Applel's most expensive product

What can a man do with 28 cores? I get that servers can use them, but are there really any Mac programs for standard users that use more than 2 or 4?

AMD still got a pretty bad rep for their CPUs and Applel prolly has longterm contract with Intel for dem Xeons.

Anything related to music and video? Obviously for photography too but doubt it makes too much sense there.

unironically because of Thunderbolt.

Intel only JUST announced thunderbolt support for platforms besides intel a few weeks ago, apple likely already had finalized specs for the new mac pro long before intel announced this.

Adobe uses a shitload of cores (CPU and GPU) to render.
Audio, video and photo creators /editors are the intended target demographic for these workstations, not gaymurs or Facebergers

They have a partnership with Intel. The idea is working with one brand helps optimization. Apple has dropped IBM and Nvidia before. Everyone likes to think they are developing ARM Macs and MacBooks to drop Intel

Because Zen prior to gen 3 was garbage and Apple started hacking together the Mac Pro years before Incel went into Meltdown.

They are only using AMD GPUs because they actually dropped Nvidia because Nvidia is price gouging them.

Same shit with other console makers dropping Nvidia years ago.

>price gouging
You wish, they dropped Nvidia because they sold apple faulty hardware and didn't want to cover the warranty, Apple lost lots of money due to that. Everybody hates nvidia.

>AMDrones think their Ryzens are worth buying in mobile
>newest Macbook has 9th gen and 10th gen Intel mobile parts
>AMDrones think their Ryzens are worth buying for OEMs and SIs
>Cheesegrater Mac has a 28-core Xeon, they'd easily dump the Vegas if Intel had a working and competitive GPU

funnily enough literally everything except gaming does better with these mega core systems

so more or less, everything except gaming

That's because most games are optimized for quadcores and are only adopting 6-8 cores now.

because no threadripper supports 1.5tb ram

>buying amd

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You're right, it supports 2TB with 256GB DIMMs.
But good luck finding them, and good luck having a board that has validated those DIMMs.

VM work.

audio is heavily IPC based tho
sample buffers can't even properly utilize more than 1 core

>What can a man do with 28 cores?
When your CPU throttles to 400MHz due to cutting corners on cooling, you need all the cores you can get.

really?

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I work with 150MP files full time for work and my i9900k and gtx 2080 and 64gb make my work flow seem like working on 12mp files what I'm doing is pretty much the top end of photoshop and photography work I can say with certainty anymore than 12 cores is no longer photo based specs and are indeed for music cad 3D and video

Wtf I only have 1 mom

What about a specialist photographer working on multi-gigapixel image collages?

Certainly far from the norm, but still just working with still images.

Is there anything that really works out a CPU in audio work anymore? I used ffmpeg to transcode to opus on a $20 android, and it took about 2 minutes to do 70 minutes of flacs.

>implying audio processing happens all on one channel
Based retard

>Nvidia is price gouging them
>But Intels $3000 8 core Xeon is fine

Sure thing

>Apple chooses to stick a GPU inside a passively cooled oven and it kills the card
>What the fuck how dare nvidia not take a financial loss to replace the cards Apple killed with damn thermal design

You obviously didn't go over the specs. Nothing about that machine is servicable beyond maybe dusting it. Everything is proprietary down to the dam nvme drive slots like they are on all mac book pros. All of the parts are apple specific... Service means having an apple dufus plug proprietary shit that costs 5x as much into your 'serviceable computer'.

OK that's not something I or anyone in the business I know does often or at all but you got me someone like they will indeed need more than my pc. I'm guessing the ram and cpu would need to be more than doubled

Correct... That being said, I enjoy MacOS and love its comfy feel to death but only on a laptop. I'd never buy their insanely priced desktops. Video/audio/media production... what apple is good at I guess. Video/media are cornered by adobe though that can run on any computer. Audio is a meme from what I can tell and needs insane core counts because the people who write the software are dimwits incapable of writing proper buffering algos for all the channels of audio they claim needs real-time processing

making shit up just to hate on something makes your valid points get ignored. stop pretending the mac pro is not user serviceable. that's what it's made for.

