Does Jow Forums love their job?

Robert Lee
Robert Lee

Be honest.

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Bentley Phillips
Bentley Phillips

i dont have a job.

Aaron Garcia
Aaron Garcia

Fucking hate it, I do pretty much nothing and make good money doing it. But it's boring and I deal with retards.

Hunter Miller
Hunter Miller

I wouldn't do it for free, so I guess not.

Jordan Taylor
Jordan Taylor

No.

Leo Howard
Leo Howard

why don't you do something else while there? like reading some shit

Connor Baker
Connor Baker

Is working in tech really that bad?

Lincoln Wilson
Lincoln Wilson

I hate SAP

Camden Carter
Camden Carter

love ? no.
but its the best job i ever had to its cool

Dominic Lopez
Dominic Lopez

I don't have a job, pls gib @rothchild on kik

Evan Collins
Evan Collins

Because when I'm really disengaged, I REALLY disengaged and it's hard to find motivation.
No, my position is.

Jack Russell
Jack Russell

yes, I love being a NEET

Jonathan Anderson
Jonathan Anderson

I'm a network admin.
I absolutely hate my job. I wanted to quit earlier this year but my boss caught wind of it so he offered me a $20000 raise. I only took it because there's no way someone with my experience could get a similar job offer. At the time I had less than 2 years of job experience and a CCNA.
My fellow "network administrators" are genuinely retarded.
I have maybe three competent co-workers on a team of 12.
Every fucking day I have conversations like "no, CRC errors cannot travel past their segment", or "no, you cannot use 192.168.1.1 on a WAN interface.

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Jose Walker
Jose Walker

I'm sorry, user. Do you work at a small ISP or WISP or something?

Luis King
Luis King

i really liked my previous job, got moved to another project which is pretty braindead. Wrote applications today.

Ryder Torres
Ryder Torres

Yeah, a regional ISP. We used to have a team of of 15 highly skilled people but we had a mass exodus because of pay disputes.
Our management is so fucking stupid they thought they hired fucking CompTIA A+s and Network+s to replace old admins. Obviously someone with only CompTIA certs cannot manage metroethernet and backbone fiber infrastructure.
Our call center staff who work with resi and business customers get bitched at every day by angry customers. People are trying to get out of their contracts and we're paying credits out the ass.

Justin Hill
Justin Hill

Our management is so fucking stupid they thought they hired fucking CompTIA A+s and Network+s to replace old admins
I'm so mad I can't write a coherent sentence

Julian Richardson
Julian Richardson

no, I fucking hate it and it pays below the minimum wage, I hate being a wagie

Adam Rogers
Adam Rogers

It's okay, but I wouldn't say I love it.

It's my first real software engineering job out of college. The salary is absolute dog shit. The software team has been reduced down to myself and another colleague and was about a dozen people several years ago before I joined the company which leads me to believe that they are going to either axe me or the other guy after the project I'm working on is finished. I don't know if I'm paranoid, but my managers have been incredibly nice to me, almost too nice. The same kind of warmth and cordiality you'd give a prisoner on death row while serving their last meal. I've been interviewing with another company who is keen on hiring me, so after I get an offer I will quit. Sometimes I regret ever pursuing programming as a career. I love the work that I do, but despise how most companies view software developers.

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Carter Reed
Carter Reed

I'm in college, took 3 courses on networking and have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

Robert Nguyen
Robert Nguyen

i'm a CNC operator vertical carousel, it's...ok. I mostly make big slewing rings (oversized fidget spinners, if you will). you have to do both physical and mental work, which can get kinda stressful but it pays better than any other job I could get with my education and I guess there's room for promotion. can't say I love it, though.

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Jace Thomas
Jace Thomas

on a vertical carousel*

Nathaniel Rogers
Nathaniel Rogers

Sounds like my job except retards are just my coworkers.

Aaron Allen
Aaron Allen

I hate it and love it.

I draw porn and have a big patreon. I make more money than most people where i live 10 times over who all work a "real" job. Also I work from home so I make whatever hours I want (sometimes i just take 2-3 week long breaks while getting paid).

But I've been at it for 8 years now and i just draw it in zombie mode more or less, I want to move onto other sfw things i'm interested it.

William Watson
William Watson

This.

Henry Martin
Henry Martin

I'm a receptionist. It's fucking awesome. I just chat with people and do repetitive no stress work. I make 20 grand a year, but my life is actually fucking amazing. I make just enough to pay rent, feed myself, and get high once in a while. People who work hard are dumb as fuck. What are you spending all your time and life for? A shinier car?

Justin James
Justin James

As much as I CAN love a job, I suppose. Interesting problem spaces, mad respects, decent money, very large amount of influence on whether the product succeeds or fails. Could stand to have a little more design autonomy, but I can smooth talk my way into almost always getting to do it my way.

Aaron James
Aaron James

I love my job for 6 months, then I realize I could be making more and I work with retards, so I apply to other jobs. I have never worked at a job for 9 months, and now I make 130k.

I usually entertain myself by timing how fast I can put out a feature with 100 percent test coverage. I hate asnyc tasks - putting a request here to get access to this and that. Fuck that shit is aids.

I'll probably stay at this new job for a while though

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Grayson Williams
Grayson Williams

I dislike it but I don't completely hate it. I started off doing grunt shit like wiping drives and certifying them. Now I'm a lead technician so I get to fuck around and make sure someone else is doing the grunt work. It's boring and unfulfilling but it pays the bills.

Tyler Cooper
Tyler Cooper

why is he trading shitcoins

Isaiah Gutierrez
Isaiah Gutierrez

despise how most companies view software developers
tell me more

Jayden Howard
Jayden Howard

Nah, I just dump my money in a pile (i.e. bank account) while spending about the same as when I was making 40k (which was already putting a lot in savings). I do it for the power high and the creative fulfillment. Hell, when I'm not working hard at work I'm generally working hard on something else.

Cameron Robinson
Cameron Robinson

i wish i was you

Xavier Campbell
Xavier Campbell

No. I have been a webdev for 1 year and i am already burnt out.

I am now questioning what i am doing with my life.

Julian Ortiz
Julian Ortiz

maybe we should unionize

Jordan Powell
Jordan Powell

This is money is okay and it does help to supplement my near-zero student income, but I can't stand it.

Isaac Kelly
Isaac Kelly

I started studying web dev 6 months ago and I'm about to lose my shit.
I should just build a farm.

Leo Cooper
Leo Cooper

Same bro. Occasionally something will happen to make it interesting, but I'm mainly reading documentation, learning sepples or studying for certs. I want to apply myself.

