/pcbg/ - PC Building General

ATTENTION: The Navi RX 5700XT and RX 5700 will launch alongside Ryzen 3000 series CPUs with PCIe 4.0 on 7/7/2019. Nvidia is releasing a SUPER series with slightly increased specs over the original 20 series. Pricing is looking high. More info on the SUPER series possible on 7/2.

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and monitor suggestions; click on blue titles to see notes
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>How to assemble a PC
youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g

Want help?
>State budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing:
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS)
>R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming
>R5 2600/X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs
>i7 8700 or 9700K - Extreme solution for absolute max FPS
>R7 2700/X - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing

RAM:
>Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended
>CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal
>AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP

Graphics cards based on current pricing:
>Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty
1080p
>RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value
>GTX 1660 - standard
>RTX 2060 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor)
1440p
>RTX 2060 - standard
>RTX 2080 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor)
2160p (4K)
>RTX 2080 - standard
>RTX 2080Ti - better fit for 4K but expensive

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync
>A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
>Bottleneck checkers are worthless

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m.youtube.com/watch?v=SFSen7DRQWU
browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/12221001
browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13567135
browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/13622934?baseline=13631495
amazon.fr/Intel-i9-9900K-processeur-Boîte-Smart/dp/B005404P9I/
ebay.co.uk/itm/Sapphire-Radeon-RX-VEGA-56-Pulse-8GB-HBM2-PCI-E-Graphics-Card/293105265111?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2763.l2649
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My first PC build

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Which one should I choose :
Bitfenix Whisper 550W + Noctua NF-S12B Redux
Be Quiet Pure Power 500W + + Noctua NF-S12B Redux
Seasonic Focus Plus 550W
Super Flower Leadtex 550W

I want silence

What do 1c/2t and 1c/1t do in this image? They are not highlighted as kys-tier

Komplett / 10

cooler is overkill, cpu wise id recommend a 9700 instead, and you can get better ram for cheaper (gskill 3000mhz cl16 for 738 krone)

worth waiting for ryzen 3200g? looking mainly for esport titles. overwatch, dota 2, pubg(?)

bequiet PP 500, superb powersupplys that have an inaudible fan

The ugliest ram ever made?

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They're beyond kys-tier. It's the "you deserve to step on legos for eternity" tier.

Why is 2 weeks so fucking long bros?
Keep getting tempted over to the dark side but the prices keep me good.

It's just a grey cover, not that bad

Use Pentium 4.

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Here's a smug Lisa to keep you in check.

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Budget around 800 dollars. I plan on buying locally, as I don't know how much buying over the internet and waiting for it to ship will work for me. I know I'll save a bunch of money and get way better components if I buy online, but I've checked Amazon a bit and a lot of the sellers don't ship to here (Croatia). Anyways, here's the part list. pcpartpicker.com/list/kkhfNQ
You might consider some of the parts really weird, but that's because it's all I have on hand here. The more I think about it, though, the more I am closer to buying it all over the internet so please suggest me a real build.

Thanks

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>6c/6t when Zen 2 is 2 weeks away

Absolute corelet

I would have pink fluffy ram in my non-windowed case if the speed and price was in the sweetspot.

>Zen 2 when i9 9900k is already out
Absolute brainlet

it wont be that much faster, if you want some super cheap build done now, get a 2200G (on the used they are super cheap) and some cheap B350 mobo and some good ram (16gb 3000mhz gskill is cheap af)

This is why people advise against mITX cases which are simply shorter ATX cases. It's a bad design.
v56 pulse isn't even a hot card. The BIOS switch is only 165W.

But anyway, you lower both clocks and voltage together. But no matter what you do, it's going to struggle, simply because of how vacuum pressure works. The only thing that wouldn't struggle is like a 1-1.5slot card, though it's going to have a poor cooler to begin with.

You need a new case.

Not if you find 2200g/2400g on sale.
Also pubg is going to struggle a bit on a 2200g/3200g.

>intel in 2019
>double thermal paste
>non-A-die 2070
>no prices
>meme no airflow case
>"pc building toolkit" when all you need is a fucking screwdriver
wtf

>spending more for less with intlel
Stay poor

So is Gsync better than freesync?

You mean more for more?

Who here buying rx5700xt

>buying an intel in current year
user, please do yourself a favor and find a ditch to die in. you can buy a last gen threadripper for the price of that corelet cpu.

