Ohnononono intel coffee lake btfo amd ryzen desktop multi single core seething

>that due to a detection and threading issue, the playing field was evened out so that AMD couldn’t just exploit a bug.
explain the bug in detail. otherwise it's a GenuineIntel-tier 'fix'

cpuid.com/news/51-cpu-z-1-79-new-benchmark-new-scores.html

>When the 1st version of the benchmark was released in 2015, it was tested on all existing architectures to check the relevancy of the scores. Almsot two years later, Ryzen was introduced, and scored - core for core and clock for clock - almost 30% higher than Intel Skylake. After a deep investigation, we found out that the code of the benchmark felt into a special case on Ryzen microarchitecture because of an unexpected sequence of integer instructions. These operations added a noticeable but similar delay in all existing microarchitectures at the time the previous benchmark was developed. When Ryzen was released, we found out that their ALUs executed this unexpected sequence in a much more efficient way, leading to results that mismatch the average performance of that new architecture. We reviewed many software and synthetics benchmarks without being able to find a single case where such a performance boost occurs. We're now convinced that this special case is very unlikely to happen in real-world applications. Our new algorithm described below does not exhibit this behaviour.

The algorithm is even explained on the page.
Now kys.

>When Ryzen was released, we found out that their ALUs executed this unexpected sequence in a much more efficient way.

>What did they mean by this?

Oh no my 2700x is 1% slower in single thread that I literally never use not even in games
By your own graph intcel have regressed in multi core as well which is a fucking kek

OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN

Can’t you read?
The other processor architectures at the time has a noticeable delay when the workload ran. The new algorithm no longer has a delay on any microarchitecture. It’s called levelling the playing field so that the workload didn’t favour AMD because of optimisations they had made. AMD cheated, whether intentionally or unintentionally.

it's true intel has higher single core perf and that isn't going to change with zen 2

HOWEVER

smt. smt that doesn't need to be turned off. intel are a fuckin joke

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>compared a 12t to a 16t

LMAO.
Now play fairly and watch intel BTFO you.

>>What did they mean by this?
they meant that they we OK with using a shit benchmark, as long as the results agreed with every other benchmarking suite.

Did they fix their algorithm?
No. They fixed the outcome.

>AMD cheated
lol keep justifying your shit benchmark

You can't cheat unintentionally. Cheating means that you have intent to bypass something.

It shouldn't be viewed negatively that Ryzen beat their algorithm. They're basically REEEEing that their test got beat.

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>AMD cheated, whether intentionally or unintentionally.
ahahaha,
so
>SMACKS LIPS
you be sayin
that Ryzen is built around cpu-Z?
Thank you for your insightful addition to this retard's blog.

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I wonder if the intel processors are patched

This thread is a failure
>what is smt
>what is mitigations

If you actually make Intel cpus even semi secure they lose at fucking everything. Badly. This isn't debatable.

Intel shills you guys need to learn marketing will not fix your fabs.

>thinking AMDjeet didn’t optimise for this workload
Fucking lol

>Intel Jews calling anyone names
Watch out schlomo you might violate your SOP and lose those shekels

>What did they mean by this?
It means Zen was too fast for its own good and had to be taken care of.

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>>compared a 12t to a 16t
wait till he posts a 9900k vs 2700x benchmark, with the 9900k being 4% faster in single threaded programs.
...but he won't mention that 9900k is a 220 Watt TDP CPU, compared with a 125 one.

meantime in the real world
and that's not even counting ryzen 3 nor security (((mitigations))).
get fucked shills

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>Hey, let's build this billion dollar new CPU architecture while we swim in billions of debt.
>OK, but what to target? Data center workloads? Scientific workloads? GPGPU workloads? Consumer workloads?
>No. Target cpu-Z workloads

You inteltards are getting dumber by the minute.

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Oy vey that's antisemitic goyim don't you dare use facts against a jew

Why are we talking about zen+ zen 2 will be here in what? 30 days?

well some inturd is coping extra hard right now.

Because this thread was made by a literal paid Intel shill and he's now kvectching behind the screen trying to come up with a new argument.

Christ I hate all you shills and fools that think synthetic benchmarks are worth anything at all.

At least GAYMING benchmarks test something - what exactly does cpuz test? Arbitrary useless nothing

AMDjeet BTFO in multi thread
anandtech.com/show/13400/intel-9th-gen-core-i9-9900k-i7-9700k-i5-9600k-review/
Kys

Oy vey this is anti semtic quick tell OP to contact the ADL for cyber bullying.

Man this thread is not going well for team jew is it.

>unpatched cpus
>smt on
You are a stupid fucking kike aren't you

>applying enterprise mitigation’s to consumer products
Oops

>I don't care if my payment channels are fucked beyond repair, and my steam account gets banned because someone else is using them now.

Good goy.

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>GAYMING benchmarks test something
that component is called a discrete graphics card

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You should kill yourself unironically if you really belive this.

