Senior Trump administration officials want to ban the end-to-end encryption, according to a report by Politico on a National Security Council meeting that took place earlier this week. The encryption challenge, called “going dark”, was discussed with officials from key agencies, including FBI, Department of Justice, Commerce and State Departments. There was no final decision, but the report suggests the issue will not stay in the background for much longer.
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This is ridiculous. Ron Paul 2020.
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It might finally be habbening.
They cant even ban school shootings
they can discuss it all they want, but it will never happen because you can't ban ciphertext without infringing on the first amendment
holy shit are they retarded
I'm amazed they even think this is possible.
Bernie 2020.
And so the undernet begins.
Can't happen.
Won't happen
Unenforceable.
Post something that is actually relevant.
> dumbass says x is going to happen
> never happens
Fake news
>Democrat suggests internet regulation
>Jow Forumsg/ goes crazy about the end of the free world
>Republitard suggests internet regulation
>Jow Forumsg/ writes it off as not going to happen
That's how governments work. And this is not retarded.
Would this include HTTPS?
Truly worst fucking timeline.
Actually wouldn't mind this control freak dystopia if I wasn't flooded with disgusting niggers and smelly pajeets.
Feel sick.
>Bernie 2020.
voting for a senile old man that wants to import millions of immigrants and give them all healthensurrance?
are you fucking retarded? (rhetorical question)
thats not Merkel you fucking idiot, the image of her would be blurry because of her shaking (due to Kuru)
Trump hasn’t done fucking anything. What makes you think this is any different?
>healthensurrance
>calls others retarded.
Bernie is better than all of the other corporatist candidates besides maybe Yang and Warren.
1st and 4th amendments
Ytcracker called it on Introducing Neals
Bye bye encryption. Providers are going to have to license encryption aka using unlicensed encryption is going to be illegal. Sad times.
have you ever seen him murmuring shit when someone asks him how he is going to pay for it?
He actually did it yesterday.
>stick it to Wallstreet
>90% tax rates
Who the fuck will work or stay in your shitty multi culti country if you tax them 90%?
He is a fucking retard, and people supporting him are even bigger retards.
O SAY CAN YOU SHART, IN THE LOCAL WALMART
>he is too young to remember the Patriot Act
Just give me access to nuclear weapon.
>What is the patriot Act
>What is NDAA
They already shit all over your precious constitution without giving a fuck moron.
You can't just ban encryption. It doesn't work like that.
Next thing you know they'll be banning things like paper and talking to people in person.
>You can't just ban encryption. It doesn't work like that.
you could fine servers who can't decrypt the userdata...
Amendments literally don't matter if they don't want them to.
*companies, not servers
Doubt it
Seems like more antiTrump media shit
the 2nd guarantees the rest
Your lack of balls foils the 2nd.
>t. assmad eurofag with limited access to butter knifes
Yeah except all you do is talk shit and never to anything as they strip your rights away.
The BTC rises
you start then
The most prosperous time in american history was when the highest tax bracket was 90%.
Project harder. I'm from México. I've seen and done more shit than you, and I'm currently in the process of anexing your country. This is why I know you better than anyone to say that you have a big mouth and no balls. Any queer can type "hurr duhrr me with muh guns and shieet".
That is observably untrue.
I love how you made this thread without reading the last sentence of the fucking article you retard
Nobody paid 90% back then because there were so many tax loopholes.
Wall Street speculation tax, which taxes shit which produces nothing for the economy.
But why would he need to pay for something which will save the US trillions even according to Koch funded studies?
Also, I'm pretty sure his answer on that particular issue is higher taxes. Which, to be clear, will net save people money since they won't have to pay for private insurance anymore, worrying about deductibles and co-pays, etc.
Have brain dead are you out of curiousity? Do you research any issue you find interesting at all? Or do you just blindly listen to bloggers and right wing/corporate democrat/MSM commentators?
mexico español cojones
You misspelled Bill Weld.