It syncs the display down to lower framerates, freesynch stops around 40ish FPS. But vendor lock in on your monitor and nvidia is supporting more and more freesynch displays.

Computer shop is selling £260 sapphire vega 56 refurbs with the box included and he's checked and a few of them have samsung memory. Do I buy a refurb I KNOW will have samsung memory or do I get a brand new one for £290 that may or may not have samsung memory?

goddamn, you're clueless. For 50% more cores at a penalty of 1-3% in gaming, it's already a steal. Inturds need to hope that gaming benches would favor intel by 15%. Because it's going to be brutal.

People normally buy new pc's don't really buy halo products like the 9900K or heck, the 3950X. They buy around where the 3700X and 3600X reside. When buyers see that they only get penalized 1-3% on Gaming, but gain double the threads for headroom, they're going to buy AMD, especially when Zombie Load and Spectre are already known

>at a penalty of 1-3% in gaming
Lmao. All benchmarks show intel already has a 40% better single core performance, aka the only thing that matters in games.

I have to wait a couple days for my new case, but in the meantime I found something to pass the time with. The end is near. Rebuild 3.0.1 will be the end, I can feel it.
Of course nothing will go right and Ill see you guys for Rebuild 3.1, 3.5, 4, and 5.
Until then anons,
Thanks for the help, sorry for the autism

m.youtube.com/watch?v=SFSen7DRQWU

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>6c/6t in 2019

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Best aircooling case for keeping moderately overclocked 2080 ti and 3900x healthy but also significantly, perhaps even primarily, quiet? I just want to stop the fans from sounding like jet engines like my current build does. The noise profile of a snoring dog is the best way to put my goal - an occasional whirr amidst a low level buzz isn't too bad.
I live in a cold climate by the way, where it has rained all day in the middle of June. I'm also willing to buy third party fans, naturally.

you're retarded and no one gives a shit about you fucking up your pc because you have an african tier IQ

Good for you. I hope your pc goes well, boomer.

Last test I did some half decade ago said it was 142 so we wuz geenus n sheeit.

>All benchmarks
>the benchmarks which has the AMD system run single channel 2133MHz.

Ahahaha. Cope harder faggot.

See you in two weeks.

>intel already has a 40% better single core performance
>40%
Show me or quit talking out of your ass.

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also
can get a reference vega 64 on ebay for the same price, what do

Literally no reason to buy AMD in yurop.

Why does that look like a GPU bottleneck?

browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/12221001
browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13567135

watch this guy cling to this result after getting BTFO'd in two weeks.

>after getting BTFO'd in two weeks
You wish kiddo.

>stock with 2133 RAM vs 6ghz on LN2
lol nice one AMD BTFO

My PS2
It won't read any disc anymore.
I guess planning suicide passes the time nicely.

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Wait for the 2070 super, wait for the AMD Ryzen.
3700x has a good chance of suiting you better for longer than the 9600k, especially if you aren't getting the i5 for a serious discount.
Get RAM that's at least 3000mhz CL16. Consider 32GB, but it's not as huge a deal if for the sake of budget you stick to 16. I don't know what your local options are like, but Amazon Germany has good deals on multiple brands of 3000/3200mhz in 2 x 16gb for around 160 euro.

Last thing is that the Noctua is a top end fan, so there's nothing wrong with it in itself, while the i5 9600k is not a top end CPU, so you're probably spending overkilll on it relative to the strength of your CPU and RAM. Your RAM is outdated/underpowered, and while intel fanboys are right that the i5 9600k is not yet useless, 6 cores 6 threads is not going to hold up all that well in the years to come.

Why would you say that?

>I don't understand how differing architectures work.
>I don't understand that one architecture scales with RAM, while the other ignores it.
>I'm going to ignore that fact.
>Instead, I will ignore all the other results that have the Ryzen run on 3200MHz RAM.

399€ + tips

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Yes yes keep coping

@71557901
cope is a code word for (you)

I just took off the stock cooler for my i7-4770k for the first time in five years after I've started hitting 98C this summer at full load, how does it look?

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Here's the difference from 2133 vs 3733 ram on a stock 3600.
browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/13622934?baseline=13631495

us bongs have it 1:1 with the dollar so ours will be £250 gbp for a 3600x which is 280 euro so I don't think you're getting scammed
plus US prices don't have sales tax included because some states don't have sales tax

The bottom of the heatsink

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amdrones trying to justify poozen2 when AMD's own graphs have them worse than a cheaper intel xD

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>buying a K variant
>using stock heatsink

whats wrong with you?

