>The Intel Management Engine always runs as long as the motherboard is receiving power, even when the computer is turned off >It has elevated priority over any operating system installed to storage >Intel has disclosed very little information on this hidden operating system installed on CPUs since 2008
Why are you concerned with privacy on your Linux operating system when this thing exists?
It really sucks. Even AMD has a similar thing in their processors. There's no escape from the botnet.
Easton Clark
>Why are you concerned with privacy on your Linux operating system when this thing exists? Because realistically it's never going to be used If the ME really is a NSA tool it's not one that is just going to be used willy nilly on some random
Kevin Gonzalez
Im not. Privacy is a meme and fodder for conspiracy theorists and NEETlords.
i could just block any outgoing connections from it in my router
Isaiah Clark
>>Why are you concerned with privacy on your Linux operating system when this thing exists? your biggest threats are passive collection, not a targeted attack. Both from NSA mass surveillance and the ad companies they outsource mass surveillance to.
Because that shit ain't sending data unless I receive a targeted attack. And I won't receive one because I care about privacy on my GNU plus Linux operating system.
Tyler Cook
doesn't that thing have a backdoor too?
Alexander Jenkins
>honestly thinking ME is anything but a tool for enterprise that is simply too complex to remove, (due to its requirements), for the few SKUs that tinfoils will buy at retail to stick into their GAYMING rig I mean yeah it's an attractive attack vector but hardening ME is also a very high priority for Intel since their big enterprise customers rely on it.
Easton Perry
But that's false, you can turn it off. It just requires really low level programming, is all. The system treats it as a regular PCIe device, there's nothing "scary" or "hidden" about it.
If you disable it I thought it starts shutting off your pc every half hour (as it thinks the security of the cpu has been compromised).
William Nelson
Intel gives me a cold prickle, they’re trying to touch me in my naughty place. They said if I told they’ll kill me.
Asher Nguyen
Shadow Brokers release proves the NSA can’t keep its shit from getting out into the wild.
Colton Martinez
It's a fancy KVM. Just as much of a 'botnet' as an ethernet card but Jow Forums is full of schizos off their meds as usual.
Adam James
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Grayson Bennett
>>The Intel Management Engine always runs as long as the motherboard is receiving power, even when the computer is turned off
Despite using any modern processor, according to you, we should all just unplug our desktops from time to time yes? It's a slight inconvenience, but so are many things. I would like to have freedom respecting software/hardware in a modern sense. Currently, running gnu/linux on an old fx-8320 (so before supposed back-door AMD).
Kevin White
I mean yeah it's an attractive attack vector but hardening ME is also a very high priority for Intel since their big enterprise customers rely on it.
It's not an attack vector. It's a backdoor for the few with the key to slip in.
It's a fancy KVM. Just as much of a 'botnet' as an ethernet card but Jow Forums is full of schizos off their meds as usual.
Explain what "KVM" is. Explain what "botnet" is. Now, explain why anyone in this day and age has doubt as to how/where data concerning our mundane day to day lives isn't being exploited. No matter the cause, it is malicious.
James Howard
>(so before supposed back-door AMD AGESA/Microcode/Intel FSP are also backdoors. Removing the ME/PSP don't really do shit.
Samuel Cox
Elaborate and provide links for said claims. Claims being: "AGESA/Microcode/Intel FSP are also backdoors. Removing the ME/PSP don't really do shit.
Joshua Diaz
>pre-2008 >shitty My Core 2 Quad dabs on any nu processor except Ryzen u zoomer scum
I keep my PC left with standby power as this helps the CMOS battery last longer.
Matthew Gray
It's actually circa 2012 if you use coreboot (not libreboot) on a Thinkpad X230 and Replicant on a Samsung Galaxy S3.
Talos II motherboards are expensive but new, and Purism's phone is due to come out this year, so a debotnetted rig of 2019 hardware is almost possible, if you have about $2000 to burn.
Don't lose hope, user. If we can get a libre system-on-chip off the ground, everything else will flow from that.
Michael Powell
>Replicant on a Samsung Galaxy S3. ahh yes, forget the intel backdoor, how about a closed gsm chip instead, great advice there glowie
Liam Fisher
>huehuehue Intel is sending all ur pron to da CIA XDDD That's not how any of this works. If they literally had every Intel device connected to the net 24/7 receiving and sending data and passwords, the NSA and the CIA would be able to detain and stop terrorists and pederasts immediately. They would be able to break any encryption and know who is behind any Tor session. But they don't.
Yet we know, thanks to the latest NSA leaks, that they rely on social engineering and browser exploits to break encryption and break Tor's security. Ergo, IME is not funneling data to the NSA. >AMD has PSP PSP has no network access.
If the NSA mandated that their security cameras in all bathrooms, would you be fine with it, knowing they have no reason to take an interest in you specifically? What's that, user? You'd love it for some deliberately ironic reason that allows you to check out of this thread without thinking too hard because you made a joke? Well, never mind that. Privacy is appealing even if you're not under the illusion of being persecuted or targeted.
Austin Mitchell
*cameras be installed
Jack Morales
Even on S3 they are not sure of gsm/modem backdoors: >Second choices include the Galaxy S 2 (I9100), the Galaxy S 3 (I9300), the Galaxy Note 2 (N7100) and the Galaxy Nexus (I9250), in order of supported hardware features in Replicant (more to less). These devices are fairly common and easy to find. They do not run free bootloaders, but were not proven to have bad modem isolation and perform well with Replicant.
Here's an interesting talk about wifi chipset exploitation (yeah wifi chipset alone runs it's own RTOS): youtube.com/watch?v=TDk2RId8LFo
Wyatt Turner
PSP has no network access. It needs the OS to run a program to allow it to do so.
So unless the user runs said program, PSP can't connect to the network (unlike IME which can connect by itself.) If the user's PC is compromised in a way that a third party can run such program with administrative access, then the user is fucked anyway.
>he thinks you can disable the botnet with a few clicks kek, can you stop your heart from beating with your brain alone?
Adam Morales
if you're concerned about hardware botnet then get a Talos II Power9 system
Christian Nguyen
And how would you know what the connections are? It’s literally above any OS, it can communicate in any way it wants. It can use Firefox to send your crap over https to them and you can’t even wireshark it. You’d have to disallow any connections in your router, which means no internet at all. It’s ogre.