Christian Cook
Christian Cook

yeah its not too bad most days
i got promoted to lead dev on a project about a year ago and have decent amount of freedom

Aiden Hill
Aiden Hill

Not at all. I'm considering an offer from another employer at this moment. I'll probably dislike that job too though so who knows

Nolan Young
Nolan Young

You should ask for a refund
CRC errors and private IP addresses are Networking 101
Any network admin that doesn't understand those two concepts should be fired.

Noah Hernandez
Noah Hernandez

How do you spend 8 hours every day behind your desk and not hate it/become crazy?

Evan Gray
Evan Gray

No it sucks, but I make 150k a year and work remote so I can pretend to love it

Parker Jones
Parker Jones

tfw just started learning
I have no choice, I must keep going.

Aiden Fisher
Aiden Fisher

Full time NEET, so yeah I do.

Jonathan White
Jonathan White

How many hours a day do you spend on your computer?

Carson Rivera
Carson Rivera

nope

Joseph Nguyen
Joseph Nguyen

God fucking damn I am jelly.
I make 70k and have to work with people who act like 30-40 year old children. I hate it.
How to remote job? Are you in a stable roll in a big company or freelance?

Samuel Long
Samuel Long

Work at a FAANG. Make great money a few years out of school.

Super depressed and miss my hometown in Canada.

Charles Bennett
Charles Bennett

This. I also want to remote.

Charles Anderson
Charles Anderson

Mostly freelance but I have a recruitment company that secures me tons of contracts and a lot of them last for at least a year. I'm doing government work right now which can potentially end up in getting myself a lot more work in future.

Since it's government work it tends to be a bit overe gineered and bloated, but the code is surprisingly not that bad as far as these things go. It's mostly slow as fuck getting access to shit I need like servers and what not.

Since I got through the recruitment company they take a lot off the top, but they handle my health insurance and taking out taxes as well as getting me jobs so they deserve a cut.

Leo Brown
Leo Brown

I also have no choice, because I remember my last, non tech related job, made me want to crash my car from monday to friday.

Brandon Scott
Brandon Scott

FAANG
One of these things is not like the others. Might as well include Tesla and Uber if you're going to put Netflix in there.

Hudson Jenkins
Hudson Jenkins

I'm this fag. My friend works at Netflix and makes close to 300k a year, although he lives in LA while I live in bumfuck nowhere so I probably have more purchasing power than him regardless

Cameron Allen
Cameron Allen

FAAG does seem more apt

Jayden Morgan
Jayden Morgan

When I finished uni I had a really hard time finding work, took eight months
I was about to join the army, but ended up with a comfy office job at a science company
It's good, and if I'm not complete shit I'll automatically get promoted at the end of the year

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Nolan Davis
Nolan Davis

Not saying anything about the job prospects; just googled what FAANG meant and the quality of stocks between FAAG and N is night and day.

Daniel Roberts
Daniel Roberts

What qualifications do you need to start doing that?
I only have one year of working experience, a bachelors, and some certs, while working as backend rest api developer.
If I just get really good at making json inputs/output endpoints is there good opportunity for me to become you, or is there some other stuff I need like UI work?

Sebastian Morris
Sebastian Morris

4 days on, 4 days off
~$85k a year
easy

Thank god I didn't focus on a career in cs/web development/anything technology related

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Gavin Hall
Gavin Hall

Red teamer here - I have fun most days. Report writing sucks though.

Asher Martin
Asher Martin

Help desk for a "small" company that supplies equipment we support 24/7. Pretty much I
take calls from customers and make a ticket for every single call when if it's silent
remote into devices to troubleshoot anything and everything that could go wrong
coordinate with other companies (have to be very sociable) to get things done that we can't do remotely
have to do tedious admin work on our databases
also do general IT garbage for other employees, and if it's a higher-up I have to drop everything no matter what I was doing

I hate it and every day I consider just not coming in. IT was a mistake

Justin Cook
Justin Cook

I'm a senior software dev/"service architect" for a very large company which makes software as its business. I wouldn't say I love it since some of the stuff I work on pretty often is fairly boring and not very interesting, but it's a fine job since it pays well, it's not stressful, the hours are pretty great (7.5h a day) and overtime is actually discouraged. I get quite a lot of money for not a lot of stress, so my work/life balance is about as great as it could possibly be with a full-time job.

Michael Carter
Michael Carter

currently doing a paid college internship till December 3 months webdev building a new site for a business and then im tech support for three months which is more systems admin since the permanent guy is stretched so thin tldr. business people fuckin hate IT guys im relaxed about it because its good pay and im gone at December but im never gonna work IT in a company not in computing fuck that shit

Owen Wood
Owen Wood

I might be getting a sysadmin job but I'm unsure what a good wage would be if they want to hire me in that kind of position.

Aaron Martinez
Aaron Martinez

If you have previous experience and a degree then you should be good. You just need to market yourself, make a nice spiffy LinkedIn profile. Work on making your resume nice and full of buzzwords and making yourself seem impressive.

Try some job sites. LinkedIn, Glassdoor, hired, and stack overflow. You can also checkout the who's hiring threads on hacker news.

Then you gotta grind some leetcode and start submitting applications and reaching out to recruiters in your area. If you're looking specifically for remote work then you should still do a few interviews locally to get yourself prepared. Then search specifically for that.

Idk it's a numbers game and mostly luck and how well you can sell yourself. Goodluck

Gabriel Mitchell
Gabriel Mitchell

what do you do?

Justin Baker
Justin Baker

I have no job,. I'm just a gigolo with 2 women (I'm not joking). I play at the computah every day and cook/clean/fix the apartment for my 2 lovely girls.
Beat me.

Dominic Harris
Dominic Harris

How'd you learn to draw? I'm not eligible for neet dollarydoos so I have to work for money. I'm living off loans right now

David Ross
David Ross

I got into the same situation myself in Silicon Valley although it was because of merging with a big company. We do hardware and software, kind of like embedded, so it's tough work compared to most places in the Valley who are only software based.

I was close to resigning but they bumped up my salary to 120k from 90k a year prior after a whole year of no raises and wanting to quit myself. I suspect they saw it in the wind that I might want to leave, but I told a leaving coworker that and they might have overheard or felt it. So I'm stuck trying to see if I can get my salary elsewhere outside of FAANG and get to a point where I can still leave, but I haven't hit my 3 years there yet so not sure if I want to stay that long. Still feels like golden handcuffs.

We had a slightly smaller team, about 9 to 10 people but they bailed to go work for startups or big FAANG companies because our company was treating people like shit and a full year with no raises in a increasing competitive market, and they wonder why they lost our lead engineer and basically everyone else except me, a senior R&D guy who is about to retire, and a mid tier middle aged Chinese dude who started a year ago. We just replaced our lead engineer with an Indian person who is starting beginning of August so can't wait to see what disasters unfold. At least he is well versed in C++ and isn't a code monkey but he has no hardware experience.

