How does it feel to be a commodity?

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20161456

>As things currently stand, programming has become a commodity skill that anyone with a room temperature IQ can learn within a reasonably small time frame. Then, you get on StackExchange and start cobbling together your app from copypasta provided by other programmers.
>Things have been dumbed down considerably.

Related, how to not be a commodity? Domain knowledge?

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People have said this about every profession ever

being a commodity is only part of the story, the bigger picture is the fact that the world is incredibly competitive now and edges are increasingly difficult to come by

Be good at it, retard.

journos are so fucking braindead it should be criminal to allow these people on your platform

>I can't learn to code
>so I'll ruin its reputation

fucking retards

>commodity skill
So wrong it hurts. A good developer is an engineer who can take an idea and fully (and I mean FULLY) flesh it out. Being able to do this under reasonable time constraints while making something maintainable requires years of experience and an analytical mind.

the cheap bait gets cheap fish, try harder.

how do you explain all the coder girls and learn to code memecademy bullshit.

1. Have a high IQ.

Wrong.
1. Be willing to put in actual hard work

Prostitutes have the highest iq profession confirmed.

as long as people keep hiring people like this, people will have to keep hiring people like me to clean up their mess

and that's a good thing™

most businesses don't really much care if its maintainable though, they pretty much expect to either just run it indefinitely with minimal changes, or that they'll junk it and start over five years from now anyway.

but that's always been the case, friend. it's been the case since the 1980s, when computer programming was adopted by physical scientists as a whole. as a physicist or mathematician, you have other things to worry about than learning the programming language as a mathematical system: simply having a capability for algorithmic thinking is enough for maybe 80% of cases.

naturally, it got worse from there: programming became divorced from the foundations that it was built on from the minute usability became a priority. that's not always a bad thing, i guess.
what you should do is learn programming alongside a technical specialisation. computational mathematics, data science, artificial intelligence, optimisation, graphics, whatever. any idiot can program now, but not everybody has the patience or mental discipline to learn the advanced mathematics and theory for actual intellectual work.

Bad programmers are a dime a dozen.

This is very accurate desu

what are you even talking about? did you remember to take your medicine today?

it was really worth learning x86 and ARM assembly.............

What needs to be explained about that?
It's pure cancer

0. git gud

if a good developer does that then a good developer will start his own company and hire commodity coders

just like google/snapchat/etc have been doing

it pretty much is, just wait now for apple to release their declarative UI toolkit, every fucking idiot will be able to write apps

You must hate books as well.
Can you believe that people with a room temperature IQ can learn and attempt to do things, and they they may not be as good as other people who specialize in it!
God, it's like e v e r y t h i n g has become more accessible and therefore a "commodity" these days.
Retard.

yes, but it is on you to convince the customer to pay you instead of a retard who claims he can do the same for 1/3 of the price.

it is competition.

>As things currently stand, programming has become a commodity skill that anyone with a room temperature IQ can learn within a reasonably small time frame. Then, you get on StackExchange and start cobbling together your app from copypasta provided by other programmers.

Replace "programming" with "koding" and "programmers" with "koders" in this and they are right. Keep it that way and they are dead wrong.

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This, being actually unique compared to your direct peers and competition is hard, and can often only be proven through labor, and even internships have competition.

>have mediocre IQ and GPA
>be lazy
>be a woman
>have friends in the company
>get hired on a senior position
>do fuckall relegating the tasks to all the 'commodity coders'

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code monkeys are cheap, engineers and entrepreneurs aren't - what's new about this exactly?

That's what they want you to believe(to pay you less obviously) but the fact remains that very few people have the necessary mindset to write programs. You can teach a monkey alphabet but it won't become Shakespeare.

Find a single source saying this about engineering, the most based and redpilled profession. Most normies can't even grasp what we do.

I would guess that the "commodity coders" are those who stick to discussing (in the loosest sense of the word) their code and their craft on Instagram and Twitter. I'd think there's a higher proportion of "good/committed" programmers on this board.

Specialize in something I guess?

what about sex bots?
you'll buy one and never have to touch a prostitute ever again.

I am learning web dev and it’s kinda true. Fuck I just hope I can become decent at it in less than 6 months so I can get a job within that. Another 6 months at ikea and will literally kill my self.

>basedboy and roastie web journos still mad at programmers for having some semblance of job security

Learn assembly, C, operating system/kernel design and some proper compsci. Sadly, it won't make you employable, but you definitely won't be a commodity. In fact, you'll be one of the last beacons of hope outside a sea of street-shitting JS devs.

No way. That takes business sense, which often even the best engineers lack. You have to be a sociopath; able to think exactly like a normie, but not being held back by any moral considerations.

And have sex with "friends"

>Sadly, it won't make you employable
Why? t. my strongest skills are what you listed.

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I'm in the same position. Finally have good learning habits after a few years on and off of attempting to learn web dev; finally making some progress. Even if I become a commodity coder, I don't care. I want out of my cancer-tier job. I hope we both make it. Good luck user.

This annon gets it, anyone can throw together a bundle of JS and make some eyecandy, and for most cases that's enough, but the real meat of the profession lies here

She needs to join our startup, let's invite her

20 IQ is very low.

Great, but who the fuck would hire you for any of those specializations without an advanced degree? Do you understand how competitive it is at the PhD level even? Moreover, if you get stuck with a shit research project for your PhD, you are beyond shit out of luck.