You are using nvme, right?

for you

Nope, my PC doesn't even support it. Maybe I'll use it when I upgrade.

nvme provides no real world benefits

No, my desktop has a NVMe slot on the rear of the mainboard so I have to disassemble fucking everything to get to it, and my meme laptop requires a special cable and adapter that cost half the price of a SSD.

Of course I do

how am I supposed to use pirated w7 on an nvme drive

like me

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why? shouldnt it be a lot faster launching heavy programms?
NVMe can have >1GByte/s while with a sata ssd you can have only ~500MB/s

You'll shave off a few seconds at best.

Yes, a 512GB one for CAD.
The rest are SATA because there is no difference.

By pirating enterprise and using a KMS activator, only ultimate doesn't work with KMS.

set up a vlmcsd server in your network, activate everything

do these not get hot as fuck under load?

very soon, they were sold out until mid month on amazon.

The time I save in loading applications is offset by a vastly increased boot time when booting from NVMe

not all of them, and you need to really hammer them with writes to make them hot

Outside server, enterprise, OS and editing there is no difference at all.
Example, games:
youtube.com/watch?v=ecCA0gx_eZk

I meant I have this.

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>nvme provides no real world benefits

SATA has no benefits over NVMe either.
It's outdated tech developed for spinning disks.
No new SSD should still use SATA in 2019.

Launching heavy programs is typically like 80%+ CPU bound on a SATA SSD already, so even a 4X faster drive will result in only a marginal increase in speed.

what makes it cpu bound?

Isn't it cheaper?

>implying m.2 nvme is literally not pci express x4
>posts pic of nvme pci express x4 ssd
>buys intel crap drives
u are retarded beyond belief, consider suicide

PCIe 4 EVO PlusPlus when?

For normal shit (which is what most people use a computer for) anything other than an SSD won't provide that much of a speed bump over ide hdd.

I'm running a Phenom II x4 955 system w/32GB ram and SSD and to me it's fast as hell. Does me fine. Hell even more intense shit like video/photo work or games you'd get more of a bump via other areas v.s replacing the drive.

Sata is what 6.0 Gbps? Sata 2 is 3.0 Gbps, Sata 1 is 1.5 Gbps. Meanwhile your lan is still only 1 Gbps. Looks like your lan is your bottleneck now. Even old sata 1 (2004) is faster than 1 Gb Lan.

>Meanwhile your lan is still only 1 Gbps.
It's 2019. Anyone worth a damn has 10 Gbps at this point. Your lan speed is only your bottleneck when you do network operations. Most people aren't doing tons of network I/O to even hit that limit.

>Most people aren't doing tons of network I/O to even hit that limit.
>not downloading a lot of 4k movies
why you even live?

4x

Sata will never die. To many boards have it. Thanks to B.C you can take a modern 14TB drive and use it in an old sata 1 board. Long as the board has lba48 and the os supported GPT or similar you could use it without any issues. Which is nice. Why toss out your file server when you can just upgrade the drives and save some green.

>Isn't it cheaper?
Shouldn't be.
NVMe is far more efficient, so to get SATA levels of performance you'd only need a very small and simple NVMe controller.

You'll eventually push out a dong(le)

Because bubble gum won't get the job done

Yes, pic related.

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Sorting through a lot of bullshit dependencies and superfluous code initialization. It's usually done in a single thread too, so there's way less difference in speed between an overclocked celeron and a 9000 core memeripper than you'd expect.

Sorry, I can't hear you over how poor you are.

No, but I'm considering this if there's any benefit from standard SATA.

Most of what SSD controllers do is complex wear leveling, so implementing the SATA protocol is peanuts.

do we have what real-world examples on v-nand/3d-nand lifespan/failrates?

i want to do a new build soon but i don't want to buy a stick ssd and have it die on me after 3 years

Here's a russkie TBW test with a bunch of drives.

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SATA isn't designed for SSD's, so the SATA controller has to do a lot of extra work just to make the SSD behave like a hard drive.