Robert Parker
Robert Parker

Dumb lab tech at an oil refinery. Don't even have a degree although I'm working on one right now.

Tyler Rodriguez
Tyler Rodriguez

do you at least get paid

Adam Anderson
Adam Anderson

Yes i do.
Work as a tour guide/driver, i drive people around my town and do stops where i show them around,
Pay is great and the tips are also great.

Connor Davis
Connor Davis

Any suggestions on what certs to go for if you want to get a sysadmin/network admin job ?

Dylan Sanders
Dylan Sanders

How much do you travel? I’m interviewing for a red team position this tuesday and my only concern is having to be away from the wife too much

Caleb Cook
Caleb Cook

Yes.

Adrian Price
Adrian Price

I'm a goat's herder, making cheese. The work and hours are thought but it's alright to be in constant contact with the nature.

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Eli Nelson
Eli Nelson

Are there any low-stress tech jobs if you have adhd and no rich parents?

John Baker
John Baker

Ya, that's my retards too lol. I don't deal with customers or anything just co-workers retarded mouth breathing retards.

Ayden Watson
Ayden Watson

School IT guy

Samuel Diaz
Samuel Diaz

It's amazing. I program, give presentations, sell to clients, architect, it's all fun stuff. My company plans to have my do R&D in the future.

Xavier Gonzalez
Xavier Gonzalez

Took a job supporting garbage medical software. Workload is ridiculously low, and we are remote.. Pay is okayish, lot of fucking with your pay goes on though (ie,
our base is around 80k, but can be ~265k depending on what you do, so they are fucking with a lot of money). The software itself is super garbage. CEO is a complete retard who just forces our E. European devs to constantly work on some flavor of the week feature to the point where we have 15 year old products that literally dont work and are constantly working on the next big thing™ while our actual products languish. Will leave in less than a year probably.

Nicholas Morgan
Nicholas Morgan

Yeah, no, it's low stress until you get into shit like inadequate IT or security and some kid just outsmarted you and changed all the grades or made dumb changes to the school website.

It might be the lowest stress out of all the jobs but you can still get into hot water.

William Mitchell
William Mitchell

I was an accountant a few years ago. Dabbled in some algorithmic trading. Currently I'm managing a fund for my family and some close friends. But it's kind of a boring life.

Juan Morales
Juan Morales

Depends on whether or not the engagement requires physical access. If so, and that's your area of expertise, you'll obviously be traveling. Even if it's not, you may need to go along with the team in order to run remote attack phases from a hotel room or something where you can all regroup.

If it's not physical at all (which seems to run counter to the point, but clients sometimes want to exclude it) then you can do everything remotely from a remote hacking perspective.

Definitely ask them for details - I have to travel probably 10-15% of the year, which isn't too bad.

Charles Sullivan
Charles Sullivan

I make CRMs for a few companies and it's amazing, I get to work from home and 99% of the time I just collect free money

unfortunately the other 1% of the time is dealing with ambitious, politicizing cancerous sales shits who have literally tried to commit internal gerrymandering (and tried to get the software out of the picture because I was the only one who could prove it) or dealing with some $8 an hour nigger in the call center who thinks they are clever entrepreneurs for saying the software is down

time and time again I show up with proof and do a better job than the CEO at managing his company, and how later they always fire the dumb fuck once they investigate it because of me. What pisses me off is how they have to "take every case seriously" and we have to go through the same investigation every time. No, the software is not down, it hasn't changed in months, it is always some call center nigger who wants the day off. I had a case where someone in the call center went through 10 different computers (yes really) because they kept pouring coffee on it on "accident"... yeah put them out on their ass after the second computer jesus

Thomas Campbell
Thomas Campbell

I hate it. The stress and the tight deadlines are fucking me up.
I wish i had a normal, physical job where i work my 8 hours a day, get home and don't have to think about the next huge project that's around the corner.

Carter Richardson
Carter Richardson

there is no such thing as a low stress tech job they will try to get you on the hook for EVERYTHING. contracts don't mean shit, losers know they can make an impression to the company you're working with by pretending to freak out. there are some exceptions in software but only if they got fucked by another company and look at you as a hero, but it's only a matter of time until they get used to it and forget

Benjamin Ramirez
Benjamin Ramirez

Typical Jow Forums poster.

Jordan Brown
Jordan Brown

I draw furry porn from home.
Fucking love it.
Best part is that it's a job that will eventually let me out earn like 90% of my country from the comfort of my home and also gives me a skillset to eventually jump into the gaming industry if I feel like it.

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Caleb Campbell
Caleb Campbell

I've been doodling since high school more or less, and then started to look up tutorials and practicing with a cheapo 50$ wacom tablet/pen.

Jackson Ortiz
Jackson Ortiz

I have a surface pro 3, what tutorials should I look at to get started? The last time I drew seriously was in high school but I quit because I had to focus on my useless AP classes

Landon Kelly
Landon Kelly

Are you objectively good or do you just draw that niche shit?

Jaxson Smith
Jaxson Smith

Basically go on youtube and watch some Sycra. Just sit through all of his beginner videos and draw at the same time and you're off to a good start.
youtube.com/user/Sycra

Personally I don't consider myself good, but by furry fandom standards I'm well above average.
Good enough to earn couple of hundred per picture.
But those standards are pretty low and shouldn't even be considered.
I'm around two or three years away from being able to post my stuff on artstation.com and competing with the industry people.
And I do focus on niche shit, because that's just a good marketing move.

Nicholas Kelly
Nicholas Kelly

Oh shit lots of good stuff here, thanks user. I just want to get good enough to art for my video game so I can be as unsociable as possible

William Cook
William Cook

yeah

Benjamin Ross
Benjamin Ross

I don't have a job.
My last job was rearing insects, which is pretty much a farm except with a different smell of shit.
It made me want to kill myself and I worked surrounded by women, so backstabs were on the daily menu.

Ayden Hill
Ayden Hill

implying I wasn't crazy to begin with

Samuel Martinez
Samuel Martinez

I'm a cleaner. No, I don't like it. But it could be worse.

Logan Gray
Logan Gray

technically I'm unemplyed but I work part-time job in army for some bucks and live with parents
pretty comfy

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Evan King
Evan King

I hate my job. Software engineering is so stressful. Working on deadlines decided by other usually less knowledgable people, compensating for unforeseen roadblocks by working later hours, and reinventing the wheel for the 15th time just because a PM wanted something shiny to show off when the battle-tested options work better.

inb4 get a better job - I'm an fte at goog and have things a whole lot better than most of my friends in the industry. It's still stressful, and working your way up to the best SWE job you can obtain still doesn't increase happiness. Mostly just increases your taxes and rent to live somewhere nobody wants to live in

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Caleb Bennett
Caleb Bennett

That is eerily similar to my position and company.
Interesting that it's more common.

