TorGuard suing NordVpn. Torguard claim NordVpn is blackmailing them with their wrongfully obtained confidential and trade secret business information. NordVpn aquired this from a service provider Torguard used but was apparently owned or bought by Nord.On top of that Torguard claim Nord was Ddosing them to hinder sales and tarnish reputation during Black Friday. NordVPN appear to also be Ddosing Torguard while simultaneously trying to purchase Torguard in a way of keeping them hostage.
Did Nord discover Torguard was logging on their servers and threaten to go public with it unless they sold themselves to Nord? Why did Torguard not have their servers encrypted in the first place to hide everything from host operators or incase of seizure? Will Torguard's lawsuit get anywhere with an attorney named "Losey" ? What do you NordVPN shills have to say about your vpn operating in such a shady fashion?
>Did Nord discover Torguard was logging on their servers and threaten to go public with it unless they sold themselves to Nord? Definitely. >Why did Torguard not have their servers encrypted in the first place to hide everything from host operators or incase of seizure? They feared repercussions. >Will Torguard's lawsuit get anywhere with an attorney named "Losey" ? It depends on the outcome of the colluding trade war. >What do you NordVPN shills have to say about your vpn operating in such a shady fashion? Together we can change the world, just one random act of kindness at a time.
Brody Gray
who cares
James Rodriguez
What is a good VPN anyway? Seems like there are tons. ProtonVPN any good? I already use their mail service.
Nolan Smith
ProtonVPN is just another front for NordVPN. They were literally caught using the same security certificate to sign their client code as NordVPN.
Jackson Gomez
Nord and Proton were both started by the same Lithuanian data mining company. Really makes you think.
1) the CEO of Tesonet, the CEO of ProtonVPN and the CEO of CloudVPN are all the same one person.
2) CloudVPN is not a payment processor. It uses PayPal to collect subscriptions from NordVPN. It's not that you pay to NordVPN via a payment processor called "CloudVPN", you pay to CloudVPN via some payment processor (PayPal for example). In such transactions CloudVPN is not the payment processor, it is the final beneficiary of your payments. To allow such payments via a web site interaction with PayPal, PayPal wants that the beneficiary is the web site owner.
Additionally, the developer of NordVPN application in the Google Play Store is CloudVPN. The developer of ProtonVPN application in the Google Play Store is Tesonet.
So you know that:
- CloudVPN is not a payment processor in the transaction phase, but the beneficiary of the payment
- CloudVPN signs the application(s) of NordVPN (therefore it has full access to Google Play Store keys of NordVPN)
- Tesonet signs the application(s) of ProtonVPN (therefore it has full access to Google Play Store keys of ProtonVPN)
- the CEO of Tesonet, CloudVPN and ProtonVPN is the same person
- CloudVPN introduced itself to PayPal as the web server owner of NordVPN
Wyatt Harris
>falling for the VPN scam It's so fucking obvious, just the fact that N*rdVPN was shilled here non-stop for several days was a massive red flag.
Jordan Taylor
Use Cryptostorm nigger
Thomas Sanders
Cryptostorm or Mullvad
Ryder Taylor
So that means never to use any of those.
Owen Watson
I don't get what the popularity is with VPN providers. Can't you just get your own VPS _anywhere_ and setup your own VPN?
Kevin Cooper
The second the host provider cooperates with authorities they monitor your VPS and see only one IP connecting to it and they find you vs. a GOOD vpn provider that has numerous users connecting to a single server which is running without a disk on RAM only that is encrypted so even if the server is seized nothing can be retrieved.
Ryan Robinson
again this argument, do you do things that attract high level of government intervention?
Lincoln Turner
it amazes me that people still use nordvpn
did they fucking forget that the company that owns nordvpn also owns HOLA?
Isaiah Powell
> 21. On or about May 17, 2019 an unknown individual appeared unannounced at the personal residence of a TorGuard contractor, asking to speak with him about his relationship with TorGuard and the VPN industry wow. that's fucked up.
Ryan Torres
Why the fuck are they shilling VPNs to normalfags that obviously have zero real uses for them? I even see them advertised on TV.
>I'll give up my, and everyone elses rights because I'm a model citizen This is what you sound like
Gabriel Lee
To datamine traffic. That's why google shilling https so hard, they actually care of 3rd parties as competitors, not your security bullshit.
Jason Baker
No you dumb fuck, I mean what kind of fucking horrific shit are you doing online to get top level agencies to subpoena some VPS just to get information from you. I keep on telling you fucks, don't be the low hanging fruit or the big juicy one that warrants getting a ladder for.
