Meet my next desktop

explain why I would want this over the better performing Odroid N2

>external GPU

>>/v/

and it took them that long to find it

>sumerfags don't know about beowulf clusters
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf_cluster
get rekt summerfags

>botnet free
>Broadcom VideoCore©

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Other than ethernet, there is no interconnect possible between the pi devices so your performance will be complete dogshit for a desktop experience.

I've been using a Pi 3b+ as a desktop since it came out, it works fine and is comfy. I will be replacing it with the 4 soon.

>fly by night chinkshit vs sony product with actual long term support

Good home theatre pc setup?

>fly by night chinkshit
you have no fucking clue what you're talking about

>with libraries and programs installed which allow processing to be shared among them.

Tell me how a web browser allows processing in separate machines

>botnet free
>ARM
lmao

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But can it run Crysis?

No, but it will work... I guess.

CPu is better than Shield TV, GPU is worse, but should work with hardware acceleration.

Can it drive two monitors?

It can, impressive.

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Browsers are multiprocess so you could conceivably use MPI, which can spread across multiple machines.

4K HEVC and 1080p60 H.264 decode in hardware so probably.

Finally OoO cores on a sbc that isn't chinkshit, thank

Opteron A1100 systems are very nice too, but not quite SBCs. Check out the Softiron Overdrive 1000.

Yes I do. The rPi is superior to fly by night chinkshit like what you're shilling.

>Odroid
>fly by night chinkshit
first off, it's gookshit, secondly they've been making SBCs for as long as the Raspberry Pis have been out
again, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about

But they're not all just hooked together to get faster FPS in Minecraft or some stupid shit like that. They're serving web requests behind a load balancer, which is a massively parallelizable workload.
Being a webserver is a reasonable task for a pi. I just wish there were a pair of SATA ports. USB connected disks are gay.

This will be a GREAT HTPC option.

i am jealous, i wished those girls was playing with my butt

yes i do, i am not wanting the fastest desktop, not a gamer either, i want it for building raspberry pi apps, 4 in a cluster will compile faster than one distcc, or mercurial will do nicely

I guess I gotta pick up a pair of these, too.

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This, 2 hdmi for whatever reason. PASS.

Does N2 have a non kludge build of armbian yet?

can i use my 30" Apple Cinema Display with dual-dvi?

Nah. Storage is still USB only, and there's still no hardware video decoding for youtube since the GPU is a new version of the same Videocore. Get a x86 board.

If a HDMI 2.0 to DL-DVI converter exists, it probably costs as much as the Pi itself.

thx, user

>Finally botnet free
May I see the RYF certification, please?

Is there anyone here who has it? I've got an XU-4 with the passive heatsink but it's still running around 80° most of the time without much load at all. Does the N2 run a lot cooler compared to the XU-4 since it has crashed on me multiple times due too overheating? If so I'll probably get one.

you usually have to write software specifically for these kinds of applications.

USB3 > SATA2 for speed and Linux treats them alike.

how is the browsing? can you play youtube videos? if not then it's not worth it. i'll stick with my raspberry pi 3

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I am going to use mine as a NAS. Currently my HTPC does both tasks but its a power hog. Better to use the Pi as a server.

Just use the USB 3, holy moly

Why would you be watching Youtube on a webpage on an HTPC? There's so many frontends for that that just pull the h264 stream, which is hardware decoded.

I'd rather just get a 40 dollar optiplex and not deal with most the shit.

I too can't wait to get installing a GUI onto this for use only to deal with complete shit out of the box video drivers with fixes for anything "coming soon****"

I just need one to install pi hole don't be expensive.

>micro HDMI

*vomits*

Not every media some people will watch is on youtube?

>pi hole
Google has worked around pi holes for years now. You know they're obsolete right

t. brainlet who thinks USB3 is worse than Sata II

What would you even be powering the disk off of with SATA? Usb to SATA power? What's the difference vs a single USB 3 cable to a slim hard disk enclosure?

How would you expect one to fit 2 full sized HDMI ports on a board that size?

Oh boy can't wait for more wires unless I want to use a USB powered external drive that is either a high $ per GB crappy SSD or a dogshit slow HDD

>there's still no hardware video decoding for youtube

Please read before blindly responding.

>more wires

I too, use air-powered sata drives

The fuck are you talking about? I said not every media is on youtube you tard.

>I'd rather just get a 40 dollar optiplex and not deal with most the shit.
The point is that it is small and uses very little power. However, if you don't care about those, then yeah, the optiplex is awesome. I have 3 of them. And I also got a pi0w and now a pi4

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Shit that fits in a case that isn't all fugly around the desk or location I put the pi >>>>>>>> using shit usb to dangle everything around

Unless you live in europe or commiefornia the cost of running an optiplex with no external GPU is still fairly low.

Not saying i am not tempted to get one, it's just I know more people buying them, getting limited by the cpu/gpu or memory, then putting it in their desk draw only to go "oh yeah I bought one of those".

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>this image
>you didn't even read your own post before replying

oh the iron knee

Do you expect the Pi to take a high-powered input or something? I'm genuinely confused how you expect to power the drive.

>Unless you live in europe or commiefornia the cost of running an optiplex with no external GPU is still fairly low.
They (optiplexes) idle at around 15W each. Its actually pretty damn good compared to older machines. So actually... stop making me think about it. I want to enjoy my pi ok? Jeez. But in all seriousness, the pi will take up little room and I have a defined purpose for my 3 optiplexes anyway, so the Pi will be a perfect NAS for me.

this is bait, right?

