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You can OC a 570 to reach a 580, we're in a golden age of GPUs
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Chase Roberts
You can unlock cores in a R5 3600 to become a R7 3700x. We're in a golden age of CPUs
Dominic Sanchez
What???
Jacob Howard
Not that one. The cooler can't stand it (I own one of those). Even undervolted it's not pleasant.
Connor Turner
So which one you recommend? And 8GB over 4GB?
Elijah Gomez
I heard V2 (looks red and black instead of white and black) is better.
Carson Lee
Does that mean one could OC a 580 to reach a 590?
Wyatt Fisher
Doesn't that mean 580 is simply that bad if a lower model can catch up with OC?
Aaron Lee
That's bullshit but still wouldn't be unheard of given AthlonII/Phenom II unlocking potential
Dylan Ramirez
You can OC a 9980XE to become an oven, we're in a golden age of CPUs
Anthony Campbell
Uh well yeah especially remembering that 590 is just 580OC...
Nicholas Fisher
You should try the 580. Still better than a reference design 290 though.
Jacob Cook
In that case what card do I get if I OC a 590? Or is that the limit with the RX 500 series?
Ayden Sanchez
for amd always sapphire and or asrock
Sebastian Hill
And 580 is just 480 oced.
Hunter Powell
>sapphire and or asrock
A funny way of spelling "Gigabyte"
Lincoln Hernandez
unless you are a masochist yeah go ahead
Benjamin Campbell
>Flammabyte
Kek
Nathan Peterson
I can get this for 180 euros+tax, 8gb ram, brand new, 24mo warranty. Cheapest in the country.
Should I?
Next best is 4gb sapphire nitro+ for 185 or 8gb nitro+ for 223.
Thomas King
>golden age
The only major 'advancement' we've had in 3 and a half years is RTX, which is an overpriced meme. If anything the GPU scene is in the toilet right now.
John Lopez
Niggabyte (not including Aorus line) have the worst GPU models out there.
Cameron Jenkins
But why
Colton Adams
The 590 is already a 480 pushed to its absolute limit. I doubt it has any overclocking headroom.
Isaac Watson
Well, 590 is moved from 14 to "12"nm that's what allows a tiny bit higher clocks.
Levi Gutierrez
This argument is so fucking retarded.
>HURR DURR me can overclock [card] and have [next card up]!!!!
As if you can't just overclock the more powerful card and restore the performance gap.
Isaac Richardson
Because it's shitty Niggabyte ?
Tyler Jackson
Sure, you can pay more for the better card, or pay less for the worse card to make it as good.
Dominic Ross
you can buy a 1060 or a used 1070 instead, which is much more powerful, power efficient and stable ^^
Asher Peterson
1060 is definitely weaker than a 570 and costs same or more..... And who wants nvidia drivers?!
Adrian Sanchez
you know at this point even the basic 8gb version is ok you dont need nitro plus or whatever
Kevin Ramirez
I don't know if I need the 8gb, I'm on 1280x1024.
Luis Sanchez
what a fucking retard
Angel Parker
at this point a 560 is better
David Harris
I don't know about it. I am overclocked at 77GHz monitor and need it absolutely stable - zero microstutter.
Thinking of buying a xeon x3450 and OCing to 3.6 GHz at least, if I can - higher. I just want a constant secure 60fps minimum.
Eli Carter
in that case i think a 7950 is what you are looking for
Jace Green
In my country those ones are used, raped, sold with artifacts. I ahve the money, believe me. I will maybe buy a ryzen next year or two.
Josiah Roberts
>MSI Armor
Enjoy your house fire.
Caleb Baker
Which country? I bet you can find 2nd hand ones, still in warranty, for half the price. Also 8gb won't make any difference since you have a shitty monitor and shitty cpu
Adrian Hall
And you can OC an RX 580, summerfag.
Hudson Richardson
>Which country?
Bastard child liar country Bulgaria
>shitty cpu
The x3450 overclocked is as good as a i5-3570
Blake Sanders
i dont know a 77ghz monitor is a less than useless on a ryzen
better buy a phenom
Michael Rivera
It has okay colours when calibrated but you can't beat the refresh times of IPS, plus it's 77hz. Monitor is the last thing I Want to buy.
Easton Wright
Black n Red is the fucking Gaming X series, not the armor series which is a lower end series.
It goes
Aero --> Aero
Armor --> Ventus
Gaming X --> Gaming X
Gaming Z
Duke --> Duke
Gaming X Trio
Lighnting --> Lightning/Z
Jack Smith
Then what about this?
Henry Ross
Getting replaced by the Mech 2.
Newer RX 590 no longer uses the red Armor MKII moniker
Sebastian Roberts
>180 euros+tax
>Cheapest in the country.
>tax
>tax
>tax
>in the ocuntry
Why must you turn this thread into a house of lies.
>180 euros for that piece of shit
I can get this for 79 euros in my country.
Evan Wood
>lies
>my country
Okay buy me one and send it, I'll give you $25.
Kevin Powell
any GPU OC'd will be housefire
Wyatt Hall
>t. MSI
No.
Jace Harris
wrong, 5xx is on 12nm
Leo Cruz
V56 on sales should go for 220-270 euros (cyryllic shitholes may not apply)
David Rivera
Give us the name of your country and online shop link user.
Dominic Lee
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Ahahaha the fuck's a shop?
olx.ro
Only 4GB, but it has a 24 months warranty.
Charles Gray
you can OC a 580 to reach performance you cant reach with 570
Juan Taylor
I can get rx 580 8gb for 120e still in warranty here in Serbia.
