ATTENTION: The Navi RX 5700XT and RX 5700 will launch alongside Ryzen 3000 series CPUs with PCIe 4.0 on 7/7/2019. Nvidia is rumored to be releasing a SUPER series that will reportedly see 20 series cards upgraded to one higher card tier: e.g., the 2060 SUPER will perform like a 2070 at the old 2060's price point. More info on the SUPER series possible on 6/21.
Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >i7 8700 or 9700K - Extreme solution for absolute max FPS >R7 2700/X - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard >RTX 2060 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 1440p >RTX 2060 - standard >RTX 2080 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 - standard >RTX 2080Ti - better fit for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's 144Hz with adaptive sync >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
Levi Ramirez
How many inches is too much for 1440p
Daniel Bennett
How far away are you sitting from it and do you want to stop at the soft limit of increased perception of realness or at the harder limit?
Andrew Butler
Bit more then a foot and a soft limit is fine
Ayden Hughes
Not the other user, but 24" or 27" max
Isaac Turner
4K build: Is Ryzen 3 (gen 1) enough? Seems so. I am eyeing a first gen thread ripper for $250, are these still good good vs upcoming gen 3? I’m patient so I can wait. Thinking Radeon VII because value performance.
However, at this point I also am somewhat interested in going for the eco-friendly route with lower power consumption.
Id be willing to buy a new mobo and case since mine is hot and micro size. I bought a house and moved out of an APT so I can go Big now.
Please advise and please no ray tracing tesselator Vulcan marketing shit. Also please make your response more nuanced than ‘VII IS SHIT, NVIDIA ARE JEWS’.
Data, long term usability, energy draw, applications are far more useful.
Right now eying RVII and threadripper gen 1 12 core or an intel/Nvidia build if i can get one that runs cool and somewhat low power consumption.
4k you're going to be 100% GPU bound. Radeon 7 is good considering especially the vram but the 2080ti is the better card for 4k. TR is good especially with 1st gen getting huge price cuts but even with the grain of salt from leaked benchmarks the 3950x is going to be far better than TR and all of intel's HEDT cpus. But again for 4k gaming any current gen CPU should do fine
Samuel Roberts
1st gen TR is terrible at gaming and you have to buy an expensive mobo. Read OP regarding new product launches, check builds in OP for a baseline
Joseph Hall
Redpill me on monitors. I need to buy a new one. Everything seems catered to videogaymers
Justin Brown
>AMD's Vulkan AMD wow ur so knowledgable aren't you stfu adults are talking
Main use of it is if you wanted to have 3 (or more?) full speed NVMeme drives. Which only really has use for video editing, or running TONs of VMs (which a 16 core could do). There may be some scientific cases where the bandwidth is useful for a GPU as well, just not for games.
Why the fuck are you spoiling your brother so much? He doesn't need that shit Get him a 2400G build with a pink case. But sure, that's a solid build as long as the 2060 Super winds up being 8GB of VRAM like the rumors suggest.
CUs are so massively improved in Navi, that it'll likely do ray tracing better than the 2060 does despite not having a dedicated accelerator. lmao.
Why would you buy gigabyte 400 series boards?
No. Zen2 on AM4 is much better unless you actually need quad channel memory (which you don't).
Cooper Clark
I'm a retard. What's the best way to transfer my 2.5TB of anime from my current build to my new one. Can I just take my 3TB HDD out and swap it into the new one if it isn't my C: drive?
>Why would you buy gigabyte 400 series boards? Why not?
Joshua Torres
2 jews compete for your money. 1440 144 hz. Or 4K 60hz.
My thoughts.
I can’t see 144hz vs 60 FPS but it’s cheaper and easier to achieve.
4K I can definately see what it does but its kind of gay because everything is tiny AF. Also not every game even supports 4K interfaces. Lastly graphics cards seem to be 5 years from doing a good job at 4K 60fps ultra settings and if you spend $1000 on the card you’re still not ‘there’. I’ve given up 4K to revert to 1440 for some games and it’s hard. It’s like the jump from 1080 to 480. Blurry and gay looking.
But if you haven’t seen it, you don’t necessarily know what your missing
Benjamin Jenkins
dilate
Joseph Gutierrez
Thank you.
Brody Mitchell
>CUs are so massively improved in Navi, that it'll likely do ray tracing better than the 2060 does I want whatever you're smoking. Navi won't do raytracing well until it gets the accelerator that the new consoles will have
David King
So what am I supposed to do when Win7 support ends and I still want to play games? I have to use 10 at work and I hate it, security shit aside.
Linux and spend hours learning how to play music or use a controller
Luis Smith
Anyone own an MSI MAG24C or other similar 144Hz VA monitors by MSI? I'm thinking of getting one because of how cheap they are.
