Time to start retraining :^)

In what actual fucking way? Wouldn't an AI coding imply that we reached the singularity?

Like concretely what?
Could most of the shit that dev boot camp grads do be automated?

Not if it's too dumb to self improve

no, the DNC are already rigging the process for old joe.
also he's a meme candidate that's only supported by people who want NEETbux but don't know enough about policy to know they're getting scammed

Biden would win very easily because a bunch of low IQ boomers would vote for him. The map would be like the 2016 map except with the rust belt states all being blue.

>Steven Pinker
ass

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Fuck off with the election shit

Coding has already eliminated programming jobs. Shit like FORTRAN was designed to eliminate the ballbusting job of writing assembly. Python is designed to eliminate the slightly less ball busting job of writing FORTRAN and C for shit. I guess he means something more brand dead than Python will emerge.

it's not just boomers, scores of millennial liberals love the guy even if he's diametrically opposed to all their beliefs because of their rosey perception of the obama admin

What % of people doing "basic coding jobs" have the cognitive ability to do intermediate or advanced coding jobs?

>The democrats seem poised to prop up creepy uncle joe, despite the fact that nobody actually likes him.

So, it's business as usual at the DNC.

That I doubt. Turnout would probably be very low if it winds up being Trump vs Biden. I doubt Biden will win the primary though. He'll get wrecked like Jeb did when the campaign really starts rolling.

>implying the half of the Dem's voting base that would rather establish anarchy than have another HUWHITE MAIL wouldn't tank the election just like the Berniebros did

It depends.

If you're an ex-"journalist" who learned to code in a boot camp and have only ever been exposed to languages like python, ruby, or javascript, and believe simple logic tests like Fizz Buzz have no place in an engineering interview, you're boned.

If you have a real education, or you're passionate enough to learn real programming and computer science skills on your own, there may be hope.

Nioce

based

Such an ass!

lol

I dunno, I voted for Trump last cycle, bit this guy looks interesting could possibly swing me over. I'll just wait and see how he holds up next year.

Its 100% name recognition, not a conspiracy. If you have a known name and it is 2 years before an election, surprise surprise you will probably be leading preliminary polling.

Americans don't even give a shit during the election cycle.

For me it's Mike Gravel

Absolutely not. The candidates for 2020 will be Tulsi Gabbard or Kamala Harris and Trump. Dems aren't going to give up on that "first woman president" award, as they know it will guarantee them substantial votes for the rest of their existence. Warren would've been their best bet but she permanently lost her chances by engaging Trump on the Indian thing.

That pic is pretty spot on.

If that is true, then I'd sure like to know what kind of input that supposed AI takes. There's absolutely no way current ML can take a natural-language description of a desired program and spit out the corresponding code, no matter how simple its domain.

CEOs are tech illiterate though. Look through the industry. They're stock market literate. It's not the same.

>A guy who promotes UBI as if jobs are non-existent has to fear monger to get people to vote for him
never let a cosmetic surgeon tell you how you look.

>Universal basic income promoter is using fear mongering tactics

Imagine my shock

I like Jow Forums for the simple fact that you guys can smell bs when it happens. On hackernews, everyone there is a silicon valley shill.

he literally want to give 1000 dollars to every american citizen, tax free. I guess the AIs are going to pay for that.

lol

Yeah, they will.

no he won't ever make it pass the primaries

This.

>what is VAT?

Also even the biggest capitalist advocates in history supported negative income tax.

Probably not, mainly because he's Asian and nobody likes Asians in the US.

But he's my favorite candidate so I hope he gets as far as he can.

(((Pinker)))

>Gabbard
She is the most attractive candidate by far. I'd have a threesome with her and Vishnu if you know what I mean.

Trump will dab on challengers

Who will program the AI that produces code?

le shit nigger

Al.

You disgusting faggot.

haha, look at this silly guy!

Milton Friedman wasn't the biggest capitalist you cuck. And even he got plenty of things wrong, like negative income tax. And UBI isn't a negative income tax.

Biggest capitalist economist in the last half decade then.
While his negative income tax had means testing, UBI is pretty similar. Plus there's no incentive to stay under a particular income, so no more welfare cliffs.

but what did the CTO say

No. The last half century would be Mises. Friedman was wrong about the 1920 and he's still wrong about the federal reserve.
The biggest difference between UBI and negative income tax, is that fucking yang isn't talking about cutting current entitlements, but Friedman's point was to centralize all hand out programs under the negative income tax wing. Both plans suck and won't accomplish the desired effect - there are people that would rather beg and live in the streets rather than work and you want be to believe they'd work if they had $1000 yeah right - but at least Friedman plan actually cut costs in theory.

