/pcbg/ - PC Building General

ATTENTION: The Navi RX 5700XT and RX 5700 will launch alongside Ryzen 3000 series CPUs with PCIe 4.0 on 7/7/2019. Nvidia is rumored to be releasing a SUPER series that will reportedly see 20 series cards bumped by ~15% performance while retaining their price points. More info on the SUPER series possible on 6/21.

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and monitor suggestions; click on blue titles to see notes
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>How to assemble a PC
youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g

Want help?
>State budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing:
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS)
>R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming
>R5 2600/X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs
>i7 8700 or 9700K - Extreme solution for absolute max FPS
>R7 2700/X - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing

RAM:
>Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended
>CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal
>AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP

Graphics cards based on current pricing:
>Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty
1080p
>RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value
>GTX 1660 - standard
>RTX 2060 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor)
1440p
>RTX 2060 - standard
>RTX 2080 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor)
2160p (4K)
>RTX 2080 - standard
>RTX 2080Ti - better fit for 4K but expensive

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync
>A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
>Bottleneck checkers are worthless

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You appear to be flustered.

My usual routine is
>Clear cmos
>Enable xmp and set the clock/timings/voltage that I had tested to be stable
>set cpu vcore to a low and stable value
>switch geardown from auto to enabled
>that's just it iirc, and the boot device
>log to windows, open Ryzen master, disable everything but the GPU and OC it, and apply
>run some stuff to test it and game
>no ram errors, no crashes during games
>hit restart
>shuts off and doesn't restart
>press power, it makes a click and die again
>turn psu off and on
>pc turns on but doesn't post and power led keeps blinking fast like bad lamps do (just an analogy, the led is good)

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>hates intel yet wearing poo undies
?????

Next time you find yourself arguing with an intel shill, just remember that they are the kind of people who post shit like

>Ryzen 9 3900x has same performance of i9 9900k at the same/slightly higher price point
What's the point?

is the samsung 850 evo still a good buy? specifically the 4TB model selling for the cheapest cost/gb out of any ssds here rn

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Never buy AMD. 3950X has single core score of 5800, while a stock i9 9900k has 8k to 9k.

Lol dude you guys meme about gassing jews and the holocaust and shit both sides are obnoxious and span wojaks

Is it AMD who's making these Ryzen pics?

>he's still pretending AMD isn't the poo company

come on, PooMD has been a meme for fucking years, you can't just start intel is the poo company in 2018 and expect it to actually catch on.

AMD has had the title for far longer, and it's far more relevant to them.

Yes

Duh?

Why do I see retards on youtube comparing ryzen to their amd equivalents, but the ryzen is over clocked .4ghz over boost, and the intel isn't even at its max turbo boost

Then the ryzen wins by like 10 fps and the comments are filled with amd fanboys talking about the value of extra cores.

Just watched a 1600 vs 9100f comparison that did just that. The 1600 is a smarter buy just for the upgrade path into 3000 later on, but not one comment mentioned the clock difference, hey just saw their brand winning and posted their half brained gloating.

Gamers are retarded.

Lol they're openly measuring dicks
AMD always losers

>newer than a 9900k
>literally the same price
>still has a worse performance
Reminder that AMD is a joke.

Rate my build
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Welcome to the internet

based and redpilled

>32gb RGB ram
>650w for 2080

man thats a cute monke
idk man mommy is asian so amd CAN'T be the poo company

50% more cores for workloads obviously.
3700x will also have the same performance as the 9900k.

>3700x will also have the same performance as the 9900k.
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
How can AMD fags be so delusional?

Because you can't oc low end intel chips.

what's wrong with that?

For the RAM, I can't find any kits with the same specs that aren't RGB.

It's 2x16GB 3000Mhz CL14.


For the PSU, even a 2080Ti only pulls ~330w

650w is more than enough for a 65w TDP CPU, and whatever other random shit he throws in there.

He wasn't talking about overclocking you moron. Turbo boost is not overclocking.

That PSU won't suffice

Why not?

Take a 2700x and add 15%ipc and 5% clock speed. Woah so hard.

Wouldn't suprise me if the 3700x/3800 are better than the 3900 for gaming due to less latency

w for 2080
so?

My usual routine is
>Buy the 2nd best everything
>Assemble it
>Don't touch it for four years
>One day it blue screens and won't post after that
>Repeat

Yeah but 9900k is 40% ahead in fps

Speaking of delusion
>SUNNY COPE 40% BETTER IPC

AHAHAHAHAH you absolute fucking moron ahahha I can't even

>Ryzen was clocked .4 over boost
How do you do that without over locking champ

Thank god I can finally run CS:GO properly on my 440hz monitor.

Ryzen 5 3600X is better than 9900k kek

>Ryzen
>Turbo boost
Are you pretending to be this stupid right now?

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...Who cares?

If the intel wasn't even hitting it's turbo boost speeds, then it's clearly not a fair test.

baste and reptiled

Just wait for 10nm

do you plan on updating bios with another cpu for that mobo? because it wont work with new 3000s
either get a MSI that has flashing or a crosshair vii

fun fact for those two monitors you could get this instead pcpartpicker.com/product/xwdxFT/acer-xv273k-pbmiipphzx-270-3840x2160-144-hz-monitor-xv273k-pbmiipphzx

CPU when OC'd will draw more. As will RAM and storage devices when everything is under load.
750W would be more realistic.