Sebastian Powell
Sebastian Powell

Yeah, it's pretty great.

Henry Clark
Henry Clark

why not leave and join a smaller company where you can actually decide on the features you implement? seems like it would be way more fulfilling for you based on what you wrote.

Evan Carter
Evan Carter

Sys admin in an academic setting. There nothing to hate when you have jack shit to do every day except browse the internet and listen to music, rebooting a server or printer once in a while.

Daniel Garcia
Daniel Garcia

Who would work for free?

Lincoln Cook
Lincoln Cook

hAHa tHaT's So WhAcKy

Tyler Edwards
Tyler Edwards

Yes. Quite a lot at times, but maybe not at this moment. I was slacking and have some backlog to do, but things I do are interesting and diverse. I mostly do solo R&D so I touch many different technologies and problems to solve.

Jack Gray
Jack Gray

Free source enthusiast do.
I'm a NEET.

Tyler White
Tyler White

Yeah, its pretty great.

90% of it might just be the people I work with though, they're all really great guys. But I went from a job where I was feeling dead and feeling like calling in sick almost every day, to actually enjoying myself. I mean, sure, I don't LOVE going to work because it is still work. But I actually don't mind it.

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Mason Wright
Mason Wright

Yes. Im a psychoanalyst.

Cameron Brown
Cameron Brown

I'm about to start a job in a NOC. Small company, seems chill. I plan to have my second CCNA in the next few months and the CTO told me he would move me into an engineering role once that happens. I've been let down enough times in my life not to get my hopes up TOO much. But at the very least I have the best reason an employer has ever given me to study everyday.

Anthony Williams
Anthony Williams

it's not a Jow Forums job and I don't love it but I do enjoy getting money and it doesn't make we want to kill myself
I also have no bills to pay so I'm not enslaved and can revert back to being a NEET anytime

Luke Sullivan
Luke Sullivan

I studied dentistry because money. Absolutely hate it.

but I love Jow Forums and linux.

Joseph Williams
Joseph Williams

hell yeach I am farmer in eastern europe

Connor James
Connor James

this

Ayden Gray
Ayden Gray

I write scrapers that gather info from social media. I'm pretty sure what I make is illegal, but I'm just doing my job, and I love it.

The pay isn't bad either.

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Adam Roberts
Adam Roberts

This

Nolan Parker
Nolan Parker

I was working as a software engineer at a consulting company in Mexico a couple of years ago. The workload was tough and the pay was meh. There I meet and started dating a woman from Canada. We dated for about 1 year until she took me to Canada with here and got married. I clean the house, cook for her, take care of the kids, etc while she works for another consulting company here in Canada. In my spare times I do game development.

Jordan Adams
Jordan Adams

Gathering publicly available information is illegal

Sebastian Nguyen
Sebastian Nguyen

sorry user, but HR caught wind of you posting a pepe and reported it to the union (yes, the 500$/mo to-be-a-member union)
looks like you can't get a job at any place connected with the union now :^)

I've worked with unions before, they're not always the answer and may make working conditions even shittier.

Xavier Williams
Xavier Williams

sounds like its less the job and more your view on life user.
Are you thankful for anything in your life?

Adrian Garcia
Adrian Garcia

Automated data extraction is almost always in violation of TOS and thereby an act of trespassing. Depending on scale the fines can be devastating (pic related)

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Xavier Wilson
Xavier Wilson

So the problem is how the scraped data was then used, not the act of scraping the data itself.

Nathan Lee
Nathan Lee

I get to tell uni students that their work sucks dick, fuck my 9/10 stacy secretary, and then do high-level research.
Yeah, I fucking love my job, and I'll do it to my very death.

Carson Sullivan
Carson Sullivan

No, the act of scraping itself is the crime. Craigslist just chose to react because of how it was being used.

Easton Harris
Easton Harris

I am giving my 20 calendar days notice tomorrow.
By Sept 2nd I'll start a new job.

I would like my job, but my company mistreated my colleagues and they all left. Now it's all work and no play. Basically I have to rush everything, I never have the time to do one thing well.
Basically I must listen to the project manager that complains the most.
Also I'm basically always on call.
I'll be leaving my job, sadly.

At least the new job looks interesting and I managed to snatch a +10kEUR on my current base salary.

Michael Wilson
Michael Wilson

fpbp

Kayden Davis
Kayden Davis

I don't love my job, but it's an easy, sometimes rewarding, and relaxed atmosphere that happens to pay me what I consider "enough".
Really can't ask for more than that.

t. MRI / CT technician

Xavier Morris
Xavier Morris

Depends. I co own an IT store ranging from phone screen repairs, to building Pc's (we have a custome line), to networking clients offices. Theres some jobs that are fun, some not, some clients that are wonderful, some less than wonderful. Had a client threaten to beat my ass over the colour of a wire for a networking job. I've stayed up until 4 am in clients offices attempting to repair a dying drive with multiple corrupt sectors just long enough to true image and and was up until 6 am networking a church. I'll give two good examples of the contrast in my work.
1. Theres a maybe 13 year old wanting to me to build a pc and he wants his dad in on it. I'm allowing them to build the pc (with my supervision so they dont mess anything up) together so they can have some practical knowledge and also have that father son experience. Thats a good one.
2. I was doing a networking job and was recommending a network cabinet for the job before I started but the client didn't want it. So i worked 27 hours straight networking for him. Then he says 'yknow what, a networking cabinet would do great' at 11 at fucking night I have to drive 40 minutes to a city and buy a cabinet from a COMPETITOR and start all over because this picky prick didn't listen to my advice the first time I offered it.
So theres definitely good and bad to my work. i love it but theres times that just..I want to punch a wall cause a customer is annoying me while im working, or a computer is unreasonably not working, as in theres no reason it shouldnt be fixed. and i just retry something that didnt work and it magically works.

Jackson Wright
Jackson Wright

I don't love it but it is enjoyable generally and I feel like i'm learning a lot

Hunter Martinez
Hunter Martinez

When I was a kid, I took apart phones and electronics, trying to figure out how they worked.
When I was in my early teens, I wrote a website with login and CRUD capabilities.
When I got into uni, I started programming in my spare time.

Now design and maintain systems for a living while making more than the average public sector MD does. So yeah, I love my job.

Isaiah Phillips
Isaiah Phillips

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I scrape Craigslist all the time.

Lucas Mitchell
Lucas Mitchell

this .

