I think this is an important topic that doesn't get discussed all that much. How does technology make us more lonely and isolated? How can we use technology to make us less lonely?
My personal experience: I've been highly motivated the past couple years, and spend a lot of my free time learning about science, technology, and linguistics. But every piece of knowledge I acquire makes me feel more isolated, because I have no one to share it with. The people I know IRL mostly only exist on either end of the spectrum: (1) 100% turbo-autist neckbeards, or (2) 100% turbo-normie who couldn't give a shit. I want to meet other people like me who have autistic interests but are also capable of being down-to-earth and socially aware. Every piece of knowledge I gain isolates me further because I can only discuss it with you neckbeards or on r*ddit. I am slowly losing it.
>How does technology make us more lonely and isolated? Since we can use technology to distill the logic components from an animal form of communication making sounds and breathing each others smells, we become desensitized to the idea of others.
>How can we use technology to make us less lonely? We can't. There is always a "friction" when casting reality into a technological form, which saps energy and introduces entropy. Even efforts with the outright intend of reducing loneliness, like some AR/VR system that will bring people together virtually, will result in poorer real-world experiences.
Tech is NOT good. We're in it because we're good at it, but we might as well be working to make cigarettes more addictive or alcoholic drinks more devastating to the brain.
Parker Ward
>muh we wuz doomers cringe thread
Matthew Powell
tech is like a suit of armour. it separates you from the world
Brandon Butler
If I was a doomer I wouldn't be bothering trying to find a way out
Nathaniel Sullivan
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Tyler Wood
"tech" is not a fucking autonomous entity, it doesn't make someone lonely. Forced loneliness through economic isolation is a sign of a very sick society model. Lonely minds in the past made themselves messengers of the sun, the storm or whatever mistery at that time, and were somewhat respected. Nowadays, if you are lonely, there is a chance that nobody cares, thus leading you to your old friend named sadness.
Caleb Johnson
>"tech" is not a fucking autonomous entity Imagine being this naive.
Tyler Morgan
Tech makes you lonely. We didn't evolve to cope with it.
Colton Thompson
this. technology was a mistake. kazcynski was right about everything.
Alexander Brooks
I use gentoo
Hunter Fisher
It wasn't a "mistake". It evolved out of complicated systems meant to manage and subjugate large societies. We're just the fodder.
Joseph Peterson
take your meds
Hudson Rodriguez
The big pharma makes you go schizo. Don't ever take meds.
Gavin Thompson
Was this generated with a markov chain?
Jordan White
When i lived alone I would resort to alcohol to cope. Now I don’t live alone so all is well
The idea is to learn about tech, science, etc. and use it to make social connections by appealing to and gaining the respect from normies. You have nothing to gain from trying to gain respect from 100% neckbeard autists.
Examples: 1. Using science to make you a better cook, to come up with interesting new ideas/methods like that Blumenthal fag 2. Applying programming and tech to stuff that normies are interested in, areas like gardening, or cool robotics or something
Isaiah Sullivan
>he thinks hes not in the first group bro..
Jason Davis
Well that's why I feel so isolated. I'm MOSTLY in the first group. I spend my evenings watching conference videos, university lectures, and shitposting here. But I still like going out to bars (not clubs—you can't have a conversation there) and smoking weed on weekends. I know I'm not some special snowflake, there MUST be other people like me out there. How do I reach them? btw Im living in different country where a different language is spoken, so this challenge is amplified for me
Austin Fisher
I feel like Jow Forums is the technological home for Jow Forums. A good percentage of people on Jow Forums can relate to you (me included). In my experience, I'm pretty much very similar to you; I've always had an interest in technical things, but I've always felt that the more I learnt on niche tech topics, everyone else stops communicating with you because they get lost in the oversimplified explanation of tech topics that everyone else on here blatantly disregards as they already have the fundamental knowledge and understanding of said topic.
That being said, the people who I interact with on a daily basis who don't know me treat me like an idiot and those who are actually smart enough to understand my explanations do speak to me but attribute that knowledge to my slightly-autistic social behavior instead of the person who I am - I can understand that. Meanwhile, when I get back at others for being twats to me, they end up getting angry and pissed off because they didn't expect someone like me to defend myself.
