I'm running out of space and need a reliable hard drive (two of them for additional backup). I'm using two drives currently that are 4 years old but they're too small so I need bigger ones. Would WD Red be good? I assume since they're NAS and designed to be run 24x7 that they'd be pretty reliable. I wouldn't be running them 24x7 but I'd likely use them at least once a day.
I really just need something that will last at least 3 years and is at least 6TB.
>western digital
Never gonna make it past 1 year
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>4 years old, thinks they're old
get back to me when they pass 10 years of age. fucking newfag
>he's forgotten the Seagate 3TB duds disaster where they knew about the problem and didnt give a fuck
>he fell for the duopoly meme
user...
You know there's more brands than seagate and WD don't you? of course you do, is just that you're not being paid enough to properly shill for WD.
Anecdotal but surprising a 3tb seagate is my longest lasting drive atm
Grab an 8TB Mybook and shuck the hard drive if you're strapped for cash.
You do realise that HGST is WD thus leaving only Toshiba? And Toshiba wasn't the one to acquire Maxtor and Quantum.
What type of drive is in the 8TB MyBook? It's not some shitty WD Green is it?
And Samsung, also toshiba makes better consumer drives than seagate and WD.
Red or White
>network drive for average consumer external HDD
doubting this OP
I bought an HGST He 8TB Ultrastar after I filled my 4TB Deskstar, picking up another soon. Toshiba's also pretty good, but I've only got experience with some shucked 2.5" drives from them
Drive brand doesn't matter. There's usually more variability between production runs of the same model and between different models from the same manufacturer than there is between manufacturers. I say this having managed large data centers with tens of thousands of drives from all the major manufacturers. All hard drives wear out and fail, usually within a couple of years if subjected to high use. You cannot guarantee that a drive will last at least three years. The MBTF will give you the average lifespan, but there's significant variability. Any particular drive might last six years or it might only last six months. If you can't tolerate periodic data loss and downtime, you need to plan for drive failures by using some kind of redundant storage array.
only sensible post ITT. Don't trust a brand name, trust (tested..) backups.
thats for WD green
if WD only buy black ones (caviar black iirc) otherwise they literally break in a half like mine
What would a fairly trust backup be?
> You know there's more brands than seagate and WD don't you?
he doesn't
Seagate IronWolf drives are unironically good. I've had an 8TB model as my server's RAID backup location since they came out. Toshiba N series are good too for their price. Nothing wrong with WD Red's, but I notice they're usually expensive compared to the competition.
Go HGST
HGST is literally WD bro
Pretty sure it a gamble for blues or reds.
Technically. HGST tech has been absorbed by WD. It now markets HGST Ultrastars as WD Ultrastar, but the technology from the regular WD (red/blue/green) is separate afaik.
tape
Toshiba
avoid seagate
WD or Toshiba these days are the best ones
i'd pick the one with the biggest warranty (like 5y)
>that will last al least 3 years
So no SSD than
They are "pretty reliable" overall but you still simply want RAID or equivalent (snapraid, ceph, moosefs, whatever).
They're so much cheaper than the competition that you really don't have to give a shit about the higher failure rate.
Samsung hasn't made hard drives in like 5+ years.
you can get SSDs with 5 year warranties
some people are busy and happy to pay a premium for something that will just work
I'm busy, and where I am seagate is under 2/3rds the cost of WD or Toshiba, so I generally just set up 3 drive mirrors instead of 2 drive mirrors in my RAID10.
>buying a 6TB+ SSD
absolute madman
they are also loud
I have an actual question because I never understood this, what's the best way for me to work with large amounts of data while keeping backups WITHOUT it being painfully slow? Some kind of raid? My big storage drive is 5400rpm so it takes forever to copy/delete stuff, and the 7200rpm one isn't much better. Are SSDs the only solution?
Use efficient backup software that runs in the background like bvckup2
One free solution would be cron script that connects to offsite backup, diffs changes with rsync and copies over any changes. Run at frequency that works for you. I do it weekly.
Borgbackup or syncthing or such do great.
Linux md RAID5/6 also works easy and great for drive redundancy.
Are planning to run it in nas or desktop? It's just a personal anecdote, but i bought 2 3TB reds back in 2013, one is used in my home server, other one was used in desktop. The one that is used in server still works perfectly, the other one got 500 errors after 2 years and began to make strange noises, so it's now gathers the dust. As far as i understand reds are not supposed to be turned off and on often.
Yeah I was planning to use it as a desktop. I did have a feeling that since it was designed to always be on, turning it off might cause issues. Perhaps I'll stick with a WD Blue or a WD Black if I can.
I bought my Plextor M5P more than 6 years ago, it still works perfectly. So are 2 850evo and 1 cheap adata. All of them are more than 3 y/o.
I've had a pair of Seagate Constellation AS since probably about 2010, daily use, now run my media server content.