The engineer behind Microsoft Windows, man named Axel Rietschin said ReactOS uses source code stolen from Microsoft.
Rietschin also reminds that Microsoft owns Github, the service which hosts ReactOS source code.
ReactOS developer said it was developed without Microsofts own code but was made to mimic Windows. Rietschin doesnt believe him.
"There is zero possibility that ReactOS is genuine new code imitating Microsoft, it must have been written with stolen code. I am an engineer, not a lawyer but I dont understand how it is legal for them to keep this ReactOS available?."
How about he compiles it himself and finds out? Is he retarded? ReactOS is just WINE in a container any way.
Carter Price
TORILLE
Asher Watson
>it must have been written with stolen code >must He doesn't know for sure and can't prove. He's salty that he can't shut them down. It means the ReactOS team is doing something right. I approve this.
Carson Fisher
Why does he even care? The money is in Azure, and selling user data. I'd even fire the retard, for damaging the 'OSS friendly' image that MS has been trying to build over the last years.
Bentley Foster
Why can't you link english articles you stupid mongoloid? t. another stupid mongoloid
Easton Morales
Didn't Bill "the nigger" Gates steal the NT code from another corporation anyways? & Isn't ReactOS built over NT, IIRC.
John Rodriguez
No, ReactOS has its own kernel which mimics the functions of NT.
Lincoln Diaz
Can't they look at those leaked WIN2k and WINNT code bits? There's quite a bunch of stuff there. Also, >literally who said literally what
Hudson Hall
miks sä teet näitä lankoja suomenkielisistä uutisista tänne? mee vaikka ylilaudalle
Ryan Morgan
They just head hunted the VMS group out of DEC.
Michael Gonzalez
>stolen code I can't speak whatever language that article was written in, but I'll assume OP's summary is accurate. If it isn't, it's obvious trolling. That said, the burden of proof is on the prosecutor. If he believes ReactOS is really using stolen code from Microsoft, all he has to do is prove it. Showing that code was indeed "stolen" should be trivial after all. If he can't do it, he is full of shit, and his claims can be safely ignored.
>There is zero possibility that ReactOS is genuine new code imitating Microsoft, it must have been written with stolen code. I highly doubt an actual engineer could unironically make such an asinine claim. At this point, I suspect trolling. If he really did say that, it's unbelievable.
Dylan Brooks
No it’s not lol
John Butler
He really think microsoft don't check ReactOS daily just waiting the day one of em do the shit so they can finally shut down the project?
He says that "internal data structures and internal functions, not exported anywhere and not part of the public symbols, have the exact same names as they appear in the Research Kernel."
In his recent post, he presents further arguments against ReactOS being a "clean room" implementation done without reference to the source code. "Macros names, parameters, etc. never appears in the compiled code. It is … almost surely impossible that a clean-room reimplementation ends up using macros for the same things, let alone macros with the same or similar names."
Cooper Garcia
and then? what are you gonna do about it? god i hope that in some years they bankrupt microsoft into oblivion.
Jaxson Carter
>He says that "internal data structures and internal functions, not exported anywhere and not part of the public symbols, have the exact same names as they appear in the Research Kernel."
If that's true, then ReactOS is completely fucked.
Adam Cook
There's some issues with his claim, the only available "source code" for Windows NT are the NT4.0 source leaks, unless he is seriously trying to claim that the ReactOS team stole code from that leak, however that doesn't explain ReactOS's functionality being equivalent to Windows XP's level.
again ? they(m$) already tried to pull the same shit years ago
Thomas Hill
Is ReactOS actually usable now?
Michael Williams
must be getting close to useable if they're kvetching this hard
Hunter Anderson
This is FUD 101 playbook. The objective is to sow uncertainty about the long term viability of ReactOS and WINE. Microsoft paid SCO to do the exact same thing to Linux a few years ago.
Joshua Ortiz
It's Microsoft, who fucking cares? Practically a dead company at this point.
Cooper Perez
They're one of the worlds most evil companies and any cuck stupid enough to pay for their software deserves what they get. To say they're a dead company is another thing though.
Just like any market, that's a bubble, it will burst horrifically sooner or later.
Julian Fisher
>There is zero possibility that ReactOS is genuine new code imitating Microsoft, it must have been written with stolen code. Gee, if only he worked at Microsoft and ReactOS was open source so he had access to the source code of both and could compare it instead of making empty accusations.
Wyatt Scott
I doubt microsoft even trusts its own engineers with full source code access. Especially a pr clown like that. It's likely extremely compartmentalized. I'm certain that the handful of top employee's who do have access to the full source are so invested with shares and stock options that it would spell the downfall of their own wealth and entire career if it ever got out.