Ryder Campbell
Adding onto this, you can't downscale to 1440 on a 4k monitor as an even division. 1440 will always look better on a 1440 monitor than on a 4k monitor, so if you're not driving 4k content to it, it's an even worse experience.
Give me dat 1440@60hz
Luis Thompson
Also, I don’t ever overcloxk. Please recommend a processor for me thanks
so did they release any information on the super cards?
Owen Hughes
More powerful than release versions, probably the same MSRP. Production on older version stopping. Stupid fucking naming scheme.
Juan Diaz
any release date or just usual soon garbage
Samuel Sullivan
after some research, it seems the a320 chipsets will support the Ryzen 3000 series apus, should I buy a ryzen 3 or ryzen 5?
Colton Campbell
Soon (TM)
But rumored for June/July
Bentley Howard
friend wants a build for light gaming but mostly graphic design work, and preferably all parts on amazon/newegg, I was going with the list from the OP here pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/zqYr7P but it's really late and my mind is fried from travelling budget is 1k, but since they'll have to buy a monitor keyboard and mouse along with other accessories (they're coming from using a mac for years) I'd try to keep it a little bit lower than that thanks in advance /pcbg/
Nathan Clark
please reply i need to know whether to buy this
Adam Green
If you're not gaming, 4K 60Hz VA @ 27"
Athlons and R3s are basic desktop usage R5s and R7s are gaming or video editing R9s are streaming or video editings TR is for professionals, often those working with VMs and many devices
Likely that some mobo manufacturers will include support in their BIOS
Hi /v/ can you help? I cannot into computers. Will I need to upgrade for Cyberpunk 2077? >cpu: i5 7600, videocard: gigabyte 2GB GTX 1050, mobo: Asus H270 I know its not out until April and requirements haven't even been announced, just worrying. Will compatible parts be available?
No you can't, at least none are listed on pcpartpicker for even close to that price
Yes, graphics card for sure, likely CPU as well. You can get an i7 7700 used, but it might be cheaper to just upgrade the whole platform to AM4. Obviously don't buy anything now
Robert Gutierrez
>If you're not gaming, 4K 60Hz VA @ 27"
I'm not made of money
Juan Reed
Yeah I figure that, guess I was a bit too budget conscious when I built end of 2017
Camden Wilson
Where at?
Jose Howard
The cpu ain't that bad unless you want 144hz. Just wait for Nvidia Super to upgrade. It'll probably be better than what Amd has to offer
Juan Stewart
4K can be really cheap if you want it to be 43” 4K 60Hz, $218 at your local Walmart
Grayson Myers
if the cpu needs to to go as well - I've heard speculation of the game needing 3.7+ghz - what would be compatible with the mobo?
Jack Reed
Whatever it is as long as it's IPS or OLED Once you go with deep blacks, you never want to go back unless the monitor is absolutely huge (like 50") then anything above 1080p is a meme and if you want more vidya grafx then just turn up the in-game rendering/DSR factor setting 144Hz is a plus but how often do you even play games at those framerates?
>I've heard speculation of the game needing 3.7+ghz Unfounded, anyway as I said the i7 7700
Probably better, but it's not a fair comparison considering Tensor cores
Check on ssd.userbenchmark
Crying in his mother's basement over the Super lineup
Benjamin Collins
I prefer high framerate 144hz. Why settle for anything less? It will essentially be a bottleneck in that you wont feel that buttery smoothness depending on your specs and use case
Daniel Carter
9400f or 9600k for 2k gaming?
Adam Carter
Does anyone know when we will start to see pricing on x570 boards? I kind of want to have a general idea what I'm going to be spending before 7/7.
Matthew Russell
If you intent to OC in the future, get the 9600k, if not get the 9400F.
Josiah Powell
We already know. They are priced between $100 being the absolute shit tier and $1000
Ethan Powell
>update 1903 does not enable the new scheduler without the updated Ryzen chipset drivers that AMD will release upon Ryzen 3's launch Didn't even watch it, did you?
Your entire build is really really bad. You'd need to redo it all. Well you could keep the RAM and OC it I guess
Did you even watch the video? It's coming in a chipset update which also requires update 1903.
Christian Mitchell
Hello, /vr/ crossposter here. I am putting the pieces of my retro Windows 7 time machine build together tonight, but I have hit a snag. Should I get a Asus Xonar SE sound card or is the onboard audio good enough? I intend to do some audio recording.
I have not assembled a computer since the old Athlon days when AMD was pretty good and not shameful to have. Any other suggestions welcome for audio for this build?
