Can we fix regular heatwaves and climate change in general with technology...

>contrarian
pick a thermodynamics book. did you read about that prehistoric wolf head they find in siberia? fucking prehistoric niggers and their global warming, amirite? humans can't do shit about climate cycles.

euros dont usually have access to AC and also don't drive as often and need to use transit outdoors or in public transit that easily overheats

You know that climate change isnt supposed to happen in a span of decennia right? Natural climate change happens over the course of thousands of years.

Can confirm, am European. But this is not just the current state, it's been like this every year. That said in the last 10 years our summers got hotter and hotter without exceptions.
i don't really care about that stuff at all, it's pretty safe to say by now that humans did make have an impact on our climate since industrialization. which isn't the end of the world, but certainly not beneficial for us. i'm not saying that we're completely at fault for rising temperatures or changing climate, in fact climate is never not changing.

Every fucking year with this shit. Every year it';s just as hot as it was last year, every year Euros panic and raise taxes for some retarded reason, and every year they don't install air conditioning like a bunch of serfs. How long does it take for their air conditioning permit to get approved by Mama Merkel anyway? Isn't there a waiting list?

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Humidity. 36°C in western europe feels like damn near 50°C

Freedom land has this all the time, you euros just need to suck it up

Dont bother user he is bought by Gods chosen

the problem is cost. europeans don't have the same disposable income as americans, and then on top of that electricity is a lot more expensive so AC is much more expensive to run. on top of on top of that, there are many europeans who live in areas with really old houses that are much harder to retro-fit for AC. all of these things together with some other minor problems, and then add in the fact that many areas would only really need AC for a few weeks anyways, mean that most simply never get AC.

>certainly not beneficial for us
Canada and Russia defrosting and revealing vast amounts of new farmland is very beneficial.

my position stands. climate changes and there jack shit humans can do. one massive volcano eruption, one asteroid, earth is gone. of course if gooks dump acid on the oceans we all should complain, but life simply would adapt.

I saw this documentary on television about the USAian southrons. They used a clever invention called the "African" to fan them and they drank chilled beverages, including beer, to reduce their body temperature.

It's called geoengineering, it's almost entirely theoretical, may very well be the only way of stopping climate change and hippies are already mad about and protesting against it

Sucks to be them

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Yes. Of course. Like all things it just comes down to economic forces. Short story is it hasn't been a substantial economical issue, but it's kind of starting to be in select areas.

These environmental level cockups happen all the time throughout history. Europe has no forests, the dust bowl happened, seas have been drained and accidentally created, whales were nearly fished to extinction.

The only differences with this one is (a) it's slightly more global than the others and nobody trusts their neighbors and (b) people created a religion out of scientists speaking about topics outside of their fields and as we all know scientists are complete morons when talking about anything other than the extremely narrow breadth of their 30 year research studies.

corresponds with trump escalating a trade war
also ignoring environmental concerns

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the continent is drying up user. It should be a bright shade of green in the summer. Pic related looks like fucking africa or some shit.

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Never used AC in my entire life outside of cars and my family has always been quite comfortably off.
It's almost a cultural thing, AC for houses is just really uncommon outside of capital cities as far as I can tell.

Oh no, a drought. Must mean my taxes need to go up and I'm not allowed to buy gasoline anymore.

I remember when California's drought was declared "permanent" too. And then it didn't stop raining for two years straight.

Hippies are fucking retarded if the world would've gone nuclear around the 70's this problem wouldn't have existed.

Then why do they complain every year when the exact same thing happens? Are they all 10 second Tom over there? Do they not teach what seasons are?

nah cars still would have done it, just slower
boomers did fuck up the entire planet though lol, they aren't going to be remembered well by history

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if you want to know what humidity actually is try going to Japan.

>tfw we could've had nuclear powered cars if it weren't for hippie boomers

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Climate clearly isn't as it was during our childhood. Continental Europe is like GB now and of course people will complain before adapting.

We certainly can try, but we will end fucking up shit even more.

winter comes very slowly, it gets colder and colder and colder... then it gets a little warmer, slowly.. but then when the legit summer comes, it's kind of sudden. people aren't prepared for the heat. and so, every year, it feels hotter than you remember from last year.

Not really it is simpler to adapt. We may be able to mitigate some of it but at some great cost. There were some proposals to deliberately alter the atmospheric composition but obviously that would need widespread approval and we won't get that until well after the crisis point.

Yes, there's several ways we could cool down the planet. They are all extremely expensive.

- Launch a big mylar mirror to the Earth-Sun L1 Lagrange point to block some sunlight - good for terraforming Venus but probably overkill for Earth.
- Release sulfides in the upper atmosphere to simulate a volcanic eruption and block sunlight - probably our best option but the effect only lasts a few years
- Sprinkle iron or other fertilizers into the ocean to cause an algae bloom, removing carbon from the atmosphere and leaving it on the ocean floor - cheap but slow, only effective in the long term and you need to keep doing it every year
- Scrub CO2 out of air by using pumps to force it through permeable membranes, similar to how water makers work - needs so much electricity that we would need fusion for this technique to be viable

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nice comeback, bruh. i tip my fedora to you, you won. gg

make a very large tube that extends into outer space. since space is a vacuum, it sucks out all the air from earth.