Eli Nelson
Any moment now t. loonixfags in 1995
Christopher Myers
Microsoft is part of the same bubble as Google, Facebook and all others not every one of them will suffer that much but some will.
Lucas Cooper
No they don't. Look at their earning reports, facebook and google are like 90% from ads. Windows is not even the top cashcow for Microsoft now. Azure, xbox, Surface, Office and even fucking bing are making money. They sell hardware ,software, services, ads... When the buble burst, they gonna be the one on top again.
Henry Kelly
To prove it, Microsoft would have to reveal the Windows source code. Innnnteresting.
Eli Perez
>stolen code from closed source project damn that guy is mad as fuck lmao
Sebastian Davis
>Rietschin also reminds that Microsoft owns Github, the service which hosts ReactOS source code. Holy shit how petty
Josiah Moore
>There is zero possibility that ReactOS is genuine new code imitating Microsoft What makes him think this? Does he think wine is stolen code too?
Mason Walker
The ReactOS team goes out of their way to be certain that there's no leaked source code in their stuff, they really went down on that when Microsoft sued some WINE devs
Jayden Wilson
>MS has been trying to build MS supports Oracle in the lawsuit against Google. What image?
Gabriel Moore
there's no point for MS to go after them when it's based on the ancient Win NT Research Kernel, is not used commercially, and doesnt threaten Windows in any way. Sending them a cease and desist letter is pointless when they have no resources to take and would spend a lot of both their own and taxpayer money doing it. This guy is retarded or new, or both.
Grayson Taylor
Wasn't there a talk about reverse engineering which talked about the ways MS has accidentally exposed shit like variable names and source tree stuctures over the years?
This is retarded. ReactOS wouldn't be the first time a group of hackers reverse engineered a complete commercial closed OS from scratch. Coherent was a feature complete clone of UNIX since the 80s that even Dennis Ritchie was surprised of how well it was made. Haiku is an almost complete clone of BeOS, and BeOS source never leaked in the past. FreeDOS is also a thing, plus all of the other MS-DOS clones like DosBox and similars.
The fact that this person thinks no one would be capable of pulling a functionable clone of X software, with enough time and resources, is laughable.
Robert Diaz
Same shit from years ago. They halted development in past to check their source code. It's a clean-room implementation. No idea why he has an axe to grind against ReactOS. Side note, when ReactOS gets UEFI implementation, the vga.sys could be replaced and boot WindowsXP on newer systems reactos.org/reset-reboot-restart-legal-issues-and-long-road-03
Justin Jenkins
All this copyright terrorism is just embarrassing. Just think about it: ReactOS team wants to build an open source alternative, which is already ridiculous - it's like reinventing the Pythagorean geometry just to make it publicly available. Microsoft failed to protect their source code from leaking to the public. ReactOS team HAS to be isolated from leaked MS sources, just to not violate the fucking laws. Now tell my, why do people think that there infinitely small chances that the system that imitates Windows will NOT have similarities in code anyways? Fucking ridiculous world. God we need communism.
Because Kildall was a dumb fuck. Gates had the vision, saw the chance and took it. The rest included IBM, Kildall and the bootleg DOS guy are all dumb as shits and missed the big fish.
Camden Bailey
Not a PR clown. Look for the claimants LinkedIn profile.
Though I find the claim of "the engineer behind Windows" to be laughable at best.
Benjamin Reyes
>stealing is okay as long as you steal big ok
Nicholas Ramirez
>If that's true, then ReactOS is completely fucked. The project already went through a massive code audit over a decade ago, and it's been widely known for a long time that the symbols were referenced in asserts from the checked builds up until Vista. Jesus Christ, how new is everyone on this board?
Nathaniel Rogers
and then Kildall got rekt in a bar fight and died. Pfff
Parker Martin
>microsoft paying any attention to reactos at all oh shit when did reactos git gud?
Jose Martin
Right around the same time that Windows did.
Ethan Foster
relatively speaking, of course
Angel Cooper
>fearing reactos okay now that's a good joke lmao
Kayden Hughes
Axel Whatshisface? Whatever happened to Raymond Chen?
Brandon Nelson
It's not, but a significant percentage of the code in reactos is just taken from Wine. The Russian government fucked ReactOS by sponsoring its developers so they could replace windows installations with something that works the same without US agencies spying on them. Shame
Sebastian Lewis
>ReactOS is just WINE in a container any way Remember guys, this is a tech board. I should either move to Jow Forums or reddit... Coz this shit make my eyes bleed.
Lincoln Robinson
They already went through a code audit proving it wasn't using any Microsoft code, a massive delay. This is just concentrated faggotry.
Colton Gomez
>hiring a retard as engineer No wonder Windows is so shit.
Chase Cook
The bootleg DOS guy? His steal is pretty small tbqh