UIs are so cute omg( •ω• ) when you hold one in your server and it starts rendering (/ω\) or when they boot up...

UIs are so cute omg( •ω• ) when you hold one in your server and it starts rendering (/ω\) or when they boot up and look at you like" owo Wayland? :3c" hehe ~ UI-kun is happy to see me!!(^ワ^) and the most adorable thing ever is when window-sama comes out but theyre rlly shy so u have to work hard!!(๑•̀ㅁ•́๑) but when UI-kun and window-sama meet and theyre blushing and all like "uwaaa~!" (ノ´ヮ´)ノ: ・゚hehehe~UI-kun is so adorable (●´Д`●)・

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gitlab.freedesktop.org/keithp/xcb-proto/blob/master/src/shm.xml
youtube.com/watch?v=Zsz7Shbnb9c
github.com/mstoeckl/latencytool
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>>>/oven/

I want to png your svg

Based and redpilled

Kyaa

wayland is bloat
XML cancer

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Wayland is much more minimal than the X protocol.
The wire protocol is an extremely simple binary protocol.

XML is just used for the code-generator that actually generates the code that deals with the binary protocol.
It's actually one of the more appropriate uses of XML I've seen, because there is just so much documentation text in the protocols themselves.
gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/blob/master/stable/xdg-shell/xdg-shell.xml
Other similar formats like JSON would completely fall over, because it sucks for structured documents, things like YAML is way more bloated than XML even is.

Also, xcb (the X11 library people SHOULD be using) also uses XML to generate its code, but doesn't even have documentation like Wayland does: gitlab.freedesktop.org/keithp/xcb-proto/blob/master/src/shm.xml

make a faq faqqot

wayland is more minimal because it doesnt have any features. Once you add all the features of X11 its much more bloated.

I don't know how people like you can say that when Xprint was a thing at one point.

This.
X is absolute, unadulterated, pure fucking garbage, and I wholeheartedly welcome the advent of Wayland, or literally any other display server/protocol that comes along and takes X to the fucking gallows once and for all.

The model as a whole is extremely outdated, visibly inefficient, insecure, and it such a fucking mess of spaghetti code and extensions and life support that only a few people on the planet still understand how to actually maintain it. Their opinion on X? "Kill it with fire, please."

For a group of people that love to lambaste Windows users for having "babyduck syndrome", I've never seen more babyducks when it comes to the retards peddling the "x-xorg just werks" shit and spreading dumbfuck FUD about Wayland. (Of course, in all fairness, it doesn't help when all the distros out there wanted to be the first kids on the block to use Wayland and started pushing it out before it was 100% ready, leading to the average retarded joe to swear off of it.)

Similarly, for a group of people that jerk themselves off over software minimalism, there sure are a lot of people that love to suck the bloated dick of X. The same people who cry "Systemd does way too much for an init system!" seem to have no problem with all of the shit a display server shouldn't be doing, and they're too fucking retarded to understand that the Wayland protocol will eventually/has already gotten standardized extensions/addons for the sorts of shit they're bitching about (for instance, screensharing is now implemented under Pipewire, which on a side note, will kill another cancer, PA, eventually)

Simply put, and in simple user terms--X is responsible for a lot of the jankiness of the Linux desktop (as you'd expect of a display server that's been kept on life support for 30 years), and when Wayland is eventually adopted, it'll go a LONG way towards bringing Linux to the fucking 21st century.

youtube.com/watch?v=Zsz7Shbnb9c

Good video on the subject.

based copypasta retard

This copy pasta is getting old.
Wayland is an over complicated bloated blitter with bad performance.
Despite it's many shortcomings X11 is much better than Wayland in almost every regard.
Which is also not very hard since even simply writng to /dev/fb0 is better than Wayland.

Seething tranny

your meme project exists because wayland is so useless

no u

You seem to have gotten those backwards. Wayland is a very simple protocol and no compositor I've seen does blitting. They all compose the screen using GLES or Vulkan. X11 is the one that is overly complicated.

So it is even worse. Indeed it only passes some memory addresses around.
It doesn't even blit and still has abysmal performance, latency and resource usage.

Of course X11 is more complicated. It provides vast functionality that people actually need. Something that Wayland doesn't.

Wayland is a protocol, it doesn't have any performance, latency or resource usage. Bugs in your compositor should be filed in the appropriate place. If you're talking about KWin on Wayland they are aware of some of the problems and are working on it, it's considered beta right now for a reason.

can i setup World of Warcraft in Wayland?
if so i switch

>it's considered beta right now for a reason.
they are going for the 15 years beta right?

I don't know, maybe you should ask them, or fix the bugs yourself so it goes quicker.

>Debian 10 is making use of the Linux 4.19 kernel, UEFI Secure Boot is finally supported by the distribution, on the desktop side GNOME Shell with Wayland is the default experience

Gayland reddit shill force has arrived.

cope
dilate

>fix the bugs for software that i don't even use or care to ever use
XD, you probably cut the lawn of your neighbor to.

Explain what wayland compositor you're using then, in before "lol none", good troll my dude.

wait. you need a compositor to run wayland? wtf holy shit that software must be so broken.

Wayland is not "in beta". libwayland and the core protocol is already very mature and only sees minor changes these days.
The actually hard part is writing the Wayland compositors themselves, which is a pretty hard thing to do (it takes a lot of specialised knowledge) and takes ages. Serious desktop-oriented Wayland compositors only really started around 2016-2017, and now have gotten into pretty usable states, but still aren't 100% perfect.

I've been using sway as my primary environment for about a year now, and I would think that it would work well for most people in a typical use case.

That isn't the name of your compositor.

Was talking about the KWin Wayland support, not wayland as a whole.

>typical use case
is it possible to hide a window?
reset the position of a window?
using shortcuts.

>That isn't the name of your compositor.
you don't need a compositor in Xorg you shilli boy

Still not the name of your compositor.

> Exist since 10 years
> full of bugs since the start
> "they are aware of some of the problems and are working on it"
Bwahaha.

Will the wlroots retards ever fix this:
> X11, no compositing, small window: 25ms average round trip
> sway, small window: 47ms average round trip
github.com/mstoeckl/latencytool

Yeah Wayland is so great, even the simplest compositors will double your latency.

because i don't use one?

Nobody uses no compositing on Xorg except for /v/ babies and mentally ill people like you.

Yes.

I'm aware of several opportunities to improve that in wlroots, but it's not my highest priority to do that right now.
If it bothers you so much, send patches. That's how open-source works, you entitled /v/ babby.

Making good software takes time, are you surprised?

>Complaining about something you don't use and don't know anything about
As I thought. Move on, nothing to see here.

Fuck off Federico.

>If it bothers you so much, send patches
Or he could use the superior X11. Why do you feel the need to shill for redhat products?

>Complaining
but i actually did not? are you even trying dude, this i a mature site please go sleep

I honestly don't give a shit about what you use. I develop for a Wayland compositor mainly for my own selfish reasons.

Wlroots does not have any Redhat developers as far as I know. However Xorg is mostly maintained by Redhat.

whatever, just stop making these threads and remove your trip

Yeah bruvv make W*YLAND HAS A BACKDOOR threads instead

t. Cli fag

you post makes me wanto to kms desu (* ~ * )¬

So sorry user kun!

die tripfaggot

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