>The biggest difference between UBI and negative income tax, is that fucking yang isn't talking about cutting current entitlements, but Friedman's point was to centralize all hand out programs under the negative income tax wing. Both plans suck and won't accomplish the desired effect - there are people that would rather beg and live in the streets rather than work and you want be to believe they'd work if they had $1000 yeah right - but at least Friedman plan actually cut costs in theory.

Yang would give you an option between basic entitlements. You wouldn't get $1000/month AND welfare. You would have to choose. It would cut costs when people move out of welfare cliffs. It would cut costs because lazy people will just take $1000/month rather than fill out welfare forms. Means testing is a bunch of wasted bureaucracy with negative incentives for borderline cases.

Ultimately it would likely eventually replace standard welfare entirely.

Regarding free healthcare, if you were to provide socialized healthcare you improve the ability of people to work. I can start a business easier if my healthcare cost bargaining is not tied to the collective bargaining of a corporation but instead collective of the entire US. It is a pro-capitalist position.

Who said anything about free health care? That's a different topic that Americans insist on ignoring that other countries have - with mixed results.

Lastly: what was the last big government program to end? What makes you think Yang is more capable of ending government programs than everyone that came before him?

no. AI will replace basic data entry shit, not creating entire apps from the ground up. It might assist in some things like generating the UI components or something

>Who said anything about free health care? That's a different topic that Americans insist on ignoring that other countries have - with mixed results.
I only brought it up preemptively because one might argue that it is an entitlement and it is mentioned on Yang's policy page. I am happy not to mention it.

>Lastly: what was the last big government program to end? What makes you think Yang is more capable of ending government programs than everyone that came before him?
FDR's make-work programs ended eventually. Yang probably won't go out of his way to end other welfare, but there have been programs that get absorbed by others, and legislators change and remove programs periodically. The Mental Health Systems Act of 1980 was mostly replaced/killed in the Reagan Era.

He's casually glossing over AI that writes its own code. Complex stuff. But not career threatening.

This is most certainly true for frontend devs. InfoSec will be the thriving area of the future.

That's because everyone who's on hackernews has a cock in their mouth and a dilating dildo in the puss-filled wound where their genitalia used to be.

I gotta say I'm not very hopeful that the last program you could think of was 40 years ago. This doesn't bode well for his plan.
But understand that I am in your side in this debate. I'd rather have Yang or Tulsi than any other republican or Democrat, only because of their foreign policy. Specially Tulsi.

id vote for tulsi over delaney or gayjay, even if she isnt quite as libertarian as id prefer.
shame about warren, id really like to see tech companes broken up.

yang is an absolute retard and so is anyone that unironically "supports" ubi

So will I (or any other luddite) be able to use this "basic coding AI" to make a video game, a file organizing script, or anything? Would this even be available to the general public?

Thankfully Bernie is the next president.

#YangGang

>AI is going to--
Yeah no. Basedboys are hyping up things with zero substance. Call me when we have an "AI" that can solve the WSC.

Well, the government is slow as shit. There have been a bunch of canceled infrastructure plans in the meantime, which is a real bummer as well. To be honest his plan isn't to get rid of the other programs anyway so we'll see (assuming he manages to win) if he can actually implement UBI at all.

I don't particularly think my job or field is at stake, but I do think a bunch of jobs are gonna be hit hard soon (massively reduced number of truckers and retail workers), and we may as well have a plan that both gets people through joblessness but doesn't encourage people to stay jobless.

Glad we're all anti-pointless war.

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Andrew Ng, who is the one of the leading experts of AI, has said that in the next 20 years, AI will replace jobs that consist of tasks that don't require more than 2 secs of thinking. Things like deliveryman, security guard, etc. I think programmers will be fine.

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Why does every ”tech CEO" completely misunderstand the applications of AI? It's like their understanding stems entirely from movies and television instead of reality. Anyone who could program an AI to interpret human wants and then accurately produce a functional program based on those wants and maintain it would be rolling around in money if the technology existed because it's not fucking easy. It's more cost effective to hire some pajeet for $1/hr to write shit code.

Drives me crazy whenever he brings up ML. I keep thinking it is Andrew Ng

Pajeets have already taken all the basic coding jobs.

(f+s)pbp
Why is Jow Forums so based today?

Disgusting

daily reminder that no jobs is safe

you simply don't understand the illuminati.

Trump is gonna win, the whole thing is a show and tell.

Whores will never run out of business. Even if sexbots are invented.

He's a literal Chinese agent.

No. Absolutely zero fucking chance.

There is absolutely zero chance an outsider gets elected as a Democrat.

Gang's policies are irrelevant, he is not going to win the primary voter base of older people who just vote for the official party candidate.