Cameron Miller
Cameron Miller

browse these threads
they're always chock full of 200k-starting-wherever-i-want-math-ph.d's complaining about nothing

anyone else make like 15-25k? is there anyone here just poor and miserable -- a similar/equivalent question: any other southern anons? i assume we're mostly just too scared or feel too out of place to post

Blake Scott
Blake Scott

Fuck no. I'm stuck in a dead end front desk job at a hotel that doesn't give half a fuck about its employees, tenured or otherwise. Always trying to get out but the so-called employee's market is working against me at every turn.

Leo Carter
Leo Carter

cable guy here
job itself is comfy aside from dipshit customers, corporate bullshit, and the weather

Cooper King
Cooper King

The only thing I do not love is the miserable pay. $60K, when others rake in good six figures. I'm not in the US and a health issue won't kill me. Also sitting on about $150K and I can live off less than $1K / month, which gives me 12 years of fuck you money.

Andrew Richardson
Andrew Richardson

do nothing but replying e-mails for foreign customers
shitpost and play games on my phone all day long
get paid 5k a month

I think I like it yeah.

Nicholas Roberts
Nicholas Roberts

Like the drug people: repackage it and sell it off.

Evan Torres
Evan Torres

Yeah. Air traffic control is a pretty sweet gig.

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Andrew Hill
Andrew Hill

Riddim Dubstep Trance producer.

I do mad drugs make music then go on tour.

Pretty g8

Open Source Autist in free time

Jaxon Martin
Jaxon Martin

I think I'm going to leave my IT job to work at an organic market. Right now I'm doing tier 1 &2 with a bad commute and too little pay, plus shitty managers minus one or two. I have no idea how you guys get 80k+ jobs without going mad grinding experience first

Jacob Moore
Jacob Moore

Title?

Nathaniel Scott
Nathaniel Scott

Translator for the whole office, they forward me the e-mails I translate them then write a reply when our side wants to send it.

Alexander Evans
Alexander Evans

the answer is almost certainly that they live in a more urban area

Julian Peterson
Julian Peterson

what laguanges?

chinese?

Angel Smith
Angel Smith

Fuck no. It's boring as shit. I used to like coding and fucking around with computers for fun, but now I can't stand it.

t. wagecuck developer drone for a huge company

Nolan Hill
Nolan Hill

No, but for now I'm almost my own boss. Once shit get better I'll probably change how this works.

Colton Nelson
Colton Nelson

i'm a musician and the sheer amount of boring work I have to do to make 25k a year is enough to make me get some cert and move on

Jayden Taylor
Jayden Taylor

Am making 15k part time in retail in the south. Finishing college soon and have accepted a 70k govt job up north. Kinda bittersweet though since cost of living is high and I don't like the cold

Nathan Ramirez
Nathan Ramirez

yea I work at a grocery store part time and make jack shit but im also in school for cs. I have an interview with USPS on tuesday it pays better than the grocery store at least ($17/hr). i live with my mom and my last semester is in the fall. I just want to move out soon. I'll worry about the tech job shit later.

Nolan Ross
Nolan Ross

I use to. Now they've killed any enthusiasm I've ever had.
New owners, asian. They are without a doubt the cheapest human beings I have ever met in my life.

They gather office supplies at conventions. Half the time the pens don't work. They go through the trash and want an explanation if something is completely not used, such as paper, pens, paperclips. They cut up old paper to use as note pads, even though, it's already written on. They horde paper towels, paper plates, toilet paper, air fresheners, trash bags, napkins, etc under their desk. We have to ask permission to have any, AFTER they look to see if it's out.
We are all at will employees. Overtime is prohibited. Comp time is prohibited. When they need someone to work off the wall hours to complete a project, they simply change a person's schedule temporarily. They send people home when it gets slow. They take home and wash in their washing machine dirty rags soaked in industrial chemicals to save ten dollars and bring it back for us to use. The front desk girl asked to stay 30 minutes longer than her normal shift, which is SIX dollars extra and said, "No, no way, we can't do that, leave at your normal time."
I can go on forever. Needless to say, I am actively looking for a new job.

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Kevin Barnes
Kevin Barnes

"love" is a strong word. I don't work as a blowjob tester. But being a developer is pretty good with the right team.

Nathan Watson
Nathan Watson

They gather office supplies at conventions. Half the time the pens don't work. They go through the trash and want an explanation if something is completely not used, such as paper, pens, paperclips. They cut up old paper to use as note pads, even though, it's already written on. They horde paper towels, paper plates, toilet paper, air fresheners, trash bags, napkins, etc under their desk. We have to ask permission to have any, AFTER they look to see if it's out.
My company is big on recycling and not wasting paper and shit but Jesus Christ. What type of Asians are we talking here?

Isaiah Mitchell
Isaiah Mitchell

Korean/chinese. When there's a mistake, they try to take it out of our pay. When we got a new POS system, had ONE training session, we were expected to know it perfectly. My coworker screwed up, someone got something for free and they said we'll take it out in payments from your check. They say it was "gross negligence" so within the confines of the law they can take it out.

I remember I found I could find ink half of what we normally paid through a rep, good guy. The asians looked for a week straight to find it 2 dollars cheaper, walks up to the rep when he comes in and says, "Your brand is expensive, I can find two dollars less online, will you match the price?" They laughed and said no. Now we use cheap ink, that doesn't work properly to save two dollars. It goes without saying they accept NO REFUNDS, under any circumstance.

Brayden Long
Brayden Long

Not anymore

Lucas Torres
Lucas Torres

definitely report them on the pay thing; huge no-no, even in the heavily employer-favoring environment of the US

Jace Martinez
Jace Martinez

If you get a very good job with high pay, do you just masturbate to the high number of currency in your savings account while still spending as frugally as you do now?

Carson Ortiz
Carson Ortiz

I used to love it. Then I got severe burnout and exhaustion. Now I am recovering on health insurance and I don't know what I want in life anymore. It's been two months on medical leave now and I still don't feel like I can function normally. Might kill myself soon.

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Xavier Richardson
Xavier Richardson

Yes actually. I'm working tier 1 and I thought I'd hate it.
Turns out I find helping computer illiterate boomers use Windows rewarding. It also makes me feel like I'm a God with computers. I even write idiot proof picture guides for common things to make my workload more efficient.
Weird error code starts showing up? Google finds it 99.9% of the time
User requests something stupid? I don't care, it's not my job to tell them no, escalate to my manager since they'll eventually email them directly anyway.
user how do I do X??
give me a minute I'll email you the instructions
wow that was easy thank you so much user you're the best!
For $45k + benefits I'm a happy camper, should be getting yearly raises as well.

Easton Wilson
Easton Wilson

Not worried about cancer and other radiation issues?

