ATTENTION: The Navi RX 5700XT and RX 5700 will launch alongside Ryzen 3000 series CPUs with PCIe 4.0 on 7/7/2019. Nvidia is rumored to be releasing a SUPER series that will reportedly see 20 series cards bumped by ~15% performance while retaining their price points. More info on the SUPER series possible on 6/21.
Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >i3 8350k - Recommended minimum gaming >i5 8400U/9600k - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >i7 9700K - Extreme solution for absolute max FPS >i9 9900K - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing >i9 7980XE - HEDT
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >GTX 1660 - standard >RTX 2060 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 1440p >RTX 2060 - standard >RTX 2080 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 - standard >RTX 2080Ti - better fit for 4K but expensive
General: >Always avoid AMD if gaming >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
GSkill Ripjaws 16GB 3000MHz DDR4 Kit (F4-3000C16D-16GVRB) >gskill.com/en/product/f4-3000c16d-16gvrb It's not the ripjaw V. So I was wondering if anyone knows of the compatibility of this ram with ryzen? I know they've tried to fix shit over the years but some rams still aren't hitting box label ratings.
Is it possible to pass P95 but still be starving energy a bit?
Colton Barnes
I have the same kit except 3200 cl16 It has hynix CJR ram which works better than samsung bdie with ryzen, you can OC it really well (i've only taken mine to 3200 cl14 though, waiting for the 3600x to come out before I go further)
Oliver Cooper
The g.skill site QVL only have testing on intel chipsets. And the motherboard I'm getting. MSI B450m mortar has a few g.skill but not this specific model.
>Always avoid AMD if gaming Absolutely based. AMD fags BTFO
Jacob Murphy
My micron E is at 3400 c16 currently
Jack Stewart
>It has hynix CJR ram which works better than samsung bdie with ryzen Lol >you can OC it really well Wtf you what
Grayson Lewis
What was the price of the new one? Does it have 1 year guarantee left? That is something I would think about first. Also if you're running nvidia gpu check how it works with this monitor, it has freesync.
Nolan Sanchez
>have the same kit except 3200 cl16 Do you know the exact model number? F4-3000C16D-16GVRB You see the last letter? Does it matter? Series: VR / VB / VK / VS / VG = Ripjaws V (Red / Blue / Black / Silver / Gunmetal Gray) RR / RB / RK = Ripjaws 4 (Red / Blue / Black) XL / XM / XH = RipjawsX ZL / ZM / ZH = RipjawsZ RL / RM / RH = Ripjaws TZ = Trident Z TX = TridentX TD = Trident AB / AO / AR = ARES ECO = ECO SR = Sniper IS / ISL = Aegis NQ / PK / HK = Performance NT / NS = Value RAM SQ / SK = SO-DIMM for laptop
This is from their FAQ. It's confusing cause "VRB" shouldn't really be a thing unless they've fused things. Now I can't tell if it's a "V" or "4"
Though their site says it is. But isn't that odd? Cause now when I'm looking at the mobo qvl I'm getting picky about those last letters because of it technically it's not on the qvl
Jackson Carter
>ask Jow Forums about best price/performance cpu >everyone tells me to but ryzen 2 cpu >enter speccy thread >intel i5's and i7's everywhere >only a handful ryzen users
it might not be "better" tbqh but apparently it's very close to being just as good but i'm pretty sure i've read some other material that said CJR hynix ram is great for overclocking gskill.com/en/product/f4-3200c16d-16gvkb this is the exact set I have and I overclocked it easily and have had no problems with it using the ryzen dram calculator, 2400g and a msi b450 board ignore the memers and get a 2600/2600x ryzen
Jason Hernandez
speccy thread lol. i don't think speccy even works well for AMD.
look at the cpu benchmark charts. you will the 2700x is in a sweet spot of price and performance.
(wait afew days for new cpu's. july 7th. should be interesting)
if you want a intel cpu - don't listen fags on the internet - its your money.
Eli Johnson
>get a ryzen no, don't do this user ryzen = trash
John Parker
Where the fuck's the real OP?
Henry Butler
Is this Intel shilling season?
Connor Davis
Just pay attention to what kind of clocks you're getting. Obviously if they're lower than before you lowered the voltage you are starving your cores of voltage. There should be a sweet spot where PBO is able to push higher due to more room in the TDP limit and is not limited by the lower voltage. The sweet spot will be different with every chip.
Xavier Reed
The last few weeks have been constant AMD shilling so now we are taking turns
Michael Johnson
Ah, that's fair. The counter-shilling rages on.
Charles Flores
Ryzen 2700x user here, bought it a year ago. It's fuckin fantastic, but I have shitload of multicore workloads, and I ain't complaining about gaming on it. ^this. When I was buying my rig there was no reason for me to buy Intel.
Oy vey, it's the salty Intards. Your single-core performance and higher clock speeds won't save you thanks to security threats and bios patches, making you irrelevant as fuck lol
Aiden Ortiz
>Your single-core performance and higher clock speeds won't save you yes they will
Jackson Martinez
I can't wait until a fatal security flaw in Zen is detected and absolutely cucks your performance as well
Thomas Roberts
doing the exact same thing as them just in the opposite direction though doesn't prove them wrong, or even accomplish anything good.