> going to replace a lot of basic coding jobs

Maybe really basic font design and such can be automated or made so easy that it becomes much more accessible (thus the jobs kind of fall down there). It's very hard to replace a competent programmer (and the decision making process behind it). Programming is a creative work, especially the more complex the task is. An IT product is dependent on client requirements, it needs to fit within certain business models and processes and then the programmer needs to make something with this that appropriately satisfies the needs. Due to the high amount of creativity involved it is one of the hardest things to properly automate and is very low risk in being made irrelevant by AI applications. It's more though that specific programming skills get increasingly outdated in favor of other techniques which a programmer should continue to keep learning.

No, you fucking idiot.

Stop thinking robots typing and start thinking about boilerplate/testing/debugging/maintaining code being simplified through simple tools.

believes the elections are decided by the people. you are a mindslave.

They are business / sales / legal department guys who made it to CEO due to having good insight in key decision making aspects. It usually doesn't include a full technical understanding of the technical aspects in the company. It mostly includes a thorough knowledge of financial processes and flows, information flows and processes within the company and models for company growth / decline in many areas. Those competencies and knowledge is much more important to a CEO than a technical background.

I like him for president because he's interested in actual progress and not fake social issues. The way we collect taxes and view success of a nation really does need go change. It's very ironic that he's the closest to what many alt right want, a man who wants to look out for the actual people of the nation as a whole rather than the economy or brownie point minority issues to look good. He's a populist like Trump, except Trump focuses more on foreign relations like trade and impact of foreign trade on jobs, whereas Yang focuses on internal issues like impact of native tech companies on jobs and the economy.

That said he's got a weak message, too focused on radical solutions that milquetoast conservatives hate even if it would help them, and he's probably running the wrong platform for Democrats.

Sad. We're going to see a lot of angry truckers in the future. Companies are already planning to deploy tier 4 autonomous trucks for regional trucking in the next few years. Cars are next. By the time Trump's presidency is over, because hes projected to win 2020, we're going to have a new job crisis as almost tier 5 trucks start early testing.

Also, his tweet is stupid. Basic coding is already one of the most automated jobs in the world. IDEs are borderline psychic now and the JVM is a fuckin marvel of technology that has superseded a lot o manual platform configurations developers used to do decades ago. The jobs didnt go away for us though, not necessarily. When the going got tough the good ones responded with better, more complex software while the retards got swallowed up by influx of newcomers thanks to a lower barrier of entry. Unfortunately for truckers they're dumber, worse drivers than simple math, so they're gonna get fucked. But at least I wont have to worry about 3 trucks side by side blocking the entire fucking highway in a few years, or big haulers slowing down the passing lane

Guys, I'm a consultant at a software company that is developing this AI tech as we speak. The guys in the deep learning division told me that AI will absolutely replace the majority of programming jobs within the next 15 years.

The company initially started as a data harvesting venture and as they built spiders to do the harvesting, they started to increasingly automate all of the functions, including the analysis and categorization of the data. They were recently bought by a massive American corporation and they have been told to focus all their efforts on the deep learning and AI side of things.

It wasn't some out of touch CEO that told me most programming jobs will be obsolete, it was the programmers themselves.

That's a good sign because the eggheads who work on AI haven't gotten a single one of their claims right or on time even once. Most of them cant even develop software at all and rely on developers who dont know anything about AI but just parse math to implement it

Exactly. It’s about there being an order of magnitude less work to do.

this chinks are working hard to meme him into presidency

Good to see you know nothing about American politics. AOC isn't even eligible to run until the 2028 election

>Programmers over promising to management
How surprising

Ain't gonna happen, there's no available data set to parse with AI for it to learn how to interpret vague human wants and produce functional code as a result. By the time you give the AI detailed instructions of what you want you may as well have written the program yourself. I believe AI will replace many things, but programming will be one of the last.

Nothing wrong with that, running an organization effectively is its own skill itself - but don't pretend like you know what you're talking about if it isn't your specialization.

Turnout will be high solely to keep Trump out even though the dems are trying as hard as possible to sabotage themselves again by running Biden

>he's probably running the wrong platform for Democrats.
I seriously disagree. As a liberal and reluctant Democrat, he runs almost the exact platform Democrats should have always been running. I can now just point to his website to explain 85-90% of my political positions. He doesn't have the best understanding of computers, but his understanding of computers is miles ahead of every other US presidential candidate I can recall.

I don't like Biden, but assuming gets through the Democratic primaries, he'll likely out-demographic Trump because he'll win back the rust belt and get a lot of black voters because he's associated with Obama.

My father at Nintendo gave me the inside source about AI.

Even though I have no experience in AI I had to ask a higher authority on the subject before I myself speculated the outcome.

Trust me bro I am enlightened on this subject now.

>silicon valley
Yang is pretty against Silicon Valley

What do you do when an advanced general AI starts to discriminate against blacks and mexicans? It's a self-learning system so by trying to put some limitations on what it can think, you'll only end up making it dumber.