Putting a overclocked xeon and radeon card is gonna make your room sauna in summer. And i5 3570 is still shit
I'm currently selling i7 3770, 1050ti, 16gb ram, 1tb 7200 hdd for 250 euros. That's a much better, cheaper and cooler system than the one you plan to make. I believe you can get similar deal in bg
Cameron Nelson
He said 180 new.
Lucas Perez
>1050ti
Why would anyone want a laptop GPU in a desktop?
Cooper Nelson
Yes yes because those tiny shops and even the walmarts definitely sell you new stuff, sure sure. Totally not refurbished/second hand posing as new.
David Bell
24mo warranty, some have 36. I'm not buying some fag's burnt gpu.
Juan Nelson
can someone recommend a preferred brand for the RX580 from pic-related please? my budget is around the $200 burger range. Or is there a better option? its going into an old E8400 core duo that has 8 gigs of ram. thanks in advance.
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Ryder Lee
>duo
Unless you will buy a new CPU, it's useless. Duo's a bottleneck even if it doesn't reach 100% usage.
Josiah Robinson
I have the cheap one, it's a bit loud but works fine otherwise. Spend the extra 10 or 20 bucks if you think it will bother you.
Jack Lewis
im planning to replace the pc later this year w/ a Ryzen something as soon as the reviews start rolling out
Leo Scott
Oh then buy the cheapest one with 2 fans.
Wyatt Ward
LOL, how much of an overheating piece of shit the 570 can be? This cooler does an excellent job on a GTX 1080.
Liam Barnes
loud fans dont bother me, i'd just like to get the best bang for the buck. i was concidering the ArmorMK2, but i wanted some opinions before i placed the order
Anthony Miller
1060 is faster than the 570 in DX11/OpenGL which is what the majority of games and emulators run on.
Jaxson Walker
The 6GB version may be faster in a few games but the 570 wins in most.
Jose Richardson
The 100mm MSI fans aren't loud by any standard, mate. They're definetely quieter than any 80mm 3500rpm shit the other cards have.
Hunter Cooper
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>Why would anyone want a laptop GPU in a desktop?
Because i can use sff system with standard 250w psu. You can get 1650lp. I was comparing it to anons system so it makes sense
William Nelson
It's not a laptop GPU. The laptop GPU is way weaker.
Gabriel Clark
Oh my god you can overclock a gpu to perform as well as 4 year old midrange card? Amazing
Hudson Adams
>midrange
580 is high tier my dude maxes out everything 1080p
Luis Jenkins
Kinda sorta but the 580 has 10% more streaming processor's so it will always have more potential.
As for Vram:
1080p you will never need more than 4gm!
1440p and up, is when you want 8gbs
Charles Flores
Not really a golden age given how no reasonable person buys them new because the worst offering of a given generation starts at $400.
Liam Smith
I don't get it? You can buy a 570 new for half that or less.
Kayden Fisher
Thats a joke right?
David Powell
No, stop raping your GPUs or somehting.
Anthony Cruz
how come my 590 can only do 1080p 60fps on LOWEST settings? You guys told me it was a good 1080p card...
John Kelly
Wtf cpu/ram are u running?
I'm getting 1080p/75hz maxxed everything on my 590 with power to spare.(usually around 80-100fps with freesync off)
I'm running a r5 1600 oced to 3.8 and 16gb ddr4 3200...
Hudson Davis
Polaris was the last generation to not do that. I wouldn't buy those in 2019
Aiden Sanchez
you are missing the point.
>oc 7 to 8
>but 8 can oc to 9 and if you can oc 7, you can oc 8 so unless you can oc 7 to 9 then 7 < 8
Mason Murphy
You still don't get it?
>pussy user buys rx 580 and keeps it stock
>chad poorfag OC's 570 past it
Ethan Perez
Doing that means you'll have high noise levels unless you bought one with a nice cooler at which point you paid the price of a low tier 580.
Or you don't care about noise, in which case good for you but you can't say that for every single user.
Nicholas Rogers
I have the tinnitus from when dad took me hunting as a kid
Brandon Cooper
Oh. I'm sorry. How do you deal with being alive?
Chase Thomas
I don't
Thomas Parker
i also have 16gb ddr4 and a ryzen 5 2600.
Levi James
I have the Nitro+ 8GB for about 8~9 months now. Working pretty darn well, especially since i got it used for real cheap.
OC'd it just for testing to see if the difference is noticeable and it isn't. Only issue that despite being able to handle some overclocking it still tends to flip it's shit every once in a while.
And i don't really feel like you need more than stock speeds at 1080p60.
Mason Adams
Buy used, nontax
John Davis
My dad once tried to unload his 30-06 while driving and shot through the transmission while the windows were up.
Evan Collins
Based boomer dads, how the fuck did they survive war
Elijah Sanders
Sapphire is top tier brand for AMD GPUs
Oliver Miller
What are you even on about?
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Gavin Morris
Woah 60hz 1080p gaming! Just like my 970 did! My 2060 is a 144hz 1080p card, and its not high teir. Vega was amds high teir. 580 was mid teir and its old as fuck now because it was just a rebranded 480
Jace Moore
Power color is best
Nathan Rogers
Nitro+ is best but looks like shit. So I got the red devil and it runs fine
Leo Barnes
Thanks for the help. Is pic-related a good deal? I will mostly be using the card for SweetHome3D, some /egg/ games (physics, simulation), Subnautica+ Sub Zero, and maybe UnrealEngine. Not really any 'AAA' titles per se.