Why do some of you go so far out of your ways to keep your anonymity? I understand not wanting your privacy invaded...

Not him, but what's your argument?

Do you poop with the door open with guests over? Why not?

Not OP but yes, I do.

I don't want to be fucked over (potentially) in the future because I said mean things on the internet. I long for the days where there was no 2FA on everything and posting anonymity was the norm.

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Why bother having a door at all?

Never give out your name/address to anything other than to tie it to physical needs. Even when you get it for shipping, use pseudo names.

Never have social networking account. Never use social networks. Never use the same username twice. Never tie the username to your name/location/age. Public emails should never have your name, business related emails should only have initials and something occupation/work related wording.

This kills 99.9% of the privacy issues bourne from internet. The other 0.1% is up to the use of specific VPN for downloading potentially contested torrents.

What's loli porn

But this shit analogy is with someone you know.
I have no problem giving out porn fetishes to a random man from the streets.

I mean lewd drawings of lolis

>Your girlfriend?
I wouldn't mind

>Why does it matter if google and amazon tailor make the ads you see?
I don't see ads though

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>I have no problem giving out porn fetishes to a random man from the streets, who for all I know could then give that information to everyone I know
Ok, solid plan. You go do that, and I'm going to keep my private information private.

>>Why does it matter if google and amazon tailor make the ads you see?
Why is it acceptable for them to show ads to me at all? Ads are companies trying to distract you from what you're doing and then, once they have your attention, deceive you into spending money that you otherwise wouldn't. Advertisers are out to scam you. Why would I let them spy on me to make their fraud more effective?

Cause you use their services then they should get something in return?
Do I have to explain to a retard how goods and services work?

>I have no problem giving out porn fetishes to a random man from the streets.
You got a lot of other problems then, mate.

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Does it give you an erection?

As an alpha male I sometimes struggle to comprehend how some of you idiots resort to trivial shit like hentai to stimulate the l pleasure centers of your little brains.

By having me read your post, you've agreed to pay me $400 per character to compensate me for my time. Please delete your post and refrain from posting again if you would like to opt out.

More like I couldn't care less what he does with that information and you shouldn't either.

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Great news, I don't care about your opinion so you shouldn't either. Weird how you're not allowed to care about your own opinions anymore after my rock-solid argument, huh?

I gave up on online anonymity over a decade ago. It takes ten seconds to find my real name and where I work on Google using the username I use everywhere, and vice versa. It's not that I don't have anything to hide, I just don't give a fuck anymore. What happens, happens.
I don't recommend that everyone does this.

>Does it give you an erection?
Yes. A diamond one.
Now fuck off, idiot newfag. This isn't the website for you.

It's not like you have a choice anymore, anyway. Trying to go anonymous after getting in the system is like trying to put all the toothpaste you've ever used back in its tube.

should is a complex word. I'll let you figure it out

Whats that?

You seem to miss the point, it's not about giving out your information anymore, it's about you being a weirdo. If you're just being autistic for the sake of it, you're sure on the right board, but this discussion will lead to nowhere for you.

Oh wow, you actually didn't understand a single word I typed, did you? Unsurprising that you had to ask me to do the thinking for you. Here, let me spell this out real slow-like so you can keep up. Ready?
Because... I... say... you... (Still with me, champ?) shouldn't... isn't... (Almost there, you can do it!) an... argument (Great job, you made it to the end! Now put it all together)

Yeah, the intention is kinda noble in a way, but you know it's a losing battle.

You should be hospitalized for your own good and the people around you.

Dumbass son of a cheap harlot! Man up!

it is the power to manipulate that concerns me.
to monopolize information.
abuse to stay in power and kill.
profiles, blacklisting, gatekeeping, harassement, identity theft, rumors that are false, out of context or spins.

absent scenarios. you have no idea of.

>not enjoying some good loli

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I like how the slide to unlock go across the panties

>iOS
the wallpaper isn't the problem you absolute faggot

imagine being stupid enough to look at cp on an apple device. you're fucked

projection and ignorance.
think that they are right and other people are sick in the head. knife omg he about to stab others. gun omg he about to shoot em up. loli omg he pedo. anime omg he jerks or wants to objectify women. video games are reason for violence. i am about to scam this guy omg others are sick and try to scam.

marketing/news/events are manipulation. super hero movies ignore non violent solutions. everyone makes mistakes when it becomes malicious you should not never trust them anymore. make them wither. use scientific method. decentralize information/power. dont fight among each other find the pupeteer.

>nothing to hide nothing to fear
nice bait, but I'll answer.
>Windows is the only sane OS
Windows is a piece of crap to do certain things on, like actually working. Unless you are still in school or have some basedboy job like excel monkey, Windows is a turd.
>just use Chrome, goy
Firefox waa better already, looking at W3C. Now they have the advantage of ad-block. Even Chromium forks still have them, so fuck Chrome/ium.
>VPNs are for criminals
only point where legality is a good point. In some countries, it's illegal to even copy files, and bittorrent clients also share them for you automatically. If detected automatically, you could even get a fine for torrenting Ubuntu or sonething stupid.

