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Because brand name A was dominating the market so badly for more than a decade, that it got extremely complacent, lazy, and arrogant, due to the state of becoming tyranny that started milking and chocking it's own fanbase. And now it's all over, because the underdog brand name B arose and is seriously finally kicking brand name A's ass all over the place, thus brand name B is people's champion, people's savior.

don't have to, it's not intel ;^)

Ohnononononono

i just want jews to lose money, but knowing them they probably shorted intel a long time ago

Jesus Christ is Lord and truth.

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>on 2 of those 3 tests, the 7960x beats not only its 18-core sibling, but also the refreshes of both these chips
What the heck, Skylake-X? Does Intel just get so few intact 18-cores of decent quality out of their monolithic die approach that the best 16-cores end up OC'ing so much better than the best 18-cores?

I think it's because there's nmo 9980XE entries in R20 or Geekbench 4, not that 7960X is better. Maybe there is, I dunno, but so far it seems like 7960X was holding onto the record only because there was nothing else tested right until Zen 2 came. However, even IF 9980XE gets tested in R20 and Geekbench 4, and it beats 7960X, it clearly still loses to 3950X already, which is downright MISERABLY LAUGHABLE.

It's been the case for a long ass time that intel has had a tangible lead in many of the segments. They grew a following. Now people are 'countering' that. They like to make fun of the brand loyalty.

I bet we're gonna have the same problem again eventually. But hopefully this dispels these sheep so we can finally more forward again.

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shut up goy

It's amazingly hilarious and downright laughable how "suddenly" silent all of the Inturd shill have gone. They're literally bamboozled to the other end of galaxy and them some, right now.

They aren't silent.

They're spamming the memory latency test as if it matters and are claiming it will increase "input latency".
They lose in actual programs so they don't care about those anymore.

>1.77 volts
>5.4Ghz

>LN2
>5.4Ghz

Pffft wtf haha AMD get your shit together

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The prior 5.2ghz LN2 run took over 1.6v too. Zen2 won't have any OC overhead beyond raising base clocks.
Its mildly concerning. Its likely that the XFR state will require a stupidly high stock vcore again. We might see those 3950Xs requiring 1.5v to hit 4.7ghz.

Sure man just break some world record on an air cooler.

4.7 is stock all-core boost, you dumb fuck. That won't go anywhere near even 1.45v, because at idle the CPU operates way below 1.0

>4.7 is stock all-core boost
No its not, guy. AMD lists their XFR as their boost freq for every Zen SKU. That is the highest pstate the chips have, they cannot go above it, and XFR is always higher than sustained multi core turbo states.
XFR is only achieved on 1-2 cores and only in very short bursts.

Don't try talking out of your ass when you're this totally clueless.

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Rip intcel

Imagine 5nm/7nm++ hitting those clocks on air
Intcel are fucked 16c+ at 5ghz+

Not him, but how do you know what the all-core boost is? AMD does not clearly specify this as far as I know, they only specify the maximum which is not sustainable across all cores usually.

Nobody in the real world cares about synthetic benchmarks.

>Zen+
We're talking about Zen 2 here, you dipshit.
Also
>TPU, the ill-known Inturd shills
Nice job at completely BTFOing yourself into irrelevance, dipshit.

wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-3000-zen-2-cpu-5-ghz-overclock-4-5-ghz-all-core-boost/

7nm EUV will bring a mild power reduction to Zen 3, maybe a moderate improvement to base clocks as well. The limiting factor here has to be part of the architecture itself. Voltage scaling being this extreme just to get slightly beyond 5ghz is an issue with critical path timing.

Sherlock, Zen1 and "Zen+" are on that graph, and trying to claim they're a biased source is beyond pathetic.
Sustained all core boost pstates aren't higher than XFR. You should just read about XFR before you keep shitposting, because this is embarrassing.
It is the highest attainable pstate on the chip, and that is what AMD lists as their boost frequency for every SKU they have.

>wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-3000-zen-2-cpu-5-ghz-overclock-4-5-ghz-all-core-boost/
>posts completely irrelevant pakistanti article

nice

TDP is a heatsink performance specification, and is grouped out based on acceptable operating temperature limits.
For example:
I have three 6-core CPUs all the same architecture and lithography node.