Wyatt Adams
Wyatt Adams

Program complex database queries that structures data in an efficient way for how the company flows
Week passes
Executives change literally every aspect of how the company functions
"Why isn't your program working user?"
Have to rework everything I've programmed to accommodate the changes
Another week passes
Same thing happens all over again

No yeah I love it

Caleb Garcia
Caleb Garcia

This

David Peterson
David Peterson

I used to be a network admin, got a CCNA like you.

I ended up switching to programming and haven't looked back. You'd be surprised how few programmers understand 'the network' and how valuable that experience is, particularly if you're working on the low-level.

My experience won't necessarily match yours, but at least for me I went from bosses who would tear me apart for being a few minutes late and making 40k/yr to being able to take vacation days at leisure, provide my own schedules for getting work done and making 125k a year just by learning to code.

Eli Long
Eli Long

I always curious how people without jobs live outside of Europe where it is trivially easy getting benefits. American anons how do you do it?

-t wagecuck

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Mason Morgan
Mason Morgan

IOT engineer
Pretty much cowboy 8 different technologies together all day
Never a dull moment.

Jace Hall
Jace Hall

with family who hate us usually

Leo James
Leo James

What you mean like sockets framing crc and stuff?

Ayden Young
Ayden Young

I'm a line cook, so no.
Parts of it I love tho.
free food...

Christian Wright
Christian Wright

Dude just save up some money then disappear and get a job you want to work.

Isaiah Thomas
Isaiah Thomas

Software dev here. Don't care for it. The codebase is slop. The tech stack is oddball shit up and down.

Still, the market is fukken full. Say all you want about having a Jow Forums approved portfolio and all this other shit, but it's a buyer's market. What they don't tell you about being a software developer is that there is no end game. The whole "grow into middle management" is gone and doesn't appear to be coming back.

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Robert Walker
Robert Walker

If the boss is looking over your shoulder you may not be able to utilise wasted time. At which point your job is a prison.

I have a network engineering degree. There was only one required course on networking in the whole degree. It was called... Network Engineering. You need certs to work in the field. You have to pay for those certs and keep them refreshed (monetarily). University teaches you nothing, yet the paper is required.

More money up to middle class will make you happier. What hobby can you honestly afford?
Also are you full time? you could have a better paid job and work part time. Or spend money on things that will net you time (buy meals, pay for cleaning, car with city parking vs train, throwing money at it vs shopping around).

putting a request here to get access to this and that
I'd love a job in that. It makes for a far more interesting puzzle. I'm too junior I think for that sort of thing to even be advertised though. I've been trying to guess at it and apply, but there are only so many companies doing something obviously along those lines, like traffic management or fintech.

Gavin Hughes
Gavin Hughes

Sys admin for a state hospital EHR system. It is just me and one other guy. We have over 2000+ end users across 7 different systems.

I'm fucking drowning in support tickets.

HELP

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Kayden Martin
Kayden Martin

My current job is in webdev. I'm a contractor for a contractor for the customer. I work with one other person.

The work itself has managed to stay interesting since the second I started to gain competence in the first stack I was moved over to another (I assume my predecessor did this to avoid getting bored).

But I'm not paid well, the employment is temporary, there is no chance of promotion and I had to sign a non-compete. I work with literally one other person, but I *need* to be meeting people (this isn't getting done in my personal or social life). Also there's not a lot of recognition. There's a task list and when it's done I either get another or my contract ends. I don't feel like I'm helping anyone since I barely interact with the customer.

Lastly I'm wasting my abilities and I suspect by taking this job I am forcing myself down a web dev path. I was promised mobile dev and a possibility of some low level / hardware stuff, but they haven't really panned out. I wanted to get into some lowish level real time programming.

TL;DR it's alright, but I'm not satisfied and can't stay.

Nathan Anderson
Nathan Anderson

You start by lowering your work pace substantially. 1 hour lunch. Morning tea. Meetings. Responsibility over others / secondary duties that keep your work varied.
Ideally it's not 8 hours in a chair coding.

Nathan Flores
Nathan Flores

sign a non-compete
For your own sake, check your state laws about that. If you know you're heading towards possible unemployment, you need to know your rights and what your former employer is allowed to do to you.

Thomas Long
Thomas Long

Since I got through the recruitment company they take a lot off the top, but they handle my health insurance and taking out taxes as well as getting me jobs so they deserve a cut.
Being Australian I am quite displeased with this setup. In an attempt to remove the pension the government made it mandatory to put 10% of your income into superannuation (basically an investment account). Your insurance comes out of that, including life insurance I don't want since I'm heirless. The tax is also taken directly out of my pay check as per government scheme, but the working is quite inaccurate and I'm over paying by a lot. I complained, but It's being done by government supplied charts, not by the contracting company's accountants (as it can be). I'll get the money back end of financial year, of course. But as I see it my contracting company don't do a lot and take 2/3 of my charged rate.

Jonathan Butler
Jonathan Butler

Sounds like you've got some nice job security there.

Camden Johnson
Camden Johnson

Also took 3 courses. I know that shit from learning online. College courses = brainlet tier basics.

Connor Morris
Connor Morris

I love my job, I love going to work and i love my work life balance, i love my coworkers, i love the city i live in, lifes really good friends.

Hudson Gutierrez
Hudson Gutierrez

Ahem. The new acronym is FAAG thank you very much.

I'm there too. It sucks balls having to live in a bug hive if you moved from a comfy town (like I did). But after some years you might be able to transfer to an office in a smaller metro and things wont be so bad. Hang in there.

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Christian Bailey
Christian Bailey

Love it. I build antennas for research. I didnt think I would enjoy designing antennas, but there's something so satisfying about taking raw materials and building a device that can blast 5GHz signals for miles.

Connor Wilson
Connor Wilson

I'm glad you guys made it.

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Kevin Cruz
Kevin Cruz

No.

Camden Cox
Camden Cox

Not really a Jow Forums job, but I work in a biological research lab.

It fucking sucks. 4 yearsof STEM education at a good school then 5 years of experience in the field I only make $40K. I live in a small city so its enough to afford a shitty one bedroom apartment and eat out at the shitty restaurants in the city as much as i want, but I've basically already peaked without an advanced degree

i made like $15K less at my previous job but had way more freedom, basically worked only 6 hours a day and extremely flexible time off, at least once a month i'd just fuck off for a day, then spring break, two weeks at christmas, at least a random week in summer, any major holiday, three days at thanksgiving

now for not that much more dosh everyone looks over their shoulder and if i even have two unaccounted for hours in the middle of the day people notice and comment on it. fookin sucks, anyone got ideas on full time jobs with benefits that only need you to be around like 20 hours a week?

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Bentley Anderson
Bentley Anderson

Software dev. I don't mind it, but I just wish I didn't have to drive an hour and thirty every fucking day. My city has 0 software jobs.