Literally the same interface lol

Lost it. Thank you.

But not a little cuck card with no cooling, that's the point.

Drive controllers have been doing addressing translation since LBA was invented in the early 90s.

Lower tier nvme with 1000-1500R/W are roughly the same price as sata ssd. The 3k+ ones are often much more expensive, depending on brand (samsung being expensive as fuck, but 960 Evo 1tb were on sale last week for $200cdn/$150 merican).

You dont save enough for sata ssd to be worth it over lower tier nvme.

>no cooling
>cooling for you storage
huh?

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The fastest NVMe drives get hot as fuck, and can throttle the performance.

By installing WES7 instead

WES7 is literally a superset of enterprise/ultimate(sans purble place in the case of ultimate), and support ends in august next year. Probably takes POSReady 7 updates too until August 2021.

but you forget that usage of the m.2 is port-limited - most mobos only have 1 port, plenty of laptops have none, sata isn't going anywhre yet

and the peak NVMe speeds are irrelevant because there plenty of bottlenecks elsewhere

Can I make it slower so it doesn't get hot or should I just get a slow one? my SATA doesn't have this problem.

No, I'm using a chink mSATA drive in a USB 3.0 enclosure

GET A LOAD OF THESE DIGITS

Not as hot as ur mom gets under load

A fool and his money are soon parted

My ThinkPad only has an internal SATA bay. SATA SSDs are still faster than HDDs, so it's good enough for me.

Yes, actually.

how noticable is the difference between older ssd drives like the samsung evos and the newer nvme ones?

in normal use not really a huge deal. nvmes can write and read at the same time, sata can't do that.

I have a 509GB 960 EVO for scratch space on my main PC. Was considering getting a U.2 based SSD though. Wish their prices weren't so damned high.

i use a 500GB 970 evo plus for my chinese cartoons and softcore korean musical porn

My 850 Pro from 2016 is faster than what the shitty M2 slot on my board offers with any drive, and for an M2 drive to actually BEAT my 850 Pro in the first place, I'd have to drop a lot more than I want for an OS drive

>He thinks Nvme is a form factor

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Yeah I use nvme, pretty good ngl.

I need a new SSD. Do I just get a 1TB Evo Plus?

if you shave a few seconds off 100 times a day, you've saved almost half an hour over the course of a week

>nvme
>form factor
typical "ssd is a meme" retard

>a controller interface to be accessed by peripherals is not a form factor

today at Jow Forums

>yes lets use a meme that loads shit all 1 to 2 second faster than a regular ssd

nvme is a logical device interface not a form factor

>512GB NVMe M.2
>1TB SATA M.2
>2TB SATA 2.5"
I want to buy more, but this is far more than I need for storage.

NVME is an interface.
M.2 is a form factor.

>mfw my 850pro will outlive me.

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Yeah raid-wise.
what's the next tech now ?

feels good man

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cute girl

Often the CPU has to process data before more data can be fetched. It doesn't load EVERYTHING into RAM in one go to prevent having to do further IO because often there won't be enough RAM.

>NVMe is an interface
Oof.

>>NVMe is an interface
Yikes, I messed up bad.

Not yet. getting the PCIE4.0 nvme soon.

My 850pro is still kicking it.

I have a a shitty old 240gb Kingston ssd is it worth to get another and run it in raid 0?
Also do the drives have to identical?

1 second vidya loading time difference

WD Black SN750 1TB
Samsung 960 pro 512GB
reporting in SIR

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No. My motherboard is so old, it doesn't even have front USB3.

I only recently made the switch from SATA II to SATA III

NVME is a protocol you dumb fucks

yep, crucial p1. best ssd available. fuck the 970

NVMe is a protocol like PCIe is a protocol.
NVMe is also an interface like PCIe is an interface.

Saying NVMe is an interface is as dumb as saying that IP or TCP is an interface.

Except it isn't like IP or TCP.

By not being a fucking retard

>what is load driver

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>No benefits
Good luck trying to hot add and hot remove your nvme drive