Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600 - Good gaming CPU with great value >R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU >R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU >R7 1700X - Budget video editing >R9 3900X - Professional tasks
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p 16:9 >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard >RX 5700 - overkill framerates* 1440p 16:9 + 1080p 21:9 >RX 5700 - basic >RX 5700XT - standard* >RTX 2070 Super - higher framerates in some games* 2160p 16:9 + 1440p 21:9 >RTX 2070 Super - standard >RTX 2080Ti - best fit for 4K but expensive *requires complementary CPU and high Hz monitor
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync >A 250GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
>download windows 7 >use kmspico or similar to "authenticate" it >install windows 10 >get free licence
Jose Perez
This + hwidgen
>Does it update the same if you get it free? Yes
Cameron Johnson
>ask Jow Forums about good price/performance cpu >everyone tells me to buy ryzen >enter battlestation thread (on /v/ and Jow Forums) >intel i5's and i7's everywhere >only a handfull ryzen owners
what the fuck is this artificial backorder for 2060 Super how is it already out of stock
Asher Turner
Hows my build looking Jow Forums? Gona keep using my old r9 fury until next month when aib 5700XT comes out. Spending about $1075 total so far including tax, Just need to buy the PSU left and im all set. Kinda feel like i overspend on the motherboard since zen 2 doesn't overclock well. I can still return it and get something cheaper like the asus tuf gaming wifi /gigabye aorus pro wifi. Should I?
The 3000 are backwards compatible. You could save some money with a non-570 motherboard as well as a non-Gold power supply, since the difference between Gold and Bronze is negligible.
Other than that, it looks good, I guess.
Dominic Powell
Jow Forums is busy "doing real work" like compressing archives in winrar, so they don't need the highest FPS game performance
Jace Murphy
alright I think I've finally got all my parts down, how is it? goal is 1080 60fps ultra/high on current and next gen games, on a budget so it's all being bought used, hopefully manage a few years without major upgrades
also cheaping out on the RAM for now, will get Flare X CL14 eventually and add more storage
>check new card prices where I live >5700: 380€, 5700XT - 440€ >2060S: 420€, 2070S - 530€
Memetracing tax is huge
Joshua Hill
Since gaming, consider a better monitor
Jeremiah Campbell
i see people like yourself buying ryzen 3x000 with b450 boards etc.
how you gonna update the bios without cpu?
Jackson Morris
It'd be well worth spending the slightly more money to get 1TB SSD. 500GB fills up fast. Also get a 75hz freesync monitor. You can get an ips, 4ms, for under $110
Jayden Gray
Bios flashback, some motherboards have it
Jayden Adams
>RX 5700 is the best perf/watt GPU, better than the 1660Ti. No it isn't. Stop exaggerating, retard.
You can run windows 10 without ever activating it. The only thing is there is a watermark but I believe it can be removed. You also can't change the desktop wallpaper, but it can be circumvented by just right clicking an image and setting it as a wallpaper.
Blake Taylor
see
Jaxson Wood
What is going to happen with the GTX 1650? It doesn't seem they're selling well at all compared to the RX 570, but it will be the best low profile GPU available so it's still useful in that category.
Is it just going to fade into obscurity or will Intel greatly reduce the prices in order to try to catch up? Is it a two year wait for their next low profile offering?
the market for low-profile gaming is really small, basically SFF builders trying to push the size limit. in most cases length will be the limiter, not height, so even in the SFF world "mini" models like the 1080 mini make more sense, they're more powerful after all. half-height cards are mostly for literal boomers who need to upgrade the office PC's graphics.
David Kelly
>Get 1TB SU800 for $20 more. >Don't get blower 5700 XT it's loud. Just get the 5700, it uses less power. what mobo would you suggest
Luke Richardson
how do you replace motherboard fans? can you just buy a third party fan and replace it yourself? are mobo fans proprietary?
Grayson Allen
I'm clicking through a video on YouTube and I'm getting this shot. It's not happening on any any vids so far. Is it a sign of GPU failure?
I would say yes. What graphic card? Try running off integrated graphics if you have it
Evan Gutierrez
>nvidia powerup Everyone else shows the 5700 above the 1660ti.
1650 never should have been released. It's a joke. Wait for 7nm low profile cards, whether AMD or Nvidia.
The market is small because those shitty prebuilts without a 6 or 6+2 pin are going to bottleneck a decent GPU anyway, and PSUs aren't expensive while RX570s are cheap. PCIe height isn't even that big, too, anyway. There's really no reason to have an even shorter height. You have cases like the Thermaltake G3, too.
idk. none of the x470/b450 seem to have the 1003 AGESA update yet. But B450 Tomahawk will be fine.
Get one that's the same size and plug it in. You may need to splice the wires if it doesn't have the same connection, or the old one is soldered on.
Jason Myers
its a 2070. so i just plug my monitor into my motherboard?
Isaiah Sanchez
>But B450 Tomahawk will be fine. even though MSI can't seem to be able to deliver?