>The most prosperous time in american history was when the highest tax bracket was 90%.
yes, but globalism wasn't a thing back then. Try taxing Apple with 90%, they'll just move all their revenue to Ireland where they already have their headquarters.
lmao ok then cartel carlos, you people sure have balls for killing children and women that I'll never have
Moving to another country isn't like moving to another state, user.
There still are. The wealthy still paid a higher share then and it discouraged the monopolies that are ruining everything now.
they are already there. As well as Google and many other Silicon giants.
>Which, to be clear, will net save people money since they won't have to pay for private insurance anymore, worrying about deductibles and co-pays, etc
You should try living in a country with socialised healthcare, I have lived in UK, Canada and NZ, countries with the "best" socialised healthcare. Guess what? Everyone who cares about not dying buys health insurance anyway because the systems are such total shit, those aren't right wing memes about death lists and asprin for cancer patients, it's fucking real.
Wait, Bernie has never proposed 90% tax rates, not even a marginal tax rate (which is taxation on everything above a certain number, which is something else entirely).
You lie, user. I've caught you. Now what?
What, exactly, would be lost? They'd still (unfortunately?) sell and operate in america and we'd bring in revenue from that. If apple had less of a presence here, that'd mean more room for new and undoubtedly more innovative companies to move in.
Didn't apple go like a decade without paying taxes anyway?
>what was the ITAR?
>what was Bernstein v United States?
>millions of immigrants
Millions of consumers!
>give them all health insurance
Millions of jobs in the health industry!
Why are you mentioning those things as if they were bad?
>Who the fuck will work or stay in your shitty multi culti country if you tax them 90%?
Oh, so NOW you care about the workers?
The truth is, rentism and usury aren't work. Get fucked, kike!
>Yang
>"trust me, those high paying manufacturing jobs are not coming back, laowai! tariffs can't change that!"
>"here, just take this money bag and forget about all the manufacturing moving to China while I remove all tariffs on Chinese products"
>"heh heh, stupid laowai!"
Obvious Chinese plant is obvious.
>Millions of consumers!
consumers that are a net burden to the government.
If you want consumers, why not increase the wealth of your own citizens instead of importing new ones you fucking shill?
Also, what about the competition? Lurking some of /g threads, most of you fucks are unemployed blaming poor Pajeet for being more cost-effective than you.
B-but Bernie g-gave away that stage (which wasn't his) that one time!
Y-you commies!
>Pajeet
>Cost effective
No, they are cheaper, not more cost effective. There is a difference.
>If you want consumers, why not increase the wealth of your own citizens instead of importing new ones you fucking shill?
But wealth redistribution is a primary part of his plan, user.
>Also, what about the competition?
What about the extra demand that all those consumers will generate, user? Their presence has the potential to create much more jobs than they'll take.
dude, historically the gov't has never been able to tax more than 15% of income. this applies today. monopolies that we have today are coercive monopolies - getting rid of ridiculous regulations caused by fear mongering (including anti free market bullshit like patents) is the way to fix it
Even in the absolute worst memes about socialized health care, paying for health care if you can and getting government coverage if you can't is strictly better than paying for health care if you can and getting fucked if you can't. And of course the right wing memers never want to bring up the issue of how valuable cheap and easy access to preventative care is.
First of all, I am from Europe. You are doing the same mistakes Germany did and you will pay for it out of your own pocket.
>before mass immigration, minimum wage in Germany was 1800 EUR
>now they don't have a minimum wage
now, if you plan on earning your living, I wouldn't vote for an open border socialist. Open borders benefit only large corporation, since it decreases the labour cost.
>getting rid of ridiculous regulations caused by fear mongering (including anti free market bullshit like patents) is the way to fix it
Let's do both.
The only way to end this bullshit is to secede from the union.
Can you retarded fat Americans ever stop talking about countries as though you actually know about them?
Germany has only had minimum wage since 2014, and currently it's 9,19€/h. Neither have we had a minimum wage, nor have we lost it, much less to immigration.