Neither. Why would you buy intel in 2019? There's a reason you have blatant shills in /pcbg/ spamming stuff directly out from imgur.com/a/xh2ny to try to get you to buy Intel even though it's trash now. Buying a 9600k in 2019 is like paying $250 for a 6300 in 2012, except they didn't even cost that much.
Xavier Rivera
Oh yeah I forgot, there's always something more to wait for until you are proven wrong again.
Xavier Watson
So no, you didn't. Nice job.
Gavin Collins
Wait for Zen2. The onboard memory is likely better than that card, as the audio chipset is directly on the SoC for the lowest possible latency. Likely the only thing better would be a DAC. And do you really need over 32GB of RAM?
Wow, you're really upset that your Intel CPU keeps getting worse while Ryzen keeps improving even for people who bought it all the way back in 2017. I guess I'd be upset and have buyers remorse in your position, too, but I wouldn't project and take it out on others.
Anthony Green
But intel still best chosen for gaming.
Matthew Morris
>wait for the bios update bro You have been posting fake benchmarks straight from reddit for days now claiming you get increased performance retard.
Jose Richardson
again, how many games do you actually play at 144+ FPS anyway? I can think of maybe three
Isaac Evans
No
Henry Jackson
>blatant shills in /pcbg/ spamming stuff directly out from imgur.com/a/xh2ny No one does this, little retard. False claims discredit your cause (marketing for AMD)
I wished I waited, but some of the purchases were made long ago. I was mainly interested in the Asus Xonar SE card because I heard it does not have much noise in recording audio and I remembered back in my day a sound card was essential in a build. As for the RAM, I did intend to just have 32GB on 2 sticks, but back in my day it was better to have 2 sticks due to dual channel memory than one large stick, and the processor motherboard I already had seems to be a quad channel memory thing, so I ended up getting more sticks of RAM.
Oh, you already bought that board and CPU when Zen2 was just around the corner? That sucks.
Kayden Sanchez
Not him but didn't AMD's own graph show Intel still had the lead? I mean its like a 2% lead, but its still a lead.
Leo Reyes
Win some, lose some, equal in others. I'd say its more like equal in games, we need to see more numbers, 0.1%s etc.
Jayden Diaz
Pre Windows updates pre security updates. I find it funny how people are underplaying the fact that Intel's retarded security fixes require you to disable HALF THE FUCKING THREADS. Why the fuck are you cunts still defending this dick sucking company? They stagnated the CPU market for years after breaking the law multiple fucking times and you stupid cunts are still defending them after years of fuck ups and shitting on consumers. Just shut the fuck up
Jayden Morales
Was about the same, but that was without the new scheduler update and without enabling security fixes on Intel which lowers Intel performance/
AMD was sand bagging so the independent reviews look even more positive for them and crushing for Intel.
And even if they were simply even, X570 is a better platform, and Zen2 is far cooler and lower power.
>3950x and 2080 ti super overclocked on custom loops
Michael Cook
Hey guys. Just build my first gaming comp. My CPU is running hot af, but I'm not sure if my Speccy readings are correct. Am I reading this correctly, are the AMD and Speccy reports coming up with different temps? I've changed the thermal paste from the stock on the heatsink, but the temp never changed. Any suggestions?
Really. Which do you think is most likely to be correct, the official tool or the abandonware?
Michael Lewis
Will I be able to run a 3900x with a MSI B450m Mortar? It'll be at stock only, no OC.
Christopher Turner
Maybe, with airflow on the VRM.
Jackson Robinson
COPE
Lincoln Allen
Honestly I was just asking a simple question. Never had problems with Speccy on my old comp. But again I'm reading that 90C on the right, of PTC, that's a fine temp there? 200F seems a bit toasty for a CPU.
Bentley Jones
PTC is just showing you the temp limit where it shuts down.
Xavier Harris
It's almost time guys, the waiting finally paid off. Say what you want about Intel, but the 2600k was a damn fine processor. This little guy lasted me years, bought it back in 2011 and it's still putting up a fight to this day. I haven't owned a AMD chip since the Athlon 64 days, looking forward to upgrading.
So, since Navi turned out to be shit, will the 1660ti last me a couple years at 1080p?
Dominic Taylor
Thank you bud I appreciate you!
Lucas Barnes
Some weirdo wants to trade an i7 8700k for my 2500k, I don't know why, but it's a good deal I think.
What's a good motherboard to get?
Adam Barnes
had a 2600 how much I wish it had lasted a year more memory wise you may be meme'd upon but yes, 5y ezpz
Leo James
>memory wise you may be meme'd upon but yes, 5y ezpz Not him but what if I only wanna play wow classic at 1440p 144hz, it should make it because toaster game right?