One is rated for 50watts TDP and runs at 3Ghz
Two is rated at 65 watts TDP and runs at 3.2Ghz
Three is also rated at 65w TDP and runs at 3.6Ghz

CPU 1 uses 45 electric watts at 100%,
CPU 2 uses 57.5,
CPU 3 uses 72.5

They all fit into their thermal TDP envelope but their electrical draw is different than the thermal TDP rating.
As a real world example, the 1800X was rated for 95w TDP but was shown to use about 110 watts average - 15 more electric watts than the TDP rating.
If we take this same ratio and put it on the 3950X:
>105w TDP = 120w electrical
There's a simple formula to calculate the power increase from an overclock
> watts * (Overclock / Stock) * sqr(Overclock Voltage / Stock Voltage)
The 3950X probably runs about 4.2Ghz all-core boost on stock if we get a 4.5Ghz single core boost on stock, like the 1800 and 2700.
So,
>120*(5400/4200)*sqr(1.77/1.35)=
>265watts
i.e. to overclock 1200Mhz or 28% Zen2 needs 2.2x more power

Kind of sad if true we were all hoping for more.

>Can Overclock To 5 GHz Single & 4.5 GHz All Core
BTFO by your own link you retarded piece of shit.

OH NO NO NO NO NOO

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>3 threads have more frequency than 4 threads
i tough it was 1 core = 2 threads, so how do they have different frequency on the same core but different threads?
am i retarded?

>Zen1 and "Zen+" are on that graph
That is the point, you DUMB fuck. Zen 2 is different (way better) and your pic is irrelevant garbage shit now.

Keep seething, Intbecile.

1 core using both threads + 1 core using 1 thread. So the 2nd core is using less power and it lets the chip clock both a little bit higher.

You said >4.7 is stock all-core boost
And then posted A link that says they had to overclock for the all-core to only be 4.5Ghz

So the reality is the 3950X all-core out of the box is probably closer to 4.2Ghz
And you're a retard.

>I can't make a logical argument, all I can do is have an infantile tantrum
AMD's marketing strategy didn't just radically change, kid. AMD lists the boost frequency as 4.7ghz because thats the highest clock the chip can achieve stock, that is its XFR pstate. That isn't all core boost, it doesn't have an XFR state higher than 4.7ghz.
The article you linked literally does not back up your baseless assertions in any way. At all.

No one who posts Pakistani clickbait rumor mill articles has an IQ above room temp.

makes sense in this case

4.7 stock boost on all cres is OFFICIAL CONFIRMED SPEC FOR 3950X, you DUMB fuck. The article is about Zen 2 in GENERAL. Meaning 3600X, 3700X, and all that other shit. 3950X is hand-picked best bin golden samples only. I told you already - fucking go and slit your wrists right this very instant, you cocksucking IMBECILE.

it's our savior until it becomes the new tyrant and we start cheering for brand A again.

>OFFICIAL CONFIRMED SPEC FOR 3950X
Where did you find these specs? Post a link where somebody from AMD officially confirms 4.7GHz is all-core boost.

Why would somebody do that? Just go and post lies, on the internet?

>4.7 stock boost on all cres is OFFICIAL CONFIRMED SPEC FOR 3950X, you DUMB fuck.
No its not. This spec exists nowhere but in your low IQ autistic mind.
4.7ghz is the XFR pstate. All core boost will be significantly lower.

I bet you're a very ugly person. The mentally ill are usually ugly also.

Can we rangeban this retarded russian already. He got btfo in his navi thread and decided to shitpost elsewhere.

because all previous zens did it? they specifically say "precision boost" when it's one or two cores

>because all previous zens did it?
No they don't. 2700X has 4.3GHz specified as "Max Boost Clock" on AMD's own site and that CPU does not do 4.3GHz all-core out of the box.

>because all previous zens did it?
That is literally the exact opposite of the truth, you retarded little kid. Every single Zen1 or Zen+ SKU has the XFR frequency listed for its boost.
The 1800X does not sustain 4.1ghz on all cores, that is its XFR state.
The 2700X does not sustain 4.35ghz on all cores, that is its XFR state.
etc, etc

Talking in circles when you've already been shown to be objectively wrong makes it seem like you have a legitimate mental illness. Trying to convince an unmedicated nutjob of anything is pointless.
Go shitpost on /x/ where your kind belongs.

>1.776v
Nice LN

I think some posters got mixed up in who they thought they were replying to
Take a chill pill frens

all records are done with LN

KEK. GOODBYE INTEL.

Yeah I know, but here's to hoping lower level skus can hit close to 4.7ghz on manageable 1.4v

Better wait for Zen3

notice question mark?
for example my 1600x does 3.8 boost all core and 4.0 xfr no specified core number
it's separated in specs. I thought it's same deal here.

