How would internet be without profit motive

how would internet be without profit motive
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Probably still just a government project.

Profit has never been the motive behind the internet.
Surveillance has.

Surveillance has never been the motive behind the internet.
Porn has.

No ads, less js

Fair point, but porn nevertheless contributes to creating profiles.

There'd be a lot more racism and it'd be more raw. Companies not making profit will not unnaturally police speech. YouTube may or may not make profit, but Google is wealthy and can afford it.

It would be the same as in the 90s and early 00s. People would be self-hosting mostly, there wouldn't be ads. It would definitely be better than what we have now.

You still need to make money, even without a profit motive.

Better

It would be in a similar state as ham radio is.
a niche thing with limited use and weird rules

just the military

right, no profit behind installing the physical network

>people aren't capable of laying cable
If we're talking about socialism the State would build the infrastructure.

yes, not for its military and maybe, maybe, for itself

>Profit
The benefit of the internet would still be the infrastructure of easy communications between offices, schools and homes. Not everything needs to directly create $$$ to be worthwhile.

As a infrastructure? It probably wouldn't be real if it wasn't for profit.
But as a software, it's mostly open source projects and everything has free alternative anyway.

The internet has too many benefits even outside of money that Socialism would still produce an internet. Although that presumes that domestic computers would be anywhere near as popular as they were under capitalism.

AFAIK the USSR never produced an indigenous computer that was solely intended for homes, the ones that did exist were all copies of the British ZX Spectrum and were woefully obsolete at the time of release.

Private military communication and talks of some fringe people in society "trespassing on government property" that would like to charges rivaling espionage.

Presuming the internet would always be public access, there never wouldn't eventually be a profit motive.
Average people turned a system that was intended for the transmission of documents into a social apparatus, corporations just turned up to copy or purchase that work to create communities based around giving them money indirectly.

Well, since the only way to remove profit motive from society is by instituting socialist totalitarianism, the internet would be just a handful of government controlled websites, even more restrictive when it comes to free speech than the status quo.

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>Implying old social BBSes were run for profit
People come up with shit, corporations monetise it. Look at Facebook, it was a nice little social network for college students until capitalism got its fucking claws into it.

>A Russian using the terms "Jamal" and "Cletus"

There were and will always be some non-profit websites, but to completely remove profit motive from the internet as the OP said would require a strong dictatorship.

Russian just means born in Russia. You can learn a language and acclimate to the jargon pretty fucking quickly, Clemal.

It's a shame they're learning it from this shit hole though.

It would need a dictatorship to force a small community to be as big as something like Facebook, but I presume OP wishes the internet remained just small communities based around BBS, IRC and personal webpages.

>no ads
>no ecelebs
>no YouTube retarded commercial videos
>no twitch
A Heaven

nobody had any idea about how valuable the internet was before most of the stuff we have today actually happened
The ideas of filesharing, e-commerce or even social media were all mocked before they started bringing up billions

Fine, it just proves that an idea needs people and not the wide-spread acceptance that venture capitalists needs.

it needs the ability of some people being able to do whatever they want, even if it goes against the perceived community's interests.

And you think this is an issue with economic ideology? Socialist countries have all been authoritarian first and foremost, mostly because their predecessor nations were also authoritarian and that's all anyone knows.

this has nothing to do with authoritarianism you fucking dumbass

Well then what about OP's scenario would prevent people from doing whatever they want with the internet you slag?

redditors unironically believe this. nobody was censoring usenet or BBSes etc. yet the massive archives we have are testament that people could behave themselves just fine. in fact, muh racism appeared as the internet became overly accessible and the barrier to entry was removed.

When people starting screaming out to be different and be noticed.

It would just be a digital library for universities has intended.

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culture, free P2P trading networks, real world nonprofit sharing via contracts easily accessible online i.e communes

Let's be honest here. Usenet has a massive history of trolling and flaming, so saying people could behave themselves is an exaggeration.
Not to say they can now, but the situation wasn't that different.