Jayden Allen
Is there any not pain in the ass way to move my OS without all the shiet on my computer to a new SSD. nope i do not have another memory that can fit my OS
Nathan King
Realistically, how long after RTX super and Ryzen 3000 launches until the previous version goes on sale?
Jose Reyes
There are many fatal security flaws in Zen.
Hudson Johnson
It's not even that reason either, it's because new AMD chips come out in a month and they're paid to try and lower the impact of its release.
x570 + 3400g as a placeholder for a 4400g? Does that make sense or will 4400g use other socket? Are there any estimates on matx or mitx boards and their prices?
AMD is becoming less and less trustworthy since they got full of themselves.
>it's because new AMD chips come out in a month and they're paid to try and lower the impact of its release. You realize you have been saying stuff similar to that nature for over a year now, about pretty much what ever reason you can come up with?
Cooper Nguyen
>Xx70 for an APU nani
Camden Nguyen
God I wish someone would actually pay me to shill their shitty products
Jeremiah Perry
>There are many fatal security flaws in Zen.
A singular exploit chain that required administrative local access that was patched within days of discovery (without any performance impact) is not "fatal" Mrs. 30% slowdown.
Just wait(tm) for Intel Sunny Cove CPUs, fellow brotheren.
It won't be a paper launch this time.
Landon Roberts
So if max clock on hwmonitor is 3500mhz I should be fine?
What is PBO?
That's cool and triggers me to try it, but for now I just want the lowest safe voltage with stock clock because I'm getting temperature issues. And stock clock shouldn't be a bottleneck anyway with the Vega iGPU
>Mrs. 30% slowdown. More like 1% general slowdown and 0% in games slowdown.
Christopher Gray
Not him but then why are you lads scared of updating your stuff for the mitigations?
David Young
>When it stops being true I'll stop bringing the fact up in conversation. You realize there is plenty of loonies out there that consider a lot of things "true". And using their insane beliefs as facts to justify stupid actions is just annoying.
>doesn't realize that games in the coming years will be optimized to use 8 cores/16 threads.
i5 and i7 users are fucked.
David Clark
>SSD performance is one metric where the mitigation impact is shown. You can't even refute this since SSD's are musts for gaming PC's to load faster.
Nicholas Sanders
Hard to believe considering how slow devs have been to even make effective use of 4 cores
Juan Bennett
Okay. But I can't see it stating the amount of the impact anywhere?
Josiah Thompson
>cheapest v56 in my area is a sapphire pulse for $400 aussie >think great find, buy it to replace rx480 >slap it in my nzxt manta >expect high fps at 1440p >instead the card blast past 70c and makes a TERRIFYING whirrrrrr noise I NEVER EVEN CONSIDERED THE SIZE OF THE FUCKER ITS SO BIG THAT THERES LITERALLY NO SPACE FOR IT TO DRAW AIR IN FROM THE BOTTOM BECAUSE OF THE PSU SHROUD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I FUCKING HATE PC GAMING
Wow my game now loads in 0,82s as opposed to 0,8s. What a shocker.
Ian Young
you're already seeing it via new games choking the 7600K and taking advantage of the 1600's resources.
Nathan Perry
>Companies that have been caught for underhanded tactics (find guilty in court and forced to pay literally billions) would never stoop so low again! Literally you.
Precision Boost Overdrive Basically the CPU can independently boost cores based on temperatures, voltage, and other factors. That sounds like your CPU can't push higher than stock clocks, like it's not even reaching the rated boost clocks. If it can run benchmarks without crashing you shouldn't experience crashing or instability or anything, but your processor will not be performing like it should.
It really doesn't take much to be able to cool a Ryzen part at stock clocks. I've got a 1700 at 3.8GHz ~1.3V on the stock cooler. You really should sort out your cooling issues rather than limiting your CPU.
Hunter Reed
>Zen 2 will crush Intel ahahaha, no
Gabriel Long
never said that, it's just that you are crying wolf about literally everything imagine somebody farted and you screams ITS THE JEWWWSSSS, nobody would take you seriously, and that's effectively what you have achieved.
>posts graph of AMD murdering Intel in sales >ahahahaha no.
This has got to be the most delusional person ever.
Aiden Turner
How does that work?
John Diaz
>>posts graph of AMD murdering Intel in sales and that's why AMD makes 4 million a quarter and Intel makes over 1 billion?
Hunter Peterson
Is there any benefit to updating my gigabyte b450m bios from F4 to F32 if I'm not buying a Ryzen 3xxx?
Cameron Campbell
>he doesn't know that the earth is a hollow disk The absolute state of AMDlets
Jonathan Baker
>bigger number bigger then smoller number!!
Hudson Long
more delusional is pretending a single german retailer is directly comparable to world wide sales.
If you're lucky it'll be close, with 5-10%, but without more sources, it's impossible to say how accurate it is.
And no, amazon is not another source, they don't give sales volume.
Liam Johnson
>NEW* relative growth doesn't matter!
Evan Cook
Nzxt manta. It has an irrevocable psu shroud that has ventilation grooves but they’re irrelevant. Half is already blocked by the psu. I really didn’t consider the thiccness of the card, it practically flush with the shroud. Just gonna sell the card at a 10 loss and move on. FUCK
There are probably AGESA updates in there that will improve RAM compatibility and allow you to clock it higher, and there may also be bug patches included.