Jeremiah Davis
explain
Easton Thompson
VPN companies analyse your traffic - visited websites, etc. For http they also could see exact content you are browsing/sendins because of no encryption. So, since google have their adsence botnet on almost every page, that in fact gives them monopoly on user data. To protect this monopoly from ISPs and VPN, they shilling traffic encryption(https).
Carson Collins
>Mullvad I don't trust Sweden
Alexander Cox
Google can hoover up browsing data directly from Chrome so they can datamine whether users use HTTP or HTTPS. For other datamining companies, they rely on packet inspection to datamine, so if everyone switches to HTTPS, they're fucked.
Colton Robinson
Airvpn is one of the best that's not talked about much in terms of privacy. Think of them as the lavabit of vpns. They would shut down before logging customers. They also are one of the few vpns that makes huge donations to privacy groups and causes and even runs 10 high speed t0r exits. They currently have a huge bday sale going on with 3 years cheaper than 99 % of other competitors
Colton Gray
I wish they had WireGuard servers.
Jonathan Thomas
I like that analogy, I'm stealing it.
Nathaniel Thomas
Is there a VPN that isn't?
Camden Jackson
It has been shilled everywhere with that -75% discount for at least half a year already.
Carter Bell
>What do you NordVPN shills have to say about your vpn operating in such a shady fashion? All I have to say is, cry some moar losers!
You're a real dumbass aren't you? Places like the UK would subpoena a host provider just for a post you made drunk making fun of trannys
Joshua Mitchell
>to get top level agencies to subpoena some VPS just to get information from you What do you think these people do all day. It's their job to do exactly that.
Connor Long
>Airvpn It is anatifa central. Literally a terrorist organization according to the US government. kys commie faggots!
Ryan Reed
>Literally a terrorist organization according to the US government Everyone who has anything do to with privacy is a terrorist in the eyes of your government
Jack Morales
They clearly data mine. There's no way having 1 user spend $100 every 3 years would make enough money for their nonstop advertisement they've been shelling out
Charles Flores
Boys, simmer on the ol Jow Forums koolaid for a second here and think. What are the arguments about self hosting a VPN on a remote server? That there is only one IP connecting to it? Host a public searx instance. That they can grab logs from storage? You actually know if logs are going to /dev/null or what some retard thinks that VPN providers are doing and run VPN software in a RAMdisk. If you are worried about tracking by ports use fucking non standard ports. You have that ability with a VPS
Zachary King
There's nothing outwardly incriminating them as far as I've seen. Can anyone compile some proof? As far as I've known Nord was always one of the good ones.
All I'm doing is downloading movies, games, and porn. Have fun with all that info FBI men.
Sebastian Walker
for me, its vpc.ac
Tyler Martin
Lot of my favorite youtubers say nordvpn is good. No way in hell they'd do that.
Ayden Wilson
Sauce: my ass
Joseph Reyes
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Aiden Mitchell
I always knew all these VPNs were shady as fuck.
Jow Forumsentlemant running IceCat on Linux with https everywhere enabled and no vpn > typical Jow Forumstard running Brave on Winblows 10 through Nord, getting sniffed by three parties*
* Google through Brave, M$ through telemetry, Nord through VPN
If you REALLY need to do something shady use a public wifi and tails, retards. Otherwise, you can browse the internet just fine using a secure browser like Palemoon or IceCat.
You don't need a VPN for everyday use.
Landon Jones
This.
They're one of the few VPN's that don't even require email or username for signing up and they even accept fucking cash in the mail.
Caleb Brown
This. Use Iridium
Jordan Wright
>he thinks a public wifi is safe
Luke Reyes
I sad Tails on public wifi. Can you read nigger?
My point is that feeling safe using a VPN while using unencrypted communication like many people are doing is peak retarded.
Nathan Rogers
the glow is strong with this one
Chase Hall
> trusting VPN providers that are run by business entities registered in various tax havens somewhere in the caribean, with no public faces, could just be another CIA operation
anyone who uses a commercial VPN provider is IQ71 brainlet level retarded
>TorGuard suing NordVpn Someone give me the rundown. Who is in the wrong here?
Brayden Murphy
>the developer of NordVPN application in the Google Play Store is CloudVPN I just checked and this is false
Wyatt Williams
What does Jow Forums think of Private Internet Access?