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>X370
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew

WTF are you on about Satan?

The specs come from the same place where his claims that TSMC allocated 80% of their wafers exclusively to amd come, and nvidia will never release 7nm gpu in the forseeable future.
It was enetrating at first, but his insane drivel is tiring now.

>it's separated in specs
AMD will only list XFR for their boost frequency because its the biggest number.

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>Breaks Its Own World Record in Cinebench

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Try not to get too excited on single core.

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You seem to be new here, we used to shit on AMD and Nvidia just like this all the time, when Bullshitdozer and Thermi was still a thing.

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They do not say whether they are using the stock cooler though. But yeah I get your point.

do that again with all the security patches on.

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Heh. I can't wait for the HUB review and all the Inturds accusing them of shilling. I'm going to need a very large bucket of popcorn.

>It does not matter if it is matching or beating the 9900K in single core
Yes, it literally does

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Cinebench R15: Ryzen 9 3950X @ 5434 points (Previous WR: Core i9-9960X @ 5320 points)
Cinebench R20: Ryzen 9 3950X @ 12167 points (Previous WR: Core i9-7960X @ 10895 points)
Geekbench 4: Ryzen 9 3950X @ 65499 points (Previous WR: Core i9-7960X @ 60991points)

The i9 9900k also has no stock cooler at all.

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I'm on your side. I deleted it and shall reword it.

The fact that this is matching the 9900K at lower TDP and most likely on the supplied stock cooler is very telling. Put a decent cooler on the 3900X, finalised BIOS firmwares, new chipset drivers (plus Win10 1903) and watch it fly. Unlike Intel housefires that fry.

You're literally pasting a text with typo, dumbass. It's not 9960X, but 9980XE.

mentally ill dumbfuck

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yes you are. 4.7Ghz is single core boost. all core will be 4.4 or less, most likely less. go be dumb somewhere else
t.Ryzen owner

Hard to agree when Intel kikery has been prevalent for decades. They can have another Sandy Bridge moment and I would still doubt them.

AMD is competing with themselves

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Any of the mobo guys release their Zen 2 BIOS yet? If so, then I would be nervous considering a x370 Taichi doesn't have it yet.

>he's a retard for owning an amd cpu
I agree that amd is for "special" people like yourself.

how come they didn't manage to raise the frequencies on a process literally half the size of ryzen 1xxx. Later ryzen 1 models could hit 4 ghz quite easily, so how come ryzen 3000 isn't boosting past 4.4-4.5 ghz?
So now they have finally managed to equal intel in ipc (depending on workload) but their clockspeeds are still terrible compared to 14+++++++++

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kek, this is gonna rustle a lot of jimmies

Zen 2 is so close and people are still buying predominantly Ryzen lmoa

amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Computer-CPU-Processors/zgbs/electronics/229189

amazon.ca/Best-Sellers-Electronics-CPU-Processors/zgbs/electronics/1233052011

amazon.co.uk/Best-Sellers-Computers-Accessories-Processors/zgbs/computers/430515031

amazon.com.au/gp/bestsellers/computers/4913338051

amazon.de/gp/bestsellers/computers/430177031

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Didn't you say it was gonna be 5ghz boost before? :^)

you realize rest of the world isn't as autistic as this very place?

But why the fuck would you buy zen+ when zen2 comes out in a week?

>adoretard claims which were already officially refuted still in wojak macro
Nice job BTFOing yourself, retard.

Already pointed out. Clocks being limited by insane voltage requirements apparently wasn't an artifact of Samsung's 14LPP being developed primarily for low clocking ARM cores. Its a critical path timing issue in the Zen core thats holding clocks back and its still the same story with Zen2. If they can reach 4.7ghz for XFR then they can clearly reach 4.4 or 4.5ghz all core, but its a matter of with how much voltage, and at what level of power consumption.
They can be stable at those clocks, but fitting it inside of a 105/95w TDP is an entirely different story.

I'm sure the situation will slightly improve as production goes on, they might squeeze out another 100-200mhz. intel isn't really in that much of a better position themselves. They have a core arch that can scale above 5ghz as power and cooling allows, but the power requirements for them are fucking extreme. No one cares if the i9 9900k cna hit 5.4ghz when it pulls 400w while doing so.

Why would you want every normie out there to buy zen2 on launch day/week? There'll only be shortages and months long wait time for autistic fucks like you and nothing to gain.