That's pretty fucked up, why is that, and how does it compare to Intel?
Amazon Germany has the 9900k for €530

Remember about the fact that AMD has lied about their benchmarks in the past.

>9600K
>cheaper.
nice joke. The 9600K, even with the 15% reduction is still just 1~3% under an equivalent Ryzen 3000 SKU on its price bracket.

You'd be a retard if you trade 1-3% gaming performance over double the threads.

It's 510€ here.
amazon.fr/Intel-i9-9900K-processeur-Boîte-Smart/dp/B005404P9I/

Yes of course, good guy intel never lies, intel is our friend :)

The difference is that intel is already out you absolute retard.

so rush and buy, goy.

>be AMD
>your competitor has this amazing 9900k CPU
>try to compete
>have 9 more months to release your CPU
>on top of that add 4 more cores
>on top of that develop it on a 50% shorter transistor architecture (7nm vs 14nm)
>IT'S STILL WORSE

It is? wow I had no idea, wait while I grab my wallet so I can purchase myself one of those 9th Generation Intel® Core™ desktop processors!
jk lol go fuck yourself kike

Do you wait for Nvidia Super?

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Hmm, thanks. I'm not German so I'm open to any Euro Amazon.

No, I'm gonna buy a 2080 Ti in a month because I don't care about a 10% increase in performance.

It was all a ruse
Probably some china only cut down card every got hyped about for no reason

>inturds don't realize that the bottom line is still price-per-performance, not just in gaming, but also in everyday work.

>most buyers buy around the Core i5/ Ryzen 5 range, and this is where Intel has been losing ground. They can keep touting their halo product, but honestly. The battle is really on the mid-range sector.

I forgot to swap out the stock cooler

please respond

What warranty is he offering? I'd rather support a local business all other things being equal.

>240€ vs 310€
>it's the same price dude

>just 10 more euros for the 3600.
This is when I know you're intentionally shilling.

not sure, would have to ask
and it's not a brick and mortar store it's an ebay listing, I called it a computer shop because the guy is a registered business and not some dude selling his gpu to buy the latest and greatest

ebay.co.uk/itm/Sapphire-Radeon-RX-VEGA-56-Pulse-8GB-HBM2-PCI-E-Graphics-Card/293105265111?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2763.l2649

Intel is unironically the best budget option.
No reason to pick the R5 3600 over a 9600K or even a 9400.

>3600 is the same as 3600x
okay you can stop posting now

>double the cores @ 10% price difference.

desu from looking at that I'd just go new from ocuk for the 3 year warranty.

muh samsung memory though

>cores is all that matters

It's like 90% chance.

high doubt its that high

Should I take my motherboard out of the case before cleaning out old thermal paste with ethanol rectified spirit on microfiber cloth?

It's probably higher actually, I've only see 1 recent report of a Pulse with hynix. I've bought 3 recently from ocuk all were Samsung.

hmm i'll go with a brand new one then but if I get a hynix model i'm sending it back AND shitposting here about it

Ok well good luck old chap

>buying a vega housefire

people actually do this?

kys nvidiot

If I'm applying thermal paste to a CPU do I need to apply to a direct contact cooler aswell?

because it's better for mining which makes 95% of amd income.

thanks pal

I just bought this used Corsair LPX ddr4-3000 RAM for $54 with a coupon to save a little money for the new Ryzen CPUs coming out in 2 weeks. Was it a good choice?

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The best budget option is buying first or second gen Ryzen, the fuck are you smoking

Realistically, AMD is going to be overpriced for awhile, so unless you're in a rush to waste money, it's better to either wait a half year or longer, or just buy a 2600 + B450 board and be happy you have a functioning computer.

Buy the way, third gen ryzen motherboards are going to be stupid expensive--minimum of $200 for the z- boards.

Ive bought 2 from amazon and both were Hynix. I'm waiting on the funds on my 2nd return and if I get another hynix, im gonna start hunting baby seals and joining a skinhead gang because its all downhill from here.
If the memory can go past 1000mhz then fine, I'm not trying to set benchmarks but fucking hynix craps out at 950mhz no matter what, even with significant undervolting and with ideal thermals and airflow.

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Look for your model here

hardwareluxx.de/community/f13/die-ultimative-hardwareluxx-samsung-8gb-b-die-liste-alle-hersteller-17-06-19-a-1161530.html

if it says "ja" so yes, it was a good choice.

Do you really need random, anonymous people to validate a purchase you already made?