>anandtech
>a valid source
They haven't even posted a single article on Zombieload, FFS

Press 16+

Otherwise you are literally comparing to old Intel HEDT chips and AMD Ryzen 5

>tfw cannot hit 3000 @ 4GHz

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except that the only benches that google spits out are in the 3200-3300 points range.
nice inspect element, jew
enjoy your housefire CPU throttling during prolonged usage

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QUICK GOYIM PATCH IT PATCH IT PATCH IT

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cry bitch
valid.x86.fr/x21m5t
valid.x86.fr/a2ta5z

Back to you go

>ideapad 330
>1050ti
sounds crispy

>do you smell something burning?

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seething

>Getting Lenovo laptop that is not Thinkpad, or bare minimum Legion
Y I K E S
I
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>buying stink pads or gaming laptops

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The fact that amd stock holders throws up jew jokes every other post tells me what I need to know.

>everyone that does not agree with me is an AMD stock holder.

Very delusional.

Tell me, how does an Intel reactor explode?

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>We reviewed many software and synthetics benchmarks without being able to find a single case where such a performance boost occurs.

Reading. Try it some time.

Does there exist a place that actually gives unbiased views on Ryzen vs Intel? Thanks to Jow Forums I actually have no idea what is cpu is better because of the constant shit flinging by both sides.

Yes but Jow Forums will only post pro AMD because they’re shills.

>using a benchmark that was updated right after ryzen was out so you would get lower scores.

2700x is 105W.

Oh it's that benchmark where ryzen was ahead but it shouldn't be possible so the benchmark was "fixed" again.

Why does anyone give a shit about single core performance in 2019? I can see it being a relevant 10 years ago when barely anything utilized more than 1 core per process but today even games are using 8+ cores.

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ONE: nothing wrong with me.

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>itt we pretend kikeripper and ryzen 3 don't exist

TWO: Nothing wrong with me!

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So for $100 less you get about the same performance?

I can't tell if you're defending Intel or not.

P. S. Why don't posts with more than 5 quotes get instantly deleted for spam?

Based shizoposter

OY VEY, SHUT IT DOWN

Someone post principled technology benchmarks STAT!

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AMD employees have mod privileges on Jow Forums

so I pay a lot less for a CPU that performs slightly less than the competition?
Sign me up

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Depends on if your GPU is the bottleneck or not. That budget KIA might be a good choice for you if all you do is drive 30 to your job at McDonalds.

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>boomer game

Nothing wrong with being the CEO of McDonalds bruh, dont hate on me for my career

why can't 7nm beat 14nm by a large margin?

Based german enginiggering retard.

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> 2700x: jump from 720p to 1440p, lose 0.38& of performance
> 8700k: jump from 720p to 1440p, lose 8.44 performace
unless you play on 90s resolutions and 90s game engines, you are in for a Ryzen.
thanks, dumbposter for the help.

14nm is already beating intel's 14nm,
but intel ships a 220Watt TDP CPU against a 125Watt TDP cpu.

>167 minimum fps at 1440 isn't enough for you

The amount of people who own 240hz monitors is even smaller than people who own 144, which is an even smaller group than people who own 120hz monitors.

Seriously the cost savings and the better multi-tasking performance makes ryzen a no brainer unless you need a billion fps. But then again youre gonna get more fps from ditching the 1080ti for a 2080ti than taking intel over ryzen

Dude, everything is wrong with you.
Get a life, or a least a job, so you won't have to embarrass yourself this horribly for shekels.

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>it doesnt exist until it hits the shelves

Have amd intcel

>ryzen 3 will drop like hiroshima and intel will finally be put to rest
What a time to be alive

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Hilarious how AMDrones pretend that gaming and FPS doesn't matter, unless Ryzen is on the lead.

10+ years of Ryzen development after being sunk by Core2Duos and 3 generations of Ryzen...just to barely beat last year's Intel processors.

AMDrones take desktop CPUs seriously, when Intel themselves don't care about the desktop market since they have no real parts until 2021-2022 or ever. Even with fucked up factories and supply issues they can easily move their desktop parts to all those gook companies that are making AMD CPUs but they choose not to, they would rather throw billions to build their own factories in Portland, Israel and Ireland.

>CPU-Z benchmark
You'll get comparable results taking numbers from /dev/urandom

Desktops are already obsolete

>intel on cruisecontrol while they iron out the last few bugs in their AMD killing 7nm products
>still beating AMD who are floundering at 10nm

The absolute state of rypoo shills

I think you have some names mixed up, senpai.

What anime is that bottom image from?

boooof

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what's going on there

I think he meant tdp dumbass

>Ryzen's ALU is too fast
That's LITERALLY a GenuineIntel-tier fix.

So cpuz went from representing reality to representing Intel's interests? Hmm I wonder why.

Mean you got rused by the poo.

>le rypoo XD

>may 2 2017
ok