IDEs

Why are people so reluctant to use an IDE for a serious programming project?

I know a guy who only writes Java programs in notepad++ and he says Intellij is terrible because it takes 1 minute to load.

That 1 minute lost to loading time is minuscule compared to the hours of productivity lost without a convenient debugger, intelligent code completion, and all of the other automated tasks that an IDE provides.

> Hurr durr I'm autistic and have to write every little bit of code by myself and look up documentation on a browser instead of pressing ctrl + q for quick documentation.

Seriously, this modern convenience is so undervalued.

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>so undervalued
Why? Cause you know the 1 person that uses Notepad++?
Pretty much all professional devs use a debugger, it doesn't make you special.

>Why are people so reluctant to use an IDE for a serious programming project?
what?
>I know a guy who only writes Java programs in notepad++ and he says Intellij is terrible because it takes 1 minute to load.
who cares what your uncles cousin's sister's son's wife's son does
>That 1 minute lost to loading time is minuscule compared to the hours of productivity lost without a convenient debugger, intelligent code completion, and all of the other automated tasks that an IDE provides.
strawman

It depends from the programming language.
For example in Java an IDE is basically required while in Python it's useless.

I argued why the 1 minute was worth it. get out of here nerd

good argument

Not using an IDE is the hipster way to code.

Well my autistic 'friend' who does competitive C++ programming uses an editor in the browser for some reason. When he actually uses an IDE he insists on using outdated VS2017 in edgy dark mode.
The idea of writing code in a browser disgusts me.

competitive c++ programming is the shit.
ICPC allows you to use clion. it's pretty sweet.
You can use ICPC's custom ubuntu distro and get the clion key inside it for personal usage.

Just don't make competitive programing your personality.

Pretty sure the hip thing to do is to run hundreds of plugins on top of an expandable editor (ideally Atom, but Sublime, neo/vim and emacs are contenders), rendering said editor just as slow and fragile as a full-fledged IDE yet less useful. That's the real "editor war" right there, as far as I'm concerned; people who use whatever works for them and their language vs people who just want to rice an editor forever.

I've always used Intellij IDEA and I've only realised this recently after I actually saw someone use a riced out vim at work for golang, all those plugins and config required to basically make it Goland

that being said clearly the master race is IDEA with vim emulation for actual raw text editing (with IDEA shortcuts)

>Java programs in notepad++
Okay Pajeet, use your shitty IDE, before shitting shit in the shit street.
Also, do the needful sirs.

>debugger
my code has no bugs
>"intelligent" code completion
won't beat my keyboard
>^Q documentation
i perfectly memorized the entirety of c standard library

Because every IDE i've used is a bloated monstrosity that has 100ms delay between each keystroke and randomly fucking crashes for no reason.

I use vim for most work with an ide in the background just for the debugger. Or usually vscode for the debugger nowadays.

emacs

I just don't like the editors nor thr implication that you have to follow the IDE's special snowflake standard for everything like file placement. It's easier 9/10 to use a standard text editor like vim or sublime-text, a well written makefile and gdb.

>Or usually vscode for the debugger nowadays.
>implying browser """application""" is faster than IntelliJ
Which IDEs were you using before?

AHCI is bloatware. IDE is justice.

>qtcreator for c++
>visual studio for c#
not had to work with any other language for years