Anthony Thomas
NSA botnet. anything based in the US can be subject to a backdoor or secret court order like what happened to lavabit circa 2013 this is why privacytools.io recommends using VPN based outside the 5 eyes
Cameron Kelly
>using public VPN top honeypot
Robert James
>get vps >yum install wireguard probably ends up costing less if you choose the right provider
Austin Roberts
>do hours of research >listen to 50 different view points >make a decision >buy 3 years of Nord VPN >next day log onto Jow Forums and regret decision
Jow Forums is the land of let downs, its like playing monkey in the middle
Cooper Mitchell
everyone knows nord is botnet
Joshua Bell
They did damage control and scrubbed everything they could but it was too late. Im sorry your VPN was made by datamining Tesonet in Lithuania.
nordvpn is absolute trash im letting my subscription run out and am changing over to PIA (or something else, no idea now) seriously, they removed fucking favourites. i cant even favourite servers anymore.
Logan Ortiz
there's a difference between using a remote service on someone else's machine vs using free/open source software that you can inspect the code and compile from source
Nathan Kelly
>PIA jfc trading one botnet for another. get mullvad and thank me later
Wyatt Taylor
Yeah I'm just saying that's kind of using a sledgehammer to push in a tack.
Ian Clark
>use a VPN at all Zommer faggots don't know shit about VPNs
Blake Morgan
AirVpn would be your best best. They are easily the best choice when it comes to the mission of a VPN. They give back the most to privacy causes and would shut down before ever logging anything on their baremetal servers that couldnt log anyway. They have a bday sale going on right now with 3 years for 90 bucks.
Here is their response to vpns not being worth it which is top notch
how often do they have these sales(my subscription runs out in september) also what are the speeds?
Luke Clark
Use Mullvad.
Jacob Garcia
There advertising blitz on youtube has been incredible. Damn near every medium-sized youtube channel I pay attention to has gotten promotion deals from NordVPN.
They're throwing around tons of cash, which makes me very suspicious of them. They must have another source of revenue, I don't see any way around that.
Robert Hughes
I'm a political activist dedicated to National Socialism, does that count?
Adrian Ortiz
EVERYTHING IS A FUCKING BOTNET AAAAAAAAAAAAAH
William Johnson
BDay (end of may),Black Friday, Christmas from what I remember. They have good speeds for their major servers but some random locations have average speeds only because speed isnt the biggest concern for a very privacy focused vpn. Read up on their forums and missions statements and you'll see what they are about. Try the 3 day trial for 2 bucks to see if it meets your needs.
Michael Morales
to be honest, whats wrong with tor or ips or jondonym? Why rely on some shady paid vpn provider?
Daniel Scott
Another red flag is the misleading nature of the advertisements. They're always talking about how if you do online banking on public wifi without a VPN, all your money will be stolen.
And while it's true that there are some risks associated with public wifi, that totally ignores the end-to-end encryption built into your browser that encrypts everything sent across an untrusted wifi network. NordVPN is preying on the general normalfag public's ignorance of HTTPS to promote their service.
Juan Howard
I use torguard and it works great for torrenting which is 100% of what I use my VPN for. Hopefully this doesn't affect me in any way. I looked into Nord but was weary with all the mass advertising they do.
Liam Williams
This is the question I ask my self since the first of these providers where popping up like cancer in a chain smokers lung.
A german IT security blogger recently discovered that NordVPN's official android app transmits personally identifiable information to NordVPN and a few third parties.
The checked version of their app is v3.9.8 which seems a few versions behind the current branch but still fairly recent.
The blogger discovered that a user's Google mail address along with the advertising ID and a bit of other info are sent to Iterable, AppsFlyer and Tune along with some Google services like Analytics - all seemingly without the user's consent and even without mentioning it in the app's ToS.
Of course customer support has been asked as well. Their answer was not satisfactory:
Hello there! We use these tools to monitor aggregated data to improve UI/UX and determine the efficiency of our marketing campaigns. They are not related to the user’s activity when using our VPN service. In case you have further questions, do not hesitate to drop us a DM!
Luis White
Oh, wow, I didn't knew we have a data mining company! And this big! Don't worry guys, I'll take it down.
Refund that trash since you are still in their return window. Get something like AirVPN that is actually a privacy focused vpn with real baremetal servers unlike Nord with 25% VPS's with spoofed locations. Airvpn has a 3 year deal for 90 bucks ending June 11th
Jordan Bell
>MITM attacks don't exist Jesus user this is Jow Forums not /v/ now fuck off.
Evan Jenkins
The chance of an sslstrip attack on public wifi is damn near zero. It's possible but very very far from likely.
Juan Anderson
Do you care about internet security?
Wyatt Moore
>tails Tails has nonfree software in it, which could be used to spy on you as no one knows what it does. They also include SystemD. Use Heads, it's Tails but fully libre, and it uses another init. heads.dyne.org/
Asher Diaz
You fucked up, you posted the clearnet link, luser.
