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Is YouTube a publisher or a platform?
Robert Robinson
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Christian Edwards
Youtube is a billboard.
James Brooks
YouTube is liberal conspiracy to dope up children's brains with pregnant spiderman
Cameron Gutierrez
>gets popular because of user content, much of which could not be aired on TV
>tries to make all content just like the content on TV
The net effects are strong, but they're going to slowly die like facebook.
Angel Diaz
Switching everything away from Google. I can't take it anymore. ProtonMail, Huawei, etc, here I come.
Camden Peterson
>Huawei over Samsung
Chink spying is better than american spying, how?
Samuel Torres
>Chink spying is better than american spying, how?
it is if you live in the US or Europe
William Barnes
> ProtonMail, Huawei...
Also compromised.
Lol. Not selfhosting and making your own phone
Daniel Watson
Can leftist even speech exist anywhere online without Stalinist censorship tactics?
Alexander Bell
it's a mistake
Dominic Ross
Every phone is spying. I give profit to the underdog, not $Apple$, etc.
Jonathan Gonzalez
They don't have direct power over you. Even if you aren't an American you almost certainly live in a Five Eyes or at least a Fourteen Eyes country meaning everything the Americans get on you will be shared with your local government to better fuck you in the ass with.
Jace Kelly
they give money to the content makers for making videos through ad money etc urging them to create more for the site.
Liam Walker
sounds like GOP is against the free market and free enterprise. Statists gonna statist, I guess.
Jeremiah Garcia
>Huawei
You are going from the pot to the microwave.
Get a Librem 5
Parker Price
>google
>leftist
7/10 made me reply
Caleb Anderson
>Librem 5
literally a honeypot
Easton Cooper
It uses 100% free software you can literally use Gentoo if you don't trust prebuilt binaries.
Dominic Perry
FUCK, HE'S GONNA REPEAL CDA230
Anthony Perry
So expensive, I might get a pine phone though. Esp if they make a mid tier one for $300
Joshua Rogers
Youtube is a loss leader. Operates on a loss but the information based on trends and propaganda opportunities are too great to pass over because it's central to alphabet's operations
Hudson Price
better the CIA nigger you know than the CIA nigger you don't
Chase Barnes
kys
Nicholas Reed
Someone's gotta do it. I'm really disappointed democrats refused to do anything when the dangers were clear and present over a decade ago let alone now. It's insane we have to rely on republicans getting buttmad
Blake Morales
Yes
Josiah Mitchell
Muh no true scotsmant
Camden Cruz
absolutely based and red pilled #woke
Dominic Howard
Publisher.
Ayden Brooks
>huawei
>proton instead of based sdf.org
Pleb
Michael Martin
this, time to be liable for everything they publish
Carter Baker
Huawei phones use Android. You're getting spied on by Google and China
Julian Morales
>huawei
preorder a librem or get an old N series Nokia, dumbfuck
Sebastian Davis
pleb
Carson Ortiz
WHERE IS THE TWENTY ONE PILOTS HITLER VIDEO!!???
Daniel White
Absolutely fucking based and nostalgiapilled
Austin Butler
>that ugly piece of shit
absolutely fucking degenerative, cringe and bluepilled
Chase Watson
Both.
For those who monetize their content, publisher.
For those who don't, platform.
Charles Gray
>sounds like GOP is against the free market and free enterprise. Statists gonna statist, I guess.
Government gave them special laws to exclude them from liabilities on the basis that they were a platform providing a service rather than a publisher that selectively chooses which content they show. If they selectively delete content they dislike they forfeit those protections. There's no need for any new laws, just for the existing ones to actually be enforced.
Easton Stewart
already did, anonkun
protonmail
mi
startpage
Aaron Gonzalez
Fpbp
Asher James
It's a public utility
Oliver Scott
>time to be liable for everything they publish
I’d be willing to give up Jow Forums if it meant the death of social media.
Lincoln Martin
Elsa spiderman video are Indians government conspiracy psyop to make future generations of america brain dead so they can become a superpower
Jaxon Diaz
is OP a nigger or a trannie?
Colton Rodriguez
Remember when freedom of speech was a corner stone of liberal politics?