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You realise that if the methane trapped under siberia ever gets released we will be pretty much be irreversibly fucked right?

I wasn't any of the people you were talking to previously so it's not a comeback, but you seriously are retarded. What is it about CO2 release in large quantities changing the composition of the atmosphere and making it more difficult for heat to escape thus raising global temperature averages is so difficult for you to understand?

We will have to burn it to CO2 and water.

in addition, sea levels will rise, and what do we get? some farm land, wow, JUST what we needed (actually just what we have way more than we could ever need, on a global scale)

>nihilism

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You can't just do farming everywhere.
The soil need to be rich to be possible to sustain several crops.

>Humidity. 36°C in western europe feels like damn near 50°C

Pfft stay away from the US then. Philadelphia has 37°C heatwaves with 100% humidity atleast twice a year. Buy a fucking window AC like a sentient human being in the US.

>global
Oh good, it's a globalist shill. Most of the world's untapped farmland potential is in Africa which is held hostage by niggers.

>Buy a fucking window AC
They're probably illegal in the socialist utopia of europe

Nothing the ruskies haven't done before

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yeah no shit, if the soil is shit it's not farmland, it's a desert.
doesn't matter: the farmland that is used right now, in just europe and america, is enough to feed a population of 20 billion people. even more if we didn't have people crying about GMO and shit

We don't need more niggers and spics thank you very much.

let them in

So the Earth warms up and the Frozen steppe areas start growing trees that siphon out all of the carbon from the environment and induces another ice age as the trees dont stop siphoning out carbon until they're forcibly killed by newly forming ice caps and colder envrionment. Trees fall over and get buried by dirt and become fossil fuels over millions of years. This has all happened before and will happen again.

Perhaps not a bad idea:
scientificamerican.com/article/turn-methane-into-co2-to-reduce-warming-experts-propose/

Doesn't the planet want to vomit us out at this point? I can't see a positive outcome unless humanity has an epiphany and private interests no longer run the world overnight.
The main issue isn't even that we can't save ourselves, it's that the question of preventing a global catastrophe through technique can't even be brought to the table because saving mankind has to generate profit first, and not only that but it has to generate more profit than any other endeavor that could use the time and the funds instead even if those don't buy us a future. Honestly, we asked for it.

Actually, its a bit more complex than that.
There are land where the rich soil is thicc as fuck, and soil where there's only a thin layer, like on the amazon forest.
So despite the place not being a desert ,if you try to plant there, your first crop will do just fine, but then shit will stop growing and will eventually turn into a desert.

Remove profit and the shit will keep the same. Greed have many names.

Combine that with pic related and we might have a viable solution

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I live in canada so I figure we'll be fine from global warming and then america will be our southern border wall, they'll probably cuck us like they usually do but that's ok

The iron fertilization was actually attempted in the Pacific Northwest in 2012. It was successful in causing an algae bloom but I don't know how much carbon was removed from the atmosphere or how much the operation cost.

theguardian.com/environment/2012/oct/15/pacific-iron-fertilisation-geoengineering

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I hope you guys take the California/Texas/Florida refugees. We don't want them.

Why don't we just make a temperature limit similarly to how there's a speed limit and send the sun to prison if it violates it?

Whoops I should have turned on data smoothing, my bad.

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I'm pretty sure they'll clog up the midwest and montana as well as new england, you guys don't realize how much shittier living in canada is you don't really want to come here

Yes, we can launch a solar shade into orbit at the L1 point between the sun and earth. Done, solved forever.

Same would work for Venus. Once the planet cools, a majority of the atmosphere will condense and go back to a more human friendly atmospheric pressure. Someone just needs to fucking do it.

Perhaps if we got rid of all those rapacious European-descended yahoos there'd be room.

L1 point is unstable, but I bet you could use the solar wind for station keeping. Like they did with the Kepler Space Telescope, but intentionally. It could all be electrically powered and need no fuel, just haul in or redeploy sections of the mirror.

>> Be Morgan Industries
>> Planetary Council
>> Raise Solar Shade
Global cooling, drop those sea levels.

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block out the sun

>no mention of nuclear
Sigh

>Engineer giant, continent spanning aqueduct and water storage system
>Transport water from the ocean and desalinate it over the course of the aqueducts
>????
>Profit

>lowering the temperature on a global scale.