Source: I'm German, you fucking dipstick. Now shut your fucking retard hole.
>paying for health care if you can and getting government coverage if you can't is strictly better than paying for health care if you can and getting fucked if you can't
Wow I sure do love having my wages garnished and paying twice for healthcare instead of a system to provide absolute basic life saving assistance to legitimately poor people.
>Preventative care
You don't get this in socialised systems, unless you have something actively and seriously wrong you get told to fuck off and go pay for your GP to do it. You might get a token pap smear or prostate test every 5 years or some shit but that's it.
Why do Americans never have any clue what they are talking about?
You've got that backwards, retard. Taxes can be raised when the country is going gangbusters, and must be lowered when people are barely making bread and milk. Raising taxes doesn't magically make the economy go faster, it dampens it.
Do you know literally anything about economics? Why do you think we're doing so well and wages are so high in the states compared to European countries with their enormous taxes? Do you think that if there isn't a single powerhouse titan nation in the west, that China won't instantly steamroll the entire thing and turn the planet into bug people?
>which produces nothing for the economy
You have to consider things more carefully than what they simply appear to be doing at first glace. Once you [hopefully] do, you'll quickly realize that speculation is absolutely necessary for any market, capitalistic or otherwise, to function beyond immediate trade.
>we're doing so well
So why are you all in debt, and why does your housing market keep skyrocketing and crashing?
They won't stop functioning with that tax proposal. Like at all.
Hes less about immigration, more about raising taxes. He wanted less immigrants than hillary. I'm totally against his crazy ideas though. If I wanted to live in europe I'd live in europe.
How can you even enforce this? I won't comply
Bernie has mentioned that cutting the number of skilled immigrants (H1Bs) would be better for American workers. He's not an immigration shill.
GET DOWN ON THE GROUND
You mean regulations and IP laws?
Cutting off your hand won't stop you functioning, but is nevertheless a somewhat undesirable course of action.
Too bad hes an anti white shill and against every single white living here and shilling his kike nonsense.
Fuck him. I'd only vote for a proper national socialist not him
>unironically being American in 2019
stfu Hans, you are getting BTFO by other EU countries with less immigration.
I wont even speak about your birthrates. You are a literal cuckold.
Wow lawyer user knows so much! Lol fag kys.
Oh no, it's a graph with lines on them! How can I possibly come back from this?!
I didnt choose to be born here.
I'm not encrypting my message. I'm sending random data and the burden of proof is on you.
>the burden of proof is on you
Nope. When in doubt, American courts tend to side with law enforcement agencies. Cops regularly get off the hook for killing people, why do you think you'd be immune from sentencing?
Enjoy your indefinite detainment without trial or representation as you undergo "enhanced interrogation"
I don't believe you user, therefore the burden of proof is on you to prove that you're not actually hiding CP in there.
This literally happened though to some black dude and he's still in jail for not handing over his encryption keys.
probably because banning end-to-end encryption is not really feasible
Canadian here - you absolutely can get preventative care for things and I don't ever have to pay my GP. Are you a retard?
>agent sees CP on your screen (or plants evidence)
>you claim it's just random bytes
>they lock you away forever
Without encryption you cant verify messages.
Then you could spoof everything.
Domains, bank transactions, communication, everything.
Based
>When in doubt, American courts tend to side with law enforcement agencies
wrong
>Cops regularly get off the hook for killing people
This sentence disproves your first one but you're too dumb to even realize it
TORDLERS BTFO
>and why does your housing market keep skyrocketing and crashing?
Because they keep kicking the proverbial can of letting massive devaluation happen on account of boomers spending their retirement funds on frivolities and counting on their absurd increases in home value to carry them through EoL. They should have let the market crash in 2008 but they kept it artificially high and now this entirely baseless market propped up with government money is starting to falter again.
I could see it happening if big tech didnt push back against it. But theres no way theyd let it fly.
>anybody who wants to can now break into your database because you cant encrypt credentials