Also
>not understanding the difference between being a publisher or a platform
Double digit IQs should leave
Tyler Barnes
Kevin Diaz
It's a platform but I'm ok with the publisher meme if it prevents censorship from fags
Michael Rodriguez
They've been deleting content they don't like for literally their entire existence. Gore, extreme violence, porn, for instance. But now they've just deleted stuff Jow Forums likes and you're all freaking out.
Evan Rivera
they arbitrarily changed their TOS to delete stuff that jewish groups didn't like practically overnight
Oliver Fisher
The ability to change the TOS is part of their TOS, presumably. It's not like the writing hasn't been on the wall for awhile, there's news articles every week or so about how youtube is tired of racist content or pseudo-pedo content. Eventually all that shit is gonna go.
You are always at the mercy of a corporation when you use a centralized service. Vimeo was a platform that didn't allow video game content for awhile (although a quick search indicates they now do). From what I can tell, Twitch ONLY allows video game content. But they're still not publishers.
This isn't a liberal or conservative lesson, this is a Richard Stallman lesson. Encourage people to switch to something like Peertube that is distributed rather than centrally controlled.
Joshua Stewart
You don't understand the network effect.
Whenever the value of your service is proportional to the number of people using that service, the end result is always a monopoly. For example, part of the value of Twitter is the ability to connect to so many people. A smaller platform might offer a much better service, but if you have 10 users and Twitter has a billion, everybody will use twitter.
The reason people are using Youtube is because everyone else is using youtube. That's why people click videos that have high viewcounts, instead of videos that they might find interesting (which is why youtube often hides the viewcount on recommended videos, so that more people will click lower view videos).
This is simply how human psychology works. With social networks like this, there WILL be a monopoly service, inevitably every single time. Whoever gets that role will also have all the money to hire the best, and become a completely unstoppable snowball. Vastly inflating the wealth of the CEO, and giving the company the power to abuse their consumers (which is just the general public). Effectively putting the public square in private hands
Xavier Jones
I don't know if that's inherent, popular social media networks change. People like shit like discord now because they can have their own chatrooms rather than making everything be completely public. The internet is the square. The web is a subsquare of that. Everything else is a bunch of overlapping subsquares.
If youtube dies I'll be mildly amused. AFAIK it doesn't even make any money. Everyone should host their own content. If it's less of a social network, all the better in my opinion.
Bentley Fisher
Sometimes people do want private chatting, and so that's why services like discord exist. But we're not talking about that. Because people also want validation, which is why social networks exist. And that is why these social networks will become monopolies over time. And it's even worse, the monopolies keep centralizing and forming even bigger superstructures, such as Google combining with youtube, or Facebook buying up Instagram. The snowball goes out of control.
The same thing was happening in the old days with the telecom companies. Everyone wanted to be on the largest telephone network possible, so they could connect to as many people as possible, creating these huge monopolies that dominated the market. That's why we passed the Telecommuncations Act in the first place. Forcing these companies to put calls through to competitors for example, and segmenting the market so the service providers didn't also literally own the telephone wires going to your house.
Benjamin Bailey
the chinks will share the data with their own gov at worst
unlike us companies that are selling it left and right for money
Luis Myers
I think telecoms are more analogous to ISPs, which should be dumb pipes to the internet. Because that is where an actual restriction is.
But once you're online, you can view whatever you want. I can go to Jow Forums. It's great. But I'm also glad the rest of the internet isn't like Jow Forums. That's great too. I can go to more moderated tech forums that are more relaxed and less ephemeral. I don't actually visit youtube to listen to people talk, I just use it for music sometimes. I think you're overestimating what percentage people are stuck on youtube.
If Google gets split from Youtube due to antitrust, I think that's good. More decentralized. But if they are forced to host any particular content, it will make the web more homogeneous, because it will have implications for everyone else. That's not a good thing.
Nathan Johnson
absolutely based answer
Josiah Scott
Youtube is a jew controlled anti-white hate platform and hate enabler. All the people running it need to be tried in courts for crimes against humanity and locked away for life.
Ryder King
have sex boomer
Blake Carter
it really is interesting how that symbiotic relationship between "creators" and advertising, as well as the top down imposition of 'allowed content' monetization policies have blurred the lines between the advertisement and the "content" itself
it uncanny how fast the creators morph from whatever originality they have in their first postings to propaganda spewers later on.
youtube feels very much like some sort of skinner box, and it operates not only on passive viewers, but on the "creative people" themselves