to just buy the components and paying some PC shop guy to build it for you if you really are so fucking retarded that you can't insert things in slots. Is that so hard to grasp? Do you ask your dad to insert USB cables in the PC too?

>you are a corporation that needs bulk computers
Literally the only reason.

$999 micro hackintosh

nuc8 i5 3.8ghz boost quad
64gb ram
512gb samsung 970 pro ssd

cpu is almost as good as a 6700k, 970pro nvme is lightning fast, and who the fuck needs more than 64gb ram, and its still under a grand.

>t. Dunning-Kruger syndrome
Building PCs actually is hard, but since you're good at it it just feels stupidly easy.

I'll give you a "heh" at most.

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That's the complete opposite of dunning-kruger.

Jow Forums tends to overestimate people.

Please tell the class how hard it is to push a few things into their designated slots and screw a few screws.

The Tiki is pretty small bro

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just use a linux , broski

It's easy for anyone with an ounce of mechanical ability, which is most men who aren't massive faggots

>Please tell the class how hard it is to pluck a few strings.
>Please tell the class how hard it is to replace a few parts in your car here and there.
>Please tell the class how hard it is to cut, mix and heat edible materials.
>Please tell the class how hard it is to sew a few cloths together.
>etc etc
Just because you can simplify the process to its most basic steps doesn't mean the process actually becomes any easier.

Literally anything.

Dunning-Kruger can either mean you think you're good at something you're terrible at, or that you think you're terrible at something that's easy even though it's actually difficult.
It's the shifting of blame onto one's self for the failure to grasp skills.

Picking the parts is hard, assembling is easy as fuck.

for 6k you can literally just build an EPYC server
or go with intel and run a hackintosh

>hear Jow Forums bitching about how dead-simple it is to assemble a pc
>hear reddit say it's basically like assembling ikea furniture
>decide, "fuck it, if it's actually that easy I'll build my own computer and save some money"
>look up how to do so
>right off the bat, guide talks about necessary precautions for avoiding shocks and buildup of static electricity that can be fatal to both you and the components you're using
>also mentions how to apply thermal paste and how much to use
>installing OSs is an overly complicated process
>dive into a sea of archived threads across various forums where people are asking for help because something went wrong but nobody can tell what exactly
>people are ending up with expensive paperweights after having tried and failed to build their own setups
>
>"building pcs is so easy bro, it's like legos"

or you could build a cluster of 1760 Playstation 3s hooked together like the air force
>The Condor Cluster project began four years ago, when PlayStation consoles cost about $400 each. At the same time, comparable technology would have cost about $10,000 per unit.
phys.org/news/2010-12-air-playstation-3s-supercomputer.htmlv

The people saying it's easy are hobbyists that have been doing it since they were teenagers (or earlier). When it's a gradual, informal accumulation of knowledge over years like that, you don't tend to realize how much you actually have to be aware of.

IMAGINE BEING AT COMPUTERS

???

I'm just telling a story about a pie, man. I really wanted that fucking pie. I never really got over it.

lenovo.com/us/en/think-workstations/thinkstation-p-series-towers/ThinkStation-P920/p/33TS3TPP920

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fuck your mom

>what’s the best PC alternative?

Are... are you implying that mac was even an option?

System76 if you're a baby that needs a prebuilt.

>Takes 30 min from assembly to boot.
>2 hours for proper cable routing.
Truth. Getting shit to work is one thing, getting shit to work and look good doing it, is another.

>guide talks about necessary precautions for avoiding shocks and buildup of static electricity that can be fatal to both you and the components you're using
Static discharge can fry a component if you're very unlucky but how in the fuck could it even hurt you if the PC is not connected?

>also mentions how to apply thermal paste and how much to use
I never had to apply thermal paste myself, the heatsink always came with it.

>installing OSs is an overly complicated process
???
Literally just plug in the USB drive, what exactly did you have trouble with?

>customPCfags thinking they can match the elegance and simplicity of the Tiki design

W H E W lad

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Power supply capacitors can hold a charge for a while, though so long as you're not sticking a screwdriver into one through the fan grille the risk is pretty low.

actually based post

oof to the marketing guy who thought up and pushed 'fragbox,' and then watched as people made official graphics with that word on it

wtf I hate building computers now

Muh dick

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Well yes picking parts is part of building a pc.

I'm assuming an enterprise would want a prebuilt with support like Dell or HP.

based society is comprised of specialists poster.

but its literally that easy. its basically impossible to insert anything wrong on the computer because it won't fit or the labels won't match.

>THERMAL PASTE IS HAAAARD
>INSTALLING AN OS (let alone windows) IS HAAAAARD
>I FUCKED UP BUILDING A PC COS I CAN'T FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS IT'S YOUR FAAAULT
Lemme guess, you also tried to pirate software and games off links in youtube videos and ended up with ransomware?

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How fucking loud is your home/office? Do you live in a machine shop? Are you running your garborator 24/7?

Have you considered you might just be less intelligent than average

too bad the case looks like ipajeet shit

Are there any real alternatives to x86 desktops?
The Talos II?

about the size of a mid tower.

meanwhile real men have thicc ass dual 480mm rad liquid cooled pcs that break the laws of thermodynamics to reach sub ambient cpu temps while not making the slightest hint of noise.

Unironically ARM, you've got choices like ChromeOS and Android that have actually applications. Anything else is purely hobbyist. Or PPC, if you want to relive early 2000s Mac OS.

It's 11.7L. Their Talon system (left in pic) is a mid tower, and it's 44.7L. That's not even close to the same size.

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Not any prebuilt rart. It needs an excellent support contract and also decent hardware(Optiplex, Elitedesk) with various security features. Just being a prebuilt from a no-name ain't attracting any enterprises.

The Talos II is POWER9, not PPC. ChromeOS and Android I wouldn't even consider for desktop, but an ARM desktop that I could install a proper Linux distro in is fine.
The thing is, is there even an ARM CPU that performs on par with desktop x86 CPUs? Even compared to the mid end like the i5 or Ryzen 5?