Because it's a single core turbo boost on low end intel chips, not an all core turbo boost

I just don't see how that math works out

Even if you do some CRAZY OC I can't see it breaking 650w.

3700x at 170w (way beyond a normal OC)
2080 at 330w (also way beyond a normal OC)

That leaves you 150w for everything else.

Unless he's got a dozen HDDs and 20 high speed fans. He'll be fine, no matter what RAM he's using.

GUYSS our 0ghz ryzen 0 0x is better than a 9900k Intel btfo kek

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Reposting from last thread

I really want a new monitor but everything besides the nixeus edg27 seems trash. Do you girls (guys) think the valve index could be substituted as a monitor? It is probably retarded but just something I thought of. And do you think the eve 'spectrum' community made monitor will be shit like the eve tablet?

pcpartpicker.com/list/x6xkV6
Better?

HELP MEEEEEEEE

Thank you based amd intel is pozzed housefired and bankrupt

I mean it's fine, but realistically you'll never break 400w unless you do some synthetic loads to stress your shit.

And without some RETARDED OC, you'll not even be able to draw more than 550w with those components.


But hey, retards have been buying 1000w+ PSUs for years without any need, so sure. Go ahead.

>pozzed
A CPU can only be as pozzed as it's weakest point. In Intel the ME has been locked down and analyzed by tons of security experts and is no longer a security risk.
In AMD however, PSP has never been locked down and therefore is the biggest POZZ a CPU can have. The impact of Intel's exploits (almost all of which have been patched) is not remotely close to the pozz of PSP.
>bankrupt
Intel makes 2 billions a quarter, AMD makes 4 millions.

what do you need a 970 pro for? extremely overpriced unless u gonna be running shit tons of writes on it
what do you need a shit ton of rgb fans for?
still a mobo that you need to flash before using cpu

Source? Intel says turbo 2.0 is all core

intel.ca/content/www/ca/en/support/articles/000007359/processors/intel-core-processors.html

>In Intel the ME has been locked down and analyzed by tons of security experts and is no longer a security risk.
do you glow in the dark by any chance

>Intel makes 2 billions a quarter, AMD makes 4 millions.
Which is why it's equally hilarious when AMDshills claim intel can't possibly make a process node comeback.

Intel spends around $5b per quarter on R&D.
AMD spends around $300-400m per quarter on R&D.

Intel is pozzed, deal with it.

Kek you can spend 6 gorillion shekels on your 10nm, it will stay shit forever. TSMC and Samsung are leading the way.

fixed for you
pcpartpicker.com/list/ZqXdKB
cooler and case fans optional but you want to spend money so get them

"leading" the way when their 7nm is barely even matching the feature sizes being offered on intel's 10nm

Just because TSMC and Saumsung use a smaller number doesn't mean it's actually smaller.

Just proved you wrong though.
>intel 14nm performs better than AMD 7nm
>kek 10nm wont be better!
kys

Intel 10nm superpower 2020

Doesn't change the fact that 10nm is shit forever. But I'm sure throwing more shekels will fix it lul

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buy new psu ?

pcpartpicker.com/list/4DFpfH

Will this run battlefield and gta

I bought it last week

Jesus, even if the product released today, was proven to be 40% faster than Zen2. You'd STILL claim it's shit and would make up some bullshit about future security issues that will magically kill any performance increase, so you should still buy AMD cause AMD would never lie or have security patches that lower performance.

guys I could get a used zotac gtx 1080ti amp extreme for 500 € ($560). should i take the bait?

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>second higest clocking node
first is Amd fx 8350 made on 32 nm
also cope

Did you reset bios?

Are you mad? I would pay that much for a new 1080ti, but not for a used one

So now that high end zen2 is shit for games what do I buy?

Cheapest gpu to run 144hz csgo at 1080p?

lol true

9700k/9900k or keep waiting.

9900k
1080 probably

8700K/9700K

Clear cmos equals reset bios

RX580 or GTX1060 6GB
CSGO doesn't need a strong GPU

I run 1440p 144hz CSGO on a 1660Ti

oof
sapphire vega 64s are going as low as £300 on ebay now, so tempting to get one

just get the 9400f and be done with it

V64 is a shit
Get a second hand 1080

Why would you though? That's like $400 down the drain.

>future security issues that will magically kill any performance increase, so you should still buy AMD cause AMD would never lie or have security patches that lower performance
This but unironically.

What cards are you waiting to release?
I don't think super or navi are that far away

Those cards would be overkill for what he needs anyway

Yeah but don't expect more than 40-50 fps

Yes but why would you torture yourself with that low resolution

because it's £20 more than a brand new vega 56 sapphire
not getting anything but a super 2060 or a rx 5700
need to stop browsing ebay and looking for deals compulsively tbqh

It will, but barely. Also:
>battlefield

>buy intel garbage with HT
>disable HT because it's diseased
9700k is the only cpu that's not a complete disaster.

>1440p/144hz
3800X/2080Ti super
3900X/2080Ti super
3950X/2080Ti super
Which one?
(Assuming the leak was right)
Is 12/16c really a good idea for future proofing?

9900k/2080Ti super

Tbf, there is no need for most people to disable hyper threading.

It's not like hyper threading on = TOTALLY VULNERABLE PC ANYONE COULD ATTACK AT A MOMENTS NOTICE

to

hyper threading off = totally secure

There won't be a super 2080 ti

He phrased it last thread like he was waiting

That's exactly how it works.