I feel like would get along. I share that sentiment about clubs
Brody Clark
loneliness is good, you retard! it is a rare privilege
unless you are poor, of course
Blake Foster
Aren't D&D and Sci-Fi clubs exist for people like you?
Benjamin Price
hot him, but those places are probably full of "100% turbo-autist neckbeards" he wants to avoid
Bentley Robinson
>That being said, the people who I interact with on a daily basis who don't know me treat me like an idiot and those who are actually smart enough to understand my explanations do speak to me but attribute that knowledge to my slightly-autistic social behavior instead of the person who I am - I can understand that. Meanwhile, when I get back at others for being twats to me, they end up getting angry and pissed off because they didn't expect someone like me to defend myself. holy shit I can relate to this. you just cant win.
Connor Green
you were supposed to find those kinds of friends during your uni years user.
Zachary Mitchell
Fuck joining a club
Aiden Bell
not him but I didn't go to uni. never stood a chance
Christian Gonzalez
People are more isolated because people are just more shitty in general. It has nothing to do with technology.
Brayden Moore
>club just get acquainted with your fellow students between classes or something, that's how I met all my close friends from uni. like-minded people find each other why?
Ryder Edwards
>like-minded people find each other ain't nobody got a mind like mines
Isaiah Hill
can't afford it. no student loan system where I'm from, only state grants. I had good engineering offers but my dad refused to pay, so I can't go since the grant is based on his level of income. I've been in dead end jobs for 5 years already and want to kill myself. at least I'll have the satisfaction of watching him rot in old age with no assistance
Wyatt Thomas
are you from the US or something? I was in a similar situation but fortunately the public universities in my country are completely free
Hudson Reed
no I'm from a small tax haven
Isaiah Perry
What's with this Jow Forums garbage on the front page?
I would prefer to be friends with turbo-autist neckbeards because they are more likely to like what I like, Linux and anime.
Gavin Watson
> How does technology make us more lonely and isolated? People are more likely to stay inside than go out. >How can we use technology to make us less lonely? Find meetup groups or social activities like dancing, martial arts, etc online and go to them.
Pretty obvious imo
> But every piece of knowledge I acquire makes me feel more isolated, because I have no one to share it with. The people I know IRL mostly only exist on either end of the spectrum: (1) 100% turbo-autist neckbeards, or (2) 100% turbo-normie who couldn't give a shit. I want to meet other people like me who have autistic interests but are also capable of being down-to-earth and socially aware. You're not trying hard enough. Get in touch with local CS students online. It helps if you have some project or group you're building so you have an excuse to talk to them.
Thomas Ward
>How does technology make us more lonely and isolated? I don't know if that's technology in itself, as in computers. I think the most damage is done by modern marketing that does its best to remove everything between the individual and the market, rendering entities like marriage and family meaningless. Urbanization, a direct consequence of the industrial revolution, is also at fault, as cities grow bigger it removes the sense of a local community.
I always had a group of guys i hung out with in highschool and uni but for some reason it never stuck. We never went out outside of class and when those were done we just stopped talking. I suppose they all already had a circle outside of school and didn't need to add to it. It seems that most friendships form around a place or a hobby and once that's done then there's nothing more to talk about, as nobody is emotionally connected to each other. And that seems to get worse with adulthood. I don't really mind, as those relationships feel shallow and don't really fill the void anyway.
Aiden Sanchez
You don't need other people, you don't need friends, they only drag you down, distract you and annoy you. If you are doing whatever it is you are doing only to discuss it later with someone and have people approve/support/guide you then you are doing it for the wrong reasons. Faggot.
Ian Wilson
That's true, but isolation itself leads to weird forms of mental illness. If it weren't for that I would have no problem living alone for the rest of my life.
Wyatt Price
There aren't mental illnesses, there are just deviations from the so called normies and if you get to know enough people you will realize there is no "norm", everyone is a bit wacky in their own way. So right now you are just stressing about your image and that makes you a faggot.