Stop buying Intel products that consume 500w

The only solution that everyone on Jow Forums can do right now.

call my idea crazy, but I once thought if all else fails, detonate hydrogen bombs in remote mountains far away from populated areas to send particulates up high.
kind of an artificial krakatoa. temporarily until we find more permanent solutions.
of course you'd need international cooperation, figuring out how to do this as cleanly as possible (lead tamper instead of uranium), how big of a yield, and who wants to do the detonation, who wants to host it, what kind of rocks are we blasting (that matters too I would think. blast the wrong rocks and you could have a bigger problem on your hands).
and maybe we need more than one blast.

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or just flood the eye of the sahara like we should have done 100 years ago

Hitting 36C once or twice a summer isn't the issue.
A heatwave is defined as multiple days in a week above something like 35C and are serious issues where people have to spend large amounts of time outdoors.
There are always some deaths caused by heatwaves and they are a serious issue for food production, too. Water consumption for irrigation increases a lot, livestock need cooling, shade, more water, etc

>muh temps are hot!
>muh global warming!

Why would that have any effect on the climate?

>increasing trend of high temperatures and severe weather
>muh global warming

>heatwave
>not even one place in yurop reach 40ºC

Why are Euros such a fucking climate pussies? Where i live we have 44~49ºC in summer and that's pretty normal, here we even have no electricity and we just pass it by with going near a river or staying in the shadow.

And with cold the same now on winter we are at -8ºC and that's the most warm one in years as usually is -15ºC by now, while this cunts not even at 0ºC they are crying like little bitches from the cold.

Do you live in a desert?

>Can we fix regular heatwaves and climate change in general with technology

i dont know find a tech that
>can stop the sun minima and maxima
>can stop the earth tilt
>can stop earthquakes
>can stop erruption
>can stop tectonic plates
>can stop so2
>can stop agriculture
>can stop cows farting

90% of the stuff that causes the climate change is out of our reach no matter how much you reduce co2 or other shit the earth will still get warmer untill the day antartic mid glaciers start to melt
when this happens the earth will be doomed
and by earth i mean humans

Artificial mountains and replanting forests + making swamps, aka returning to how Europe looked like even 1k years ago, before medieval Euros started cutting everything down and draining the water. Whole Germany and Poland and UK were one huge forest swamp.

>heatwave
lmao it's actually colder than usual here in Portugal

>can stop agriculture
>can stop cows farting
Only these have relevance to the current climate change, though.
See the thing is that the Sun is currently around minima, the tilt is not conducive to warming at this time, eruptions are fairly regular, and have remained so for centuries, tectonic plates and earthquakes are basically the same issue but also not connected to current climate change and
>About 99% of the sulfur dioxide in air comes from human sources.

> in Portugal
Heatwaves are regional. There can be a heatwave in one place and not in another.

it's possible but i don't know if it will happen for a while. it probably will happen sometime in the future

Not speaking for the rest of Europe, but in my country (Netherlands) we had 84% humidity with 34C celcius yesterday. It's not that the 34c is a particularly high temperature, it's the sea climate that really sucks. I've felt 45c in Afghanistan that felt more comfortable than 30c in The Netherlands. But yeah, you just gotta cope and learn to live with it. I've already bought an AC last year and I don't regret it at all.

U don't say. Rest assured, in 1 or 2 months we will have one and half our forests will burn as usual.

t. literally lives in a forest fire

Put a giant solar sail into orbit to block out the sun

lol they gonna burn in france

oh wait no the won't since they are all black now

>Philadelphia has 37°C heatwaves with 100% humidity atleast twice a year

Yes that sounds the right place to stay away from

yeah, literally burning right now
my current state of heat-induced delirium finds that pretty funny as well

if there is no immediate profit that large companies can appropriate while research being funded by our taxes, no.

the only possibility left is to reduce population. do your part, kys

>current climate change

thats literally bullshit
>sun is at its minima
missed the whole point and just focus on what it does now
>the tilt is not conducive to warming
oh yeah ofc seasons are a program of MKULTRA
>erruptions are fairly regular
maybe you should read about the VEI index if you think small erruptions are the problem
the last great erruption in the modern times was mt pinatubo a vei 6 and it caused a shit lot of problems for about 3-4 years afterwards
but the last great erruption in human history happened in santorini which they theorize it cause massive drops on the temperature for about 10 years and in between it had some flukes of even reaching 55c in mainland europe at summer season..
> tectonic plates and earthquakes are basically the same issue
do you even know what the fuck are you talking about?
great earthquakes have planetary effects but they strike every 9 to 10 years..
tectonic movement is literally what gives us life without it the co2 levels would have been like venus and no life would have existed in the first place its the reason snowball earth has happened at least 7 times(from the epica and vostoc cores data) because the land masses gathered around the equator and thus the poles had practicly no regulators to stop the cold deep currents on the ocean to reach on the sub and equator
they are ALWAYS connected

>About 99% of the sulfur dioxide in air comes from human sources.

maybe research a bit before you copy paste bullshit especially when the only human related space that so2 exists now is the shipping industry
so2 hasnt being released in the air from humans since the 60s