Jack Torres
>Have every part (3600+B450) except the GPU which delivers next week >Also have an unopened GTX 950 lying around Is it safe to plug in the 950 for now to set up the OS, bios, downloads, etc. while I wait for my actual GPU to come in? Forgive my retardation in advance
>wanting to buy intel when it has 253 security vulns to AMD's 13 (minor and patched) ones Stockholm syndrome, everyone.
He has a ton of tunnels and shit to use. There were times where he used multiple at the same time to try and pretend to be multiple people to the mods, even.
At least they used good components this time.
Bentley Torres
Does anyone have the VRM guide for x470 boards?
Isaiah Bailey
Holy fuck Ive been on this general for a week and every damn day it's the same bot reposts
Ian Jones
Sounds cheap enough to pay to not go to jail huh?
Jack Martinez
Looking for a Z390 board with at least 5 fan headers, 3 SATA connections, and 3 front USB for my case, what's best?
Fanboys need not apply and tell me to switch to AMD, I already have a 9700k I won in a sweepstakes.
Mason Murphy
>month old CPU Apu, mobo, psu and ram >been overclocking but all under safe voltages and temperatures, even bought a better cooler >last week realized the iGpu doesn't work at stock settings anymore, """""i.e. it crashes under load, like games"""""" >needs either underclock or overvolt, and overclocking also is stable What do? Help Help This computer was bought to help me, not to give more cortisol and worries.
Carson Russell
does good ram actually matter at all? looking at just ddr4 3600 2x16gb sets, the cheapest is $140 and the most expensive is $286 3600 is already much faster than necessary without overclocking, so why not always buy the cheapest one?
Ian White
Anyone have experience with the intel 660p m.2 drive?
Adrian Jackson
Can you overclock the RTX 2060 Super enough to be a 2070?
Sebastian Morales
It already is as good as a 2070 at stock
Michael Bennett
>$520 maple money for a 5700 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EXPLAIN HOW THIS TINY PIECE OF METAL IS WORTH 1/4TH THE COST OF MY MOTORCYCLE
Wait Does this mean I could make a gaming rig without a cpu entirely?
Christopher Robinson
why is storeMi not popular? You can use it with your bootable SSD, or a different SSD. Basically you make your SSD act as cache for a larger HDD. So you could get a 4TB mechanical drive for about $100 these days. Combined with even a mediocre SSD like the Crucial MX500 500GB for $70.
Brandon Lewis
Only if you find flashing your bios particularly engaging.
Nathaniel Wilson
How can this be? Doesn't the Ryzen chip have (basically) 4 cores/8 threads? Why is a pure quad core beating it?
I honestly think he has the best overall reviews of Zen2.
Isaac Nelson
I have no idea what this means or how this works I guess I'll buy a cpu lol
Elijah Turner
That's Zen+ and not Zen2. Also only 4c/4t.
Jace Brown
get 2x8gb
Samuel Richardson
Should I order parts now or wait until August? I've been without a pc for 2 years now but everybody keeps telling me to wait...
Cameron Walker
Pls respond
Camden Lee
no but I know it's QLC based and thus, REALLY shit if you have any intention of using it for anything write heavy.Fine if all you're doing is using it to load games on and read from.
because in practice it actually isn't all that useful
plus HDDs are obsolete.
Joshua Gray
If you push the flashback button a dumb microcontroller embedded in the chipset boots without or instead of the CPU, and the only thing it knows how to do is read a firmware file off a flash drive in a specific USB port and write it to the board's bios rom.
Isaiah Cook
>Intel Back to readdit
Bentley Morris
how is it not useful? HDD's are cheap. Get a THICC HDD, use a 500 to 1TB of SSD as cache, and now you have a 5TB fast game disk. All it does is swap the game from HDD into the SSD "cache" you made. Thus you have HDD cheap storage with SSD load times.
4TB consumer SATA based SSD's are still like $750.
Xavier Walker
No. He's a ignorant retard with a huge ego that doesn't match his knowledge
cause you kinda need a separate OS drive in case the storemi drive gets detached. Otherwise you have to use CLI for recovery. It's good, but it doesn' fit budget builds as much when you need multiple drives. Like the ideal use case for it is you have your 128-256gb boot drive, then you pair optane or a NVMe with a 4TB QLC SSD to make it faster and more reliable.
So all it does is save you the effort of moving the games you play the most to your SSD.
What I did when I still used a mixture of SSDs and HDDs was that I would figure out which games benefit the most from faster storage and put those on the faster drives.
Better end result than what StoreMI or an Optane drive would give you.
David Brooks
3600 is $520 in Canada Don't forget shipping, handling, and jewing fees
Jayden Morris
2 different tiers, if you are gaming then get the 3600 and use the $170 difference in a better GPU
Aiden Scott
Well not necessarily about budget builds, but good performance ON a budget, or someone looking to speed up their already existing build. idk, just seems like an overlooked performance boost for what? The cost of a cheap SSD?