>shouldnt never
double negative sorry made a mistake meant negative not positive. stop trusting by who cried wolf.

There's no CP in that image

>loli
>cp

Wanting privacy sounds like a basic fucking need. Feel free to prove it wrong and post your search history here. And basically all of your data you give out online. Shit, let's make it easy mode: Feel free to skip on financial info.

It's not like you mind who knows how many Amazon and Google employees know, to say nothing about their business partners and in case of leaks or hacks, everyone else who is interested.

You need a bit more time to understand that word. Don't worry champ, I believe in you. But if you must; I said shouldn't like a mother says shouldn't. Just cause you shouldn't doesn't mean you can't be retarded all you want. Go for it, rebel the system.

Their bottom line depends on being seen as pro privacy. And a company caring about their bottom line is the most reliable thing in the world.

>how many Amazon and Google employees know
to be fair, from what I know of the industry the individual employees are too busy being overworked to care about looking at people's data
it's just lots of numbers that if you poke in the right way increase revenue by 0.01%

Aren't the bottom tier guys who work for contractors the overworked ones? Besides sure, generally they wouldn't care even if there was nothing to do but who knows how many people could look into it if they wanted to just in the very best case scenario.

>it's just lots of numbers that if you poke in the right way increase revenue by 0.01%
Yeah, obviously. I'm not some tinfoil sperg about privacy; but IMO it's pretty given that it also kinda feels icky, hence minimising the footprint sounds only logical unless it goes all the way out to a point that massively impacts your comfort; which would only make sense for journalists and political activists.

comfort? inviduals are too ignorant to see the abuse. finite resources wasted. bullshit jobs. world problems just to make that 5% profit increase.

>finite resources wasted. bullshit jobs. world problems just to make that 5% profit increase.
Welcome to capitalism. Not the most relevant topic given how data mining would be of interest for any system; and is generally a great idea, when done with some anonymising steps in between to focus on the data instead of tying it to individuals.

the problem is that anonymizing doesn't work. As long as there exist any non-anonymous datasets you can correlate between them to de-anonymize people very efficiently. If you fuzz the data enough to make that not work, you also destroy your ability to make accurate conclusions from it.

I go out of my way to keep my privacy because they go out of their way to invade it.

If they just kept it to light skimming no one would've given a shit but they want to harvest as much data as they can from everywhere possible.

to manipulate people at the invidual level
to control thinking
to convince not slavery
to convince american dream
to convince problems dont exist
to convince rich deserve power
to undermine opposition
to make things dissapear
to sell anything
to give choice between bad and bad. Hide the better and say thinge are working. Harms innovation says the paid shill or useful idiot. Visibility to only people/ideas that support their narrative and positions to people who play ball like a good idiot.
to keep in bubbles
to keep violent dogs that police the nation and do it discretely out of sigth out of mind.

>to manipulate people at the invidual level
Is the only new aspect added by data mining. And it already relies on a soft target, so only makes finding the soft targets easier. Rest is business as usual that doesn't even need the Internet.

>Visibility to only people/ideas that support their narrative and positions to people who play ball like a good idiot.
>to keep in bubbles
More of an algorithm thing that doesn't even need personal data; and people do it all themselves without help either way. Take incel communities.

Beyond that, pointing out the obvious without even offering a hint of solution isn't a very productive approach. And if everyone switched to some magical privacy net tomorrow, most of the stuff wouldn't be addressed.

yes you are right.
downhill direction that is all i am saying. slippery slope.

he doesn't have one, almost satan

>you also destroy your ability to make accurate conclusions from it.
Let's take some practical example like Windows collecting amount of clicks on certain UI elements. If all the data they collect is clicks and some hardware ID the assign specifically for this task to make sure the stuff is counted correctly, where would the point of attack even be? Now if they want to also collect voice data to improve Cortana and assign another hardware ID for each word spoken. I'm not an expert but shit doesn't sound too bad if it's done without the motive to analyse the individual and steps are taken to minimise the risk of someone being able to combining it all. Though obviously it's not someone that can be done for all things.

>If you have nothing to hide, why bother?
Because I have nothing I want to show so you glowniggers can fuck off.

>Maybe I'm just being paranoid and nothing will happen, but in that case what have I lost?
this

wired.com/story/apple-differential-privacy-shortcomings/

Even in worst case scenario it looks pretty good, and if the data collector is more cooperative, the results would improve too.

Ok let him record you(your data are stored indefinitely) while you say that and then see what happens when mommy discovers through youtube your gay lolifuta fetishes.

i dont think your practical example kind of data collection is concerning. (except if exerting the power to keep dominating position. Gained from being the only good option on the market. Having user monopoly so competition cant no longer get thay data/revenue to make the service, voice, maps, ...)

this kind of data is not concerning unless used to profile then manipulate or to silence.

>except if exerting the power to keep dominating position. Gained from being the only good option on the market
Pretty good point, though guess dealing with that would be another matter either way.

>Why do some of you go so far out of your ways to keep your anonymity?
Because most of us would be in jail if we didn't.