Asher Stewart
Asher Stewart

i really hope that includes to and from trips. my commute is similar, and it's for a shitty awful job, not software dev

Ethan Sullivan
Ethan Sullivan

40k for a job like that sounds insanely low. you probably take home like 32k after taxes?

David Sanders
David Sanders

I thought most free software was the product of paying companies that don't think they can make money of a product or want to introduce some sort of standard. Or a contract setup where whatever you write for a client is open source.

Bentley Hall
Bentley Hall

corporate concierge at a building full of "cloud" companies. nerds don't talk so I spend literally 95% of my day browsing or messing about with linux on my laptop. its completely stress free and basically a paycheck for existing, but I am very bored at times and seriously lacking fulfilment. everything I want to do requires education I can't afford, so I'm just saving and hoping I don't have to go back to manual labour

Bentley Williams
Bentley Williams

more like $25K after taxes and benefits. but i only pay $600/month for a one bedroom two minutes from work so i'm still living well within my means. if i lived in a bigger city like San Francisco i could easily find a comparable job making at least $65K but the cost of living increase would far out pace the pay increase

Jeremiah Stewart
Jeremiah Stewart

Threat hunting/Blue team analyst, its been fun when stuff gets found but it also gets old having to rerun the same Splunk queries to go after rabbit holes. I guess I like it, but I've always wanted to move into pentesting but worry that I'll start to hate it once I work under tighter deadlines

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Carter Moore
Carter Moore

work at an msp that virtualizes the environments of 90%+ of its clients to better help provide support
get tier 1 tech there right out of college

literally no documentation of anything despite having several dozen clients
clients using exchange 2010 enmasse or earlier along with our healthcare agency clients using software made before I was born along with a bunch of other end of life shit
45 hour weeks minimum since no compensated lunch but you have to work your lunch or else youll fall behind on tickets
work most weekends but no overtime since lol salary
every department hates each other

Theres so much more that I don't even know where to begin.
We just onboarded a huge company that increased the amount of people we support by 25% just a month after we fired 1/3 of our support staff
most of us are working 60 hours a week but we're still barely staying afloat

Thomas Kelly
Thomas Kelly

just opened the thread to post this

so fpbp

Ryan Martinez
Ryan Martinez

American anons how do you do it?
live with parents so pay low rent, live a modest lifestyle, earn $400/week doing jack shit and don't overspend it

Anthony Morgan
Anthony Morgan

FANG job is pretty cozy

Joseph Edwards
Joseph Edwards

your comment about healthcare hits home for me -- i work in healthcare & the software we use is so crazy ancient. the hospital i work at still relies on huge swaths of physical paper forms.

Grayson Jones
Grayson Jones

ultrawide monitor in that picture
fullscreen web browser only using the middle 1920 at most
I'm surprised browsers haven't natively built in a good tiling mode yet so you can easily have two or more pages at once as columns.

Hunter Nguyen
Hunter Nguyen

you might be my boss
how much do you you and your buddy make?

Nicholas Cook
Nicholas Cook

Or a quarter of a house in the suburbs

Asher Brooks
Asher Brooks

I've heard it's shit hours, requires you to remain focused all day, has fierce competition and everyone is just waiting to fire you the second you fuck up.

Colton Nguyen
Colton Nguyen

The company that is paying me offers nothing. The non compete prevents me from working directly for their customers or their customers customers. So I can't cut them out, useless middlemen that they are.
I can find a job in the same industry, I just can't network. Which is an annoying circumstance given it's my first real job.

Jaxon Flores
Jaxon Flores

We just onboarded a huge company that increased the amount of people we support by 25% just a month after we fired 1/3 of our support staff
So you're saying your value just rose by 58%? time for negotiations.

Adam Clark
Adam Clark

So you're saying your value just rose by 58%? time for negotiations.
A company that was dumb enough to do that is also dumb enough to fire him just for asking.

Sebastian Sanders
Sebastian Sanders

I wouldn't say love it but I don't really hate it. FAANG software dev and I sort of got shunted into web development. I hate CSS/HTML work, but I'm far enough removed from the actual UI that I can tolerate it for the paycheck. I'd be singing a different tune if it paid less but I can spend freely on what hobbies I do have and still plan to retire in my mid 30s.

Noah Barnes
Noah Barnes

fucking this.
except I make 80k. Thank you public sector.

Kevin Gray
Kevin Gray

I do temp work for physical hardware, going through right now for cyber sec, I don't like the heat from the unconditioned rooms.

Robert Perry
Robert Perry

Isn't that illegal? I thought the idea of minimum wage was that everyone got it.

Jose Barnes
Jose Barnes

I work at a restaurant while doing my summer internship.
My paychecks go straight to the bottomless moneyhole that is a fucking IT degree

Xavier Martin
Xavier Martin

Fuck. All these people with these CS-related jobs and how miserable it is and here I am, entering college proudly looking forward to a CS degree. What should I do?

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Julian James
Julian James

programmer at car tuning shop
blue collar banter all day

It's fucking incredible.

Christian Edwards
Christian Edwards

I think it's kind of overblown. People tend to hate their jobs in most fields; most people would not be doing their jobs if they didn't get paid for it. Just make sure you're getting paid enough and then retire early or do something you actually care about. If you care about fulfillment try to get a job where the end result of your code does something useful instead of just another shitty web job. Also don't work for companies that treat their software engineers poorly and definitely don't go into games.

But the worst part about knowing how to code isn't the jobs you do for money. It's that when something sucks about a piece of software you're using, instead of just giving up and living with it like a normal person, you actually can fix it yourself or build an alternative and you end up wasting a ton of time on it. Often more time than you would have spent just dealing with whatever the problem was. You can't escape that.

James Gray
James Gray

Idek where to start. I've only done basic research and starting salaries for a software engineer (my interest) is ~65k. Is that good? bad? What other field should I be focusing on, current market trends? I'm all by myself and friends and family won't help THAT much.

John Wilson
John Wilson

University IT. Thanks to SJWs, it's practically impossible to get fired without a lengthy due process, and workloads are generally lower than corps.I enjoy it. But you do have to deal with summer projects, university politics, and entitled professors.

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Thomas Rogers
Thomas Rogers

Look in to it further and you have been brainwashed to believe that you can't be poor and happy at the same time. You are led to believe that if you earn less you will be less happy than you are now. I was in a similar situation multiple times already and looking back I was always happiest when I was broke, not when I was earning.

Charles Rodriguez
Charles Rodriguez

65k (USD assumed) seems low but it depends where you are. The floor in the bay area for fresh out of uni jobs is 100k+ USD, and FAANG will include bonuses and stock on top of that. Usually I'd say to avoid the bay area but if 65k is the best you can do locally it's probably worth looking into.

