Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY >List your uses e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors include purpose & graphics pairing >NO Speccy or "bottleneck checkers"
CPUs >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming >R3 2200G - Light 30-60fps gaming(dGPU optional). 2400G if you want a CPU which can last into a GPU upgrade >R5 2600/X - Good 60fps+ gaming & multithreaded use >R7 3800/X - Best for gaming, launching 7/7 >R9 3900X/3950X - Budget HEDT or gaming+streaming on a single PC, launching in July >Threadripper - HEDT
>Intel CPUs are now defunct. Even used i7 workstations are no longer worthwhile due to vulnerabilities and performance regression >B550 boards will likely launch in August
RAM >NEVER use only a single stick >8GB - very light use, and/or if you don't mind closing programs regularly >16GB - standard amount. If you have to ask if you need more, you don't >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2800MHz+ is ideal. Check "more" link for true latency formula
Graphics cards 1080p >RX 570/580 - value. >1660 - Slightly better perf for more demanding games on high/maxed 60fps+ > 1660Ti / Vega56 - higher framerates 1440p (WQHD) >used 1070Ti / Vega - 60-120fps+ in most games on high/maxed >Above Vega offers progressively poorer and poorer value. Wait for the RX 5000 series 2160p (4k) >Wait for better priced GPUs. 2080Ti is only 1.85x the performance for 4x the cost of a $300 GPU, and still only does 30fps in many games.
>RX 5700 series is launching in July. Nvidia Super may be as well. Wait for independent benchmarks if considering a >$300 GPU
Other >Consider a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & HDD >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard >PLAN BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>OP is a AYMMD shill still peddling zen2 garbage while a 180$ 9400f BTFOs anything from that lineup
like pottery
Isaiah Russell
E3 news: Navi is DOA
Aaron Wilson
>worse monitor is better wat
Cooper Morris
>all the answers there are valid yeah sawing it into two is very valid
Brody Cook
my hopes have been expertly crushed by Vega again
Sebastian Adams
Stop evading your ban. No one wants that pozzed, nerfed garbage that's still full of dozens more undisclosed security vulns.
Image quality doesn't matter. Why do you think people kept buying Nvidia GPUs after it was revealed they were greatly sacrificing image quality for just a few more FPS in benchmarks?
Asher Rodriguez
the case, dumbass, not the gpu
Noah Reed
Who else giving up on games and gaymen PC's? I hear guitar is a cool hobby to take up.
Gavin Roberts
What if I want to use 4x8 GB ram for X570. Will 4 channel increase latency?
Alexander Jones
>mfw navi is just 7nm polaris with higher clocks and gddr6 >mfw they are charging 500 bucks for what is basically polaris
He's right. It's the same die size as Polaris, the same grade of PCB componentry, no interposer and conventional memory. It's going to have really high margins. It could've been priced at $250 while still remaining profitable while the same would've been impossible for Vega.
Henry Jenkins
likely one of the few system in which breaking 4ghz memory speed is gonna be needed
I'd imagine it's why amd hanst released it yet. it light just be a slight better multitasking tool that 12 core while having amazing single core
William Baker
Looking for the best laptop I can get for ~$500. Ability to vidya would be nice, not expecting anything incredible though.
Hudson Price
Do you guys think that the RX 5700 XT anniversary edition is going to trade blows with 2080 or come somewhat close to it? If the 5700 XT ends up beating the 2070 by few % and the anniversary edition ends up being a bit faster than that, then I'd imagine that it's within ~5% from the 2080.
Nathan Richardson
is there such thing as a 4k60 monitor that can scale to 1440p 120 well?
this would be mad cash isnt it?
also any other competitor to apples 6k monitor that costs 6k usd
Evan Nguyen
>same die size = same cost No because 7nm is twice as expensive, you tard. Sure, they could have priced it cheaper. Nvidia could too. >b-but Nvidia's prices are AMD's fault!
Best $500 laptop you'll get is with Vega APU like the 3750H or one with an MX150 GPU.
No. It'll be somewhere between a 2070 and 2080. >within 5% No.
Yes, since it supports around DDR4 5000MHz in 2:1 mode. 5000MHz is plenty of bandwidth.