I honestly could give a shit less who wins/or gets rekt. All I care about is a great value for my builds and that is being achieved by AMD right now. If that changes down the road, I'll jump ship. OEMS/mobile/crapple can do whatever the fuck they want including ripping people off (something they always do). It means nothing to me.

Epyc supports 2 TB and isn't an inferno. btw, isn't this apple machine based on that insanely stupid catch-up gimmick from intel that needed a 2kw chiller to demo on stage? what the actual fuck?

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My understanding is that audio engineering software is just shitty especially in multi-core scaling which is what you'd imagine for the kind of engineers they hire for writing audio software

>isn't this apple machine based on that insanely stupid catch-up gimmick from intel that needed a 2kw chiller to demo on stage?
yeah, but they're not running it at 5ghz on all 28 cores

It's running at 2.5Ghz base with a turbo up to 4.4Ghz, but not on all cores.

>He doesn't have two lesbian moms

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The whole thing was a shit show from both sides.
Apple being apple decided to literally get rid of the standalone GPU in macbook pros and switched to poverty tier integrated graphics like performance so there's little to no heat. Macbook pros became macbooks and no one said anything about it.

It wasn't just apple, mate.
Everyone got burned by those faulty nvidia gpus in the Windows Vista days. They had a huge number of bad batches shipping to every OEM and several class action lawsuits.

blog.dell.com/en-us/nvidia-gpu-update-nvidia-class-action-lawsuit-and-limited-warranty-enhancement/

Does this retard response work for you typically?
See pic. Nothing was made up besides your stupid response.

eshop.macsales.com/shop/ssd/owc/macbook-pro-retina-display/2013-2014-2015
This is the same thing they do in their laptops only worst... It looks like a normal nvme drive but its keyed differently..

Service means a dickhead plugging their proprietary hardware in which defeats the point.

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LMFAO.. holy shit. So they're using that shit in the mac pro? HAHAHAHAHA, wtf is that thing 14nm?
Goddamn, apple holding to their trend of using 2-3 year old hardware and charging 5x markup

For audio production, intel still has a huge latency advantage, and AVX performance which impacts certain layered audio effects

Why would you wanna punch me just because i dont have two lesbian moms wtf

family isn't diverse enough, enjoy you're fine

>audio production
>latency advantage
Can you give me a quick rundown on why Ryzen is shit for that? I wouldn't have thought the processor would introduce any latency worth caring about.

thats because hes full of shit

>retard thinks that tracks inside a daw run on different cores
the audio sample buffer that gets processed by the CPU does
its why even threadrripper sucks at audio because of latency

I've heard a few other people say it too, not just this guy.

Specially Virtual Instruments need a lot of real time processing
IPC > Cores for audio

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Stop using vsts that favor Intel then

Shit, you made me remember trying to repair laptops from people who had dying NV cards. Disgusting fucking company.

Cause they have a contract with intel for the time being doy

NOOOOOOOOOOO HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN INTELBROS

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I fully expect ARM and iOS to merge together in the desktop/laptop space within the next 5 years.

stop talking like a faggot thx

mac os is not compatible with AMD CPUs

intel is probably paying Apple to keep using their chips at this point.

>Intel
>paying off Apple
>a company 10x their size and 5x their revenue
What a moron

if only consumers would drop apple for price gouging

aka the software is shit...
All processors are clocked beyond real-time.
If you write shitty software in web language, you will never exploit this properly in a multi-core machine. Cache latency has fuck all to do w/ audio production that runs at sample rats of :
44.1Khz which is
0.00002267573 seconds..

meanwhile a nano second is :
10−9 seconds
aka
0.000000001 seconds
500 nano seconds is :
0.000000500
No processor has this kind of latency in L1,L2,L3 cache
or inter-core comms latency of 500 nanoseconds.
You are 2-3 orders of magnitude under the audio sampling rate... aka its just shitty fucking software.
Shitty software