>be me >download latest OpenBSD snapshot >put it on a flash drive >installation is super easy, partitioning is a bit frustrating though >the installer sets up wifi and X11 for you >boot into it >download all the usual stuff (firefox, gcc, gdb, vim) >the package manager is super comfy, it even has packages that I couldn't find in most Linux distros >most packages are patched to use specific OpenBSD security features like pledge(2) and unveil(2) >sound works perfectly without having to deal with ALSA and Pulseaudio cancer >the pf firewall works perfectly >configured doas using one line of configuration instead of 200 lines of unreadable sudoers mess >the man pages are fucking good >everything just fucking werks and it literally takes less than 70M MBs of RAM >i'm now enjoying a secure, simple, bloat-free OS
Why haven't you taken the OpenBSD pill, Jow Forums?
I'm using a Lenovo laptop, but it's not a Thinkpad unfortunately.
Ayden Thomas
Okey, well of its working Did you get performance issue? What about battery life?
Parker Ross
I stopped using it because of noticeable input delay on X11.
Jace Anderson
Battery life is fine, make sure that you enable apmd though. Performance is slower than Linux, that's because of all the security features that OpenBSD implements. Give this guide a read: c0ffee.net/blog/openbsd-on-a-laptop/
Connor Green
Have you tried using another window manager?
Robert Gonzalez
>BSD shills are discord trannies >discord trannies are paid by corporations to shill cuck licences like BSD >the cabal wants the GPL to die so they can steal your work, close it and contribute nothing >they are probably employed by soros open foundation
Nathaniel Jackson
i3 and cwm, both had the same issue.
Jason Phillips
I wish that someone would employ me to shill for BSD.
Adrian Hernandez
Nobody steals your work that is permissive license, you commie. They can use it, it still remains BSD/MIT. >someone makes money on my code. that is bad Google and Amazon rake in billions on using gratis Linux on servers. Is it bad?
unbound > dnscrypt-proxy (bloated go garbage) And it does (on latest release) dns-on-tls and all that, too.
Hunter Taylor
>BSD shills are discord trannies FreeBSD != OpenBSD, fren.
Josiah Allen
This.
Christian Adams
Aside from the performance hits, Openbsd is great. Most people who actually edit config files instead of just importing them would find the os very comfy. No networkmanager to deal with, just a simple config file, sound always just works, etc.
Daniel Young
Because I don't want to support permissive licensing.
Kayden Adams
output of $ vainfo plz
Evan Clark
Any chance you were running it in VM?
Jonathan Brown
How does it work for sound production? Does it support the Scarlett 2i2?
How about vidya? I run Proton almost all the time, how's compatibility?
Parker Smith
>sound production
I don't know much about sound production, hopefully someone else can answer this question. >Proton Proton doesn't work on OpenBSD because Wine and Steam don't work on OpenBSD.
My recommendation is that you dual boot OpenBSD and Linux, and use Linux for stuff that don't work in OpenBSD (or you can put OpenBSD in a virtual machine to try it out).
Christian Williams
Honestly at that point it sounds easiest to just run Qubes or get a XenVM set-up going.
Jayden Price
OpenBSD and Qubes are completely different things: Qubes focuses on separation between processes through virtual machines, OpenBSD focuses on hardening the Operating System itself instead.
Qubes still carries the inherent complexity and flaws of Linux, while OpenBSD focuses on simplicity instead.
Qubes is really heavy, OpenBSD is light and requires an extremely small amount of RAM.
OpenBSD did a lot of innovations in the security field and maintains their own versions of many things (like their own C library, LibreSSL, OpenSMTPD, OpenSSH), Qubes didn't invent anything and uses components from other projects instead.
Jayden Evans
I remember everyone laughing on OpenBSD for disabling Hyperthreading... Who laughs now fuckfags?
Camden Howard
Which I appreciate, but fail to see the practical benefit for the everyday tasks I perform. If I were running a task-critical server, sure, OpenBSD all the way.
But for daily use? I find it difficult to justify the switch.
Jeremiah Collins
Use whatever that you're comfortable with, but personally, I see OpenBSD as a perfectly suitable operating system for every day tasks (browsing, programming and stuff like that).
Charles Morgan
Puffer fish boat to scare the normies
Jack Kelly
For daily use, just use Debian as a hypervisor and use KVM to run whatever virtual machines you want. Share a folder between the host and the VMs so you can transfer files. Then you have all the benefits of cubes, yet with minimal resource usage.
>Why haven't you taken the OpenBSD pill, Jow Forums? I'm not a Canadian and FreeBSD works great on my Mac VM.
Andrew Gonzalez
To be fair, FreeBSD is good too, but it's not suited for desktop usage like OpenBSD.