Asher Stewart
super will ruin that
and old rtx cards will get price cuts
plus A die rtx shit
such a gamble gpus became, really a hassle now. if at least rx had hardware ray tracing...
Evan Nelson
>Best $500 laptop you'll get is with Vega APU like the 3750H or one with an MX150 GPU.
So should I try to sell my 650W Gold PSU and get a 550W or lower Gold PSU? (even when getting a dedicated GPU eventually?)
And should I try to sell my 1TB HDD and get a 500GB SSD instead? Would it be more than enough? I don't do any video editing or streaming I just play a few games and use it for schoolwork.
Austin Stewart
Same die size = same yields at a given wafer size. This time, they're giving you neither a compute monster nor an overbuilt card. It's profit all the way. They pulled an Nvidia. I'm not clearly not trying to say Nvidia did anything right, by the way. Don't act like I'm your eternal nemesis.
Carson Bell
don't resell shit, you will lose money in the end
hdds are fine as long as you get a smol ssd as a scratch disk
Logan Russell
Best place to buy used GPU's? Craigslist and Ebay I assume?
Matthew Rodriguez
I guess we'll just have to see where it lands between those two cards. If by some miracle it's anywhere near 5% from the 2080 then it's not a bad deal, since that damn thing costs over €800 here and I think the anniversary card is going to be about €650.
We'll see what the super does to the pricing. I'm always a bit skeptical about any price cuts appearing. Wouldn't be surprised if retailers are simply going to pocket the difference and nothing changes.
Luke Ramirez
the anniversary 2600x wasn't even binned why would 5700xt be?
And the wafers cost TWICE AS MUCH. ARE YOU RETARDED? Compute is only slightly lower than Vega 56, yet gaming perf is higher.
craigslist if you can verify it works on purpose. Ebay sellers get scammed so much by buyers that you can't get good prices there.
It's probably like 3-5% above the XT, which itself is just like 9-10% on above above the 2070 from what they showed. AMD benchmark results are usually accurate and duplicated by independant reviewers, but their own results don't show it extremely ahead. So it probably is what they showed.
2080 is what, like 25% ahead of the 2070, right? So even if the anniversary addition is 15% ahead of the 2070, that's still 10% behind a 2080. And it's not like you can't clock the 2070 higher than stock as well... you can OC it to around 11% behind the 2080, in fact.
I think it's going to wind up, price:perf and cards worth buying wise, something like 570 > 580 > vega 56 > 5700 > 1660ti > 1660, once the dust has settled. And like the other user said, don't forget about Super. Maybe if Super brings XT price down by $50, it'll be a good buy. >I'm always a bit skeptical about any price cuts appearing As you should be. There's been loads of those rumors, and they've all been right. What's been right is that Nvidia and AMD investors want higher margins. What's been right is that they have historically down sales on LAST GENERATION, PRIOR TO the launch of new cards in order to clear inventory and justify those prices.
Did they show TDP for the Anniversary addition? If it's not significantly higher than 220W, then it is binned. It did seem to have same cooler, so it's either loud as shit or it's binned.
Jacob Davis
Alright, thanks
Ayden Ramirez
>And the wafers cost TWICE AS MUCH You don't need me to debate with you if you just want to defeat strawmen. Stop doing that.
Oliver Parker
NAVI is DOA >Same price as the 2070 with 5% more performance >No RT cores >No tensor cores >Nvidia will cut prices literally tomorrow Only a retard would buy that thing. Ryzen looks really good tho.
Ryder Brooks
>RX 5700 $379 >RX 5700 XT $449 Holy FUCK AMD is massive GPU retard. The 5700 price barely makes sense since you spend $30 more than a 2060 to get more VRAM, but no way will the 5700 XT beat the 2070 in sales.
Dominic Mitchell
It wouldn't beat it in sales even as a $200 GPU.
James Gonzalez
Just like the Vega (56, 64, and VII) and Fury lineups were. AMD really isn't even trying at the high end (or they can't deliver), and they don't even have anything new announced for 1080p. Sad, I really want to buy a 5700
Connor Anderson
>The 5700 price barely makes sense since you spend $30 more than a 2060 to get more VRAM More VRAM is a meme, and quiet, single fan 2060s are selling for 310USD
Benjamin Sanchez
1300$ Gaming Not looking for a monitor atm
Ryan Reed
>NAVI is DOA >Ryzen looks really good tho. imajen being this retarded
both are DOA obsolete garbage I can get a more powerful cpu than a 3950x right now, it's called a 9900k
RTX 2060 Super will have 8GB and be priced at $349 or slightly higher, the latter case meaning the price will probably almost equal the RX 5700.