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>granny probably lived in a time when they used to lynch fags
based

Welcome to 2019 where you can go to jail(europe) or losing a job(america) for having wrong opinion on Facebook, any data collection is concerning because it can be used against you anytime in the future.

If you think you have nothing to hide you are pretending to know more than you can about yourself, others and law, and that you have no exploitable weaknesses.

Nazis aren't popular, big deal.

goverment should be completely open. No locked doors dealings and full paper trail. Communications etc. they work for the people. Intelligence and security can be discreet but not to selected elected officials with security clearance and arrests made by the police transparent not to only few people or to commander only. No just following orders or just doing their "job". Job should be just not how it is now.

What?

>Believing that fetishes need to be private information
Okay

What other "wrong" opinions would matter?

Tons of conservatives and religious fags are into shit that'd get them lynched by their own side.

>Believing fetishism is immune to exploitation
Good luck.

Ok we get it, you like to fuck niggers.
Some people don't though and they're increasingly at risk of being stamped "hateful" in this society for having opinions. Being stamped that renders their ability to get certain jobs, etc, harder.
It's exactly like China's social credit system in some ways (which really makes you think).

>just stop keeping your thoughts in your head
>oh but if you have bad thoughts then you will go to jail

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>yfw every method to hide your identity is useless because hardware has backdoors

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Tonnes of liberal faggots are secretly racist homophobes too.
Learn to id.

So I can take vacations outside of Scandinavia without getting disappeared.

not that guy
eat the rich in broad sense not extreme sense.
lobby, bribing, giving free options, decentralization, increasing competition, media dominance and advertising. Regulation of electronics. Planned obsolescence. Goverment competing with private, opinions on taxes, information withholding, forcing captive markets to give up power/information, socialism for the rich, benefits to rich, abuse by the rich, tax and funding disinformation. ...

>just because you have a backdoor, robbers must exploit it to steal your shit
But regardless, we need better locks for it.

Only that this works from the side of population. No one wants works next to a nazi, sorry, bud.

As long they have the self control not to annoy other people with their idiocy, who cares? No one stops nazis from fantasising about purging negros and homos ... if they announce their fantasies in the open, it's given that no one would want to be around that person. It's basically self isolation.

Not a single of these opinions would get you in trouble as long you don't go on about in a "kill porky" way. Now some would obviously affect how your employer views you, but if you're applying as an accountant for Google and oppose double Dutch on social media ... it wouldn't be a great fit either way.

Oh and besides there are examples of companies specifically hiring people who hold opposing views. FB recruited legitimate privacy advocates for example. Guess everyone is for sale.

Interesting.

>No one wants works next to a nazi
I wonder if your inner brain agrees. "Racism" is part a natural phenomenon. It is part of the mechanism we use to distinguish between objects. Naturally, we value things in a hierarchy as we need to number the importance of one object to us than another object. The race of a person is no exception.
Hence why "anti-racism" merely becomes "anti-white" as we simply inverse the hierarchy in our minds.

I hope you're not white user.

>No one stops nazis from fantasising about purging negros and homos
Except many organisations want to crack down on hate speech. Is that not a mere verbal ejaculation of thought?

Not calling mutilated men a 'woman' for example.

That's why I moved country.
Of course it's open to exploitation, people have tried to exploit me over it before. However, I'm not going to let me personal wellbeing get in the way of my beliefs.

Fetishes shouldn't be shamed. I have no political power, but I can at least create normal relationships with people and help to humanise the concept of practitioners of my fetishes to people. Helping to make a culture free of these issues.

It is rich giving power to enrich themselves
you get harassed and paid trolls/bots discredit you. Flooded/scared/threaths to stop I dont think an outsider can know. No visibility.

>nazism bad
>oh you're commie? that's okay
and now you know why people want privacy being private, because bootlickers like you would report and ban every wrong (any opinion different from yours) opinion, nobody wants to work with trannies, gays, commies etc. either but these are for some weird reasons encouraged to spread their nonsense which is far more dangerous for western society than all nazis on the planet combined

Your data can get one day leaked to somebody you know.

>I wonder if your inner brain agrees.
Pretty sure the brain of everyone above 10 can make the distinction between "woah, this is new, scary" and "let's take rights away from this person a few shades too dark"

>Is that not a mere verbal ejaculation of thought?
And crossing the line. A pretty decent indicator for poor impulse control which would be a negative even if the thought itself wouldn't be cancerous. You're free to fantasise about lynching your boss after he announced another week of crunch time or wanting to bust a nut in the face of that new qt co worker. If you can't stop yourself from sharing these fantasies ... better stay in your basement.

>why do you insist to keep your things private?
>LOL YOU CAN'T SAY THIS ALOUD, GO TO JAIL
if opinions of others people are so dangerous for you maybe you should grow some skin, bootlicker, it's always laughable when you (((antifascists))) are greatest supporters of totalitarianism and suppression of freedom of speech.

>Why do you use weird operating systems?
because they're fun
>Why do any of this if what you're doing isn't illegal?
i don't want someone watching me just because i'm not doing anything wrong