>Case with USB-C 3.1
>runs into board that can output power for SSD or HDD and pi

A pi and a HDD could easily be powered over usb-c, laptops do it all the time now of days with way higher specs and power draws

Just buy a jetson nano.

>cluster
>desktop
see

So anyways, we're not talking about USB.

For users who expect a SATA port, which is what the conversation was about (if you had read it), a Pi is not going to be for you, because you'd need additional power from the PSU and more space on the board.

USB 3's only issue over SATA is that a drive can't just cleanly slide into a port and be fitted into a case. One could make a case though, and just use a short cable that can be bent right into the drive. We'll just have to see what cases come out, otherwise if you're looking for a full SATA port, you'd need to look at the ODROID line of products.

wrong
usb
i2c
bitbash
i/o morse code
etc
they all exist, retard

Just buy the jetson nano if u want that.

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yea but it was programmed to do it. not a vulnerability

Where do I buy RasPis from in Canada? THey are so expensive through resellers, nowhere near the retail price they advertise on the site.

>USB 3's only issue over SATA is that a drive can't just cleanly slide into a port and be fitted into a case.
Do you mean the problem with usb3 is the drive can't be physically hidden inside of a case? I'm not sure what you mean.

>For users who expect a SATA port, which is what the conversation was about (if you had read it), a Pi is not going to be for you, because you'd need additional power from the PSU and more space on the board.

All of which USB-C can provide with ease in terms of power, a sata port is not that big an issue to install.

In terms of cost and feature set, Pi's are not anything more than a toy nor desktop replacement like the OP implies or suggests.

take the dick hard canacuck should have lived in a better country

canakit.com should still have some in stock. there is also buyapi.ca. Those are the official sellers for Canada.

>In terms of cost and feature set, Pi's are not anything more than a toy nor desktop replacement like the OP implies or suggests.
We're talking about a 35 dollar computer here jesus fucking christ what do you expect? For the price its fantastic even if you have to buy some peripherals.

>We're talking about a 35 dollar computer here jesus fucking christ what do you expect?

Can get a 35 dollar optiplex that curb stomps it, it's not a desktop replacement like the topic in this thread is about.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying, because there has to be a cable, not just a header on the board that the drive slides into and is therefore hidden. It's a downside, sure, but it's not enough to make SATA II superior, and there's no way you're going to max out SATA on a Raspberry Pi.

Again, if you had read the conversation (you didn't), you would understand the argument is that USB sucks and SATA is better because "muh wires" and "I want my drive to be hidden"; which if you really *require* that, you need to be looking at ODROID products, not Raspberry Pi's.

>Can get a 35 dollar optiplex that curb stomps it, it's not a desktop replacement like the topic in this thread is about.
You're missing the point. But go ahead and dumpster dive. Nobody cares.

I feel you my dude but there's no need to get so douchey

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Point is the OP is wrong it's not a desktop replacement dumbass.

A $35 optiplex*

*physically much, much larger
*louder
*PCIe GPU required for 4K playback
*barely portable
*USB 3 not included

>Yeah, that's what I'm saying, because there has to be a cable, not just a header on the board that the drive slides into and is therefore hidden. It's a downside, sure, but it's not enough to make SATA II superior, and there's no way you're going to max out SATA on a Raspberry Pi.
Yeah, I'm not even remotely concerned about that as its a cosmetic issue. I'll be using a couple external drives or just a sata to usb adapter to mate an internal drive. Will be interesting to see if it will reliably power them on each usb3 port.

who cares about a clickbait title, its just an excuse to get people talking in the thread.

That's my point, this is a non-issue and honestly it works fine if you just stick the Pi on top of a USB 3 drive enclosure with velcro or something. It keeps it one contained package,, and there's only one cable to power the small drive anyway, so

>muh dangly cables

is a non-argument.

Or you go to a recycling centre and buy a Core2quad with 8gb of ram, a 500gb hard drive and a Windows license for $100.

agreed

core2quad is good but now we're getting into some ridiculous power draw if you compare them with cpu's even a few years newer. I have so many PCs that this actually probably affects my bill, so I would prefer not to use really old machines as continuously running servers.

>go to ebay
>get optiplex for 100 bucks
>i5, 8GB, 250-500GB hdd
>possibility to upgrade that ddr3 is cheap
>install KVM or find some community runs of esxi with the driver fixes built in
>run at least 3-4 VM's off it with CPU to spare/dick around with
>could also swap the drive and use it as a junk/play thing PC
>might draw 5-8 more dollars a month total for the electricity

for $100*

*pcie gpu for 4k displays and video playback not included
*wifi adapter not included
*bluetooth adapter not included
*USB 3 not included

by all means do that! They are great. I have a specific use for my pi, as a quiet little NAS, not to do a zillion other things.

Good thing Sata II is there for the HDD
USB 2.0 is fine unless you lack proper storage which e-Sata ports got you
USB 3.0 port is like 5 dollars for a PCI interfact
>4k
There are very few people who are going to want to run 4k on this device and do anything, not to mention the shit drivers that will take a good long while to become stable
>blutooh
grasping a straws and you know a blutooth USB thing is like 99c
ebay.com/itm/DELL-OPTIPLEX-7010-SFF-DESKTOP-COMPUTER-i5-QUAD-500GB-HD-WIN-7-PRO/192962238986?hash=item2ced721a0a:g:2pAAAOSwaDxc8S6z