Adrian Diaz
VERY poor bait. Not even worth attaching the pic for.
Easton Anderson
Buy a Vega 56 now or Wait:tm: for 2060 super
Matthew Anderson
Don't try to assuage your buyers regret with us, son
Nathan Flores
Wait for super
Lincoln Stewart
so what did amd announce
John Wood
Vega 56 might go out of stock by the time 2060 super arrives. Then 2060 super ends up being $400 and you missed out on 90% the same perf for $300.
Dylan Richardson
So I'm finally upgrading this piece of crap. Planing on getting ryzen 3700x with the AROUS X470 motherboard. I'm still undecided on the GPU.
My monitor is an acer xg270hu which is freesync but also g-sync according to their website? What should i get for 2k gaming? Will i lose anything out for going nvidia? I hear Sapphire is going to have a toxic version of the RX5700, is that worth waiting out for? I could just use the R9 390 in the meantime
Not necessarily, the 3700 is a VRAM upgrade over the 2060 (although Vega 56 exists, but that will eventually get discontinued). AMD's superiority at the $300 price range will be lost once the RTX 2060 Super 8GB comes out.
Angel Diaz
5700* fuck
Kevin King
Zalman ZM750-EBT 750W or Thermaltake Smart RGB 700W ? They both cost about the same around here, zalman is slightly cheaper.
Nolan Mitchell
hey. I have a case use for the VII. I have always wanted to stream and the VII + the 12core part looks like a very budget friendly streaming machine.
Nolan Foster
RTX 2070
Jayden Hall
Quick question, how am I suppose to get the RAM to clock to 3200? It's sitting at 2133MHz right now and refuses to go any higher. I looked up the compatible RAM list for the R7 1800X and it should be clocking up to 3200 no problem, but it's not and no matter what I change in the settings, it won't go any higher.
Anyone know what I'm suppose to do? Google ain't helping either.`
Wait for third party benchmarks, but probably not.
Logan Ramirez
What is the "Allow 4G decoding" setting in my motherboard? Something about 64-bit pcie devices? Should I activated it? Newer GPUs are 64-bit capable devices,right?
Nathaniel Watson
9700k still beats 3700x/3800x lol. Also consoles are 1,5 years away by then amd will be forgotten again.
Ryder King
A better vega56/2070 and their 16 core. They also showed that their 12 core can do highest quality preset encoding at 1440p.
Why reply to the obvious troll? Anyone who thinks the 2060 is a good buy is obviously trolling. May as well recommend the 560 or 2080 or other awful GPUs like those. It's just bait.
You should never preorder GPUs. They never have limited stock. You can wait for reviews. The cheaper one, RX 5700, seems like it could be okay. Faster than 2060, seemingly identical perf/watt, 8GB of VRAM, for only $30 more.
I'd wait for Super. Navi would be really good if they were actually the same/better perf/$ as Vega56 at $300 currently is.
>Anyone who thinks the 2060 is a good buy is obviously trolling More like anyone who refuses to consider the 2060 is obviously a trolling retard, retard
Trolling outside of /b/ is against the rules.
Jacob Morris
bump
Aaron Martin
So turns out, there isn't a direct "XMP" setting. It's built in to the Ai overclock thing under the third option, the one option I never checked. lmao.
Matthew Cook
Buy zen2 guys. Don't forget to pair it with 5133Mhz ram to match the stock intel.
So 5700 series are shit. What we know about so far RTX super? because man that im not waiting another 2 years for a GPU upgrade.
Easton James
I don't give much of a shit about the 2070 and higher Supers. They will perform slightly better, but they're already priced hella high. The 2060 Super is the interesting one, which will come with 8GB of VRAM instead of 6GB and shouldn't be priced that much higher than the current 2060's MSRP.
Henry Wilson
They're your basic 1440p cards Another Massive Disappointment in terms of pricing