William Reed
disgust inducing pic
Jonathan Hall
I'm going to install it on my server and probably desktop soon. Their httpd is gold, the config for a web server with TLS is like 10 lines. I'm going to put wireguard on port 80 and I will be hidden under my own private network with top speed. TOP COMFY
it's ironic how the only good parts of OpenBDSM are used on more competent OSes anyway. Why use OpenBSD when Gentoo Hardened with LibreSSL and OpenRC exists if you care that much about security
Xavier Watson
Security's not the only reason to use OpenBSD
Samuel Howard
I like how after that sentence you enumerated the other reasons that totally exist.
Landon Johnson
I like how you assumed I had to
Landon Adams
wut
Kevin Barnes
I want to try but it feels like the switch I had when I went from Windows to Linux. The reason I can't this time isn't muh games but muh touhou. OpenBSD can't run my dumb shooty girl games. Also, who are you quoting?
>70M MBs of RAM So 70 * 1,000,000 * 1,000,000 Bytes = 70TB. No thanks. Ill jst keep using GNU+Linux.
Thomas Long
They're separate operating systems with separate goals. OpenBSD forked from NetBSD >20 years ago and they've been diverging ever since. OpenBSD's a security-oriented OS while NetBSD's focus is portability.
Benjamin Phillips
Which one is more minimalist?
Landon Thomas
Portability as in an OS you put on your laptop?
Andrew Bailey
I dunno, I've really only used OpenBSD. All I can really tell you is that NetBSD consumes a fraction of the RAM on a fresh install
No, as in an OS you can port to hardware.
Landon Barnes
As in "will run on anything from Quantm Compter to Toothbrush"
Tyler Adams
That sounds like something I'm interested in.
Generally speaking, what's the community and "difficulty spike" like of *BSD-systems? Are there book one is supposed to read, tutorials to follow? It uses the Unix-Shell right? Sorry for the idiot questions.
Neither openbsd, nor freebsd, nor trueos, nor trident configure xorg/desktop GUI by default. HOW the fuck do I get a fully functioning bsd distro? And how do I get nvidia drivers?
Jack Russell
If you're using a BSD and need to research a problem online, you'll find the most results/users for FreeBSD, a reasonable amount for OpenBSD, and very little for NetBSD.
Blake Perry
NetBSD has been successfully installed on a toaster.
Charles Hernandez
What are you talking about? OpenBSD comes with Xorg by default, and you can install Xorg on other BSDs just fine.
Justin Jackson
NetBSD is generally smaller and more minimalist than openbsd.
Camden King
Is this possible in nature?
Jack Fisher
Can you help me out buddy, these weird installation files .FS can't be mounted on my USB.
Jayden Roberts
Doesn't support all the software I want to run
Luke Russell
Why is Puffy so cute and adorable?
Anthony Ross
Dude you are not ready for this, turn up your sound haha
I'm new not even used to linux, i might try this shit tho good logo btw
Easton Ramirez
Both freebsd and dragonflybsd are bloated trash.
Andrew Young
I recommend using FreeBSD if you have an Nvidia card, because it's the only BSD that has official Nvidia support.
Cooper Rodriguez
I prefer to burn the .iso to a DVD or USB
Nathan Reed
No way to hack it into openbsd? What about amd adn intel?
Leo Perez
Use the information superhighway to search for how to install xfce on OpenBSD
Charles Lewis
Uhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm does openbsd not have gnome?
Joshua Martinez
Intel integrated graphics cards work perfectly on OpenBSD, as for AMD, it depends.
Justin Turner
Bloated with what? Essential features that autist OpenBSD users don't have due "muh security"? FreeBSD' ports/package management is a fucking god given and doesn't even compare with Linux distros.
Adrian Ward
You can install Gnome on OpenBSD.
Josiah Price
!ALERT! BSD confirmed garbage !ALERT!
Carter Rodriguez
"Old Men" Warning! Warning!
Thomas Gomez
pf IS great user.
Caleb Hill
NetBSD minimal installation is 4MB of RAM with 40 MB of disk space. The most minimalist and bloat free BSD.
Christian Myers
Because it doesn't support my hardware. I might give it a try after I get my x200 back.
Owen Davis
Will OpenBSD run on a i5-8250U with integrated graphics? Also what wifi cards are expected to work?
David Reyes
At what cost? Phoronix benchmarks show it turns i7 into i3 cpu
I'm going to install this on a VM you had better not be lying to me Jow Forums
Jaxson Hernandez
OS's can't drive (yet)
Josiah Foster
or get an amd card. better than intel
Nolan Stewart
>Dragonfly >bloated You got anything to back that up?
Connor Rivera
Dumb openbsd question incoming. How do I set locale so as when I do xdg-user-dirs-update I have the folders named in my language? I did locale -a so I know my language is supported
Matthew Richardson
Is it true you can't have audio OTB on this OS, nor TRIM/journaling if you wish to install it in an SSD?