Henry Baker
Henry Baker

The research is pretty clear that just the feeling of being poor makes people more miserable. There's also the difference between "broke" and actually broke where you're just a bit of bad luck away from not making ends meet. It's not worth destroying your health for and any workplace that forces you into long or repeated crunch is one you should get out of, but "happy but poor" is a bunch of propaganda.

Nathan Jones
Nathan Jones

- Love is exaggeration, so no. One must be vary of being attached emotionally to job way too strong.
- I do enjoy it though, however you should consider changing job from time to time (some says that 2 years is good) so you won't suffer from burning out or any other kind frustration which grows over the time.
- About the job, it is software development in R&D section. It's neat when you along with colleagues are tasked with creating software from scratch and face with variety of user stories, requirements, limitations.

Kevin Diaz
Kevin Diaz

I write clojure and do DevOps stuff for a small SW company in Europe that pays pretty damn well. The products we make are pretty crappy, but that's what our customers pay for, so that's what they're getting. The pay is slightly below the standard, but I can afford to rent a house and to live in there with my family, so I can't really complain.

Slowly but steadily studying data science stuff in my free time in order to level up my game one day. Everything feels pretty good.

I honestly think that more than 50% of the entitled shits up here who are not happy with their job should just recheck their priorities in life. Most of the people our age can't even find a job because there's more people than vacancies, and those who have it - except for a few industries, like CS/IT or medicine - usually get a starvation-level pay. I bet that those of you gaylords who are unhappy are either frustrated for personal reasons or are just having unreasonably high standards.

Easton Flores
Easton Flores

Adam Wan?

Brody Walker
Brody Walker

Software engineer writing real time java for missiles, pay is about $85k/year but the hours are pretty long. Work can be really boring as the paperwork to even try your patches on the system can take days to even get okayed.

Josiah Robinson
Josiah Robinson

Jannies

Brody Cooper
Brody Cooper

I sell books at a local store in real life. Comfy, we're only five staff and everybody is treated as equal even though i'm clearly the youngest and without any experience (was a scientist before). Wages are low but I have a say in what direction the program should go, delivering books to local uni institutions on my bike in the sun, having a coffee and a chat with nice costumers at the ca. 50 yo register – life can be good.

Jeremiah Watson
Jeremiah Watson

I work in Toronto at a major financial institution, pay is fairly high by Canadian standards 130kish cad. I work somewhere in the realm of research but using proprietary corporate data. I don't think I will stay another year, coming from NYC the scale of business and quality of work just isn't there

Nathaniel Cruz
Nathaniel Cruz

unfortunately this.

Juan Rogers
Juan Rogers

Yes. Good coworkers, pay and benefits plus 3 min commute by foot.

Jackson Watson
Jackson Watson

Sr. Software Dev

Hate it but love as a hobby.

Jordan Morgan
Jordan Morgan

i sell zero days to russians for BTC and XMR. made 3.5million USD this year. feelsgoodman

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James White
James White

where do you get them

Luis Baker
Luis Baker

i find them you retard

Tyler Moore
Tyler Moore

yes but where

Jace Roberts
Jace Roberts

browser,OS, drivers, network tools, nginx, apache

Owen Hill
Owen Hill

Tell me more about this. How'd you learn how to do this? How do you find russians to buy this shit?

Lincoln Jenkins
Lincoln Jenkins

i learned assembly since i was 12. so for 10 years now doing this.
there are forums on clearnet and deepweb. never sell to whitehat cucks like zerodium bc criminals will pay 10x more and even more just so you dont resell it or report to vendor.

Anthony Garcia
Anthony Garcia

Links to gain more info about this? Been looking to get into exploits for a bit now.

Samuel Cook
Samuel Cook

this

Cooper Stewart
Cooper Stewart

Sys Admin here

I work in a data center. Set up clusters, monitor, do errands for other branches and customers, talk to boss what stuff to order etc. Much social interaction. It's nice. You are at the pinnacle of the process. People need you to do shit which only you can do and on the other hand you command an army of minions who do the trivial stuff.

You got always something to do and mostly can do stuff at your own pace... Responsibility is high though and when problems arise you are expected to work until its fixed or until you loose consciousness due to fatigue.

Yeah, I like it and it's highly rewarding.

Jaxon Adams
Jaxon Adams

Got a discord?

Leo Brooks
Leo Brooks

Comfy

Landon Morales
Landon Morales

It isn't great, but also not terrible. Working as a cashier is braindead easy. Just wish I made more money. I need a new computer.

Daniel Ramirez
Daniel Ramirez

No. I work in flight controls software and the amount of hoops we are required to jump through for one small change is retarded. I get WHY the hoops are there but it's all so slow.
Boeing says they will have their fix for the max by September or something. I guarantee there is already a tested build out there that implements the fix. But the hoops man. The hoops.
The reviews suck. I work with dozens of replaceable pajeets that spaghettify everything or can't do their jobs right the first time.

Sebastian Hughes
Sebastian Hughes

Fuck. All these people with these CS-related jobs and how miserable it is and here I am, entering college proudly looking forward to a CS degree. What should I do?

Don't listen to these bitchmade pussies

Admittedly my first CS job was trash but it just wasn't a fit for me. I found something I like to do and then found an entire job devoted to it. You just need to go out and get some experience so you know what you want to do

Aiden Diaz
Aiden Diaz

1 hour away at lunch reading paperback books.
2x 15 minute breaks walking around the office.
4x piss breaks/grab coffee/snack.
Basically get up and walk around every hour.

Cooper Powell
Cooper Powell

It's what those two said...
... AND doing your job well when it is essential - i.e. when SHTF - then you can work at your own pace and fuckers won't dare to question your work morale. Take your freedoms in a progressive manner. Take responsibility over others and do not fear investing and trusting people.

Brayden Miller
Brayden Miller

Not really, but I get paid...

Aaron Campbell
Aaron Campbell

I do pretty much nothing and make good money doing it.

Only a retard would bitch about this. Play games or learn a new skill if you're not doing much.

Angel Thompson
Angel Thompson

make 20 grand a year, but my life is actually fucking amazing.

Enjoy living in a shoebox.

Tyler Lewis
Tyler Lewis

Mostly freelance but I have a recruitment company that secures me tons of contracts and a lot of them last for at least a year.

Give a year or two and a bigger company will acquire your company, fire your ass and give all the contracts to pajeets for a tenth of what they paid you. You'll be unemployed and the executives will laugh themselves to the bank.

Connor Campbell
Connor Campbell

so they deserve a cut

If you enjoy getting cucked by a company who takes a substantial amount of your pay, continue. Otherwise, start your own company or find contracts yourself.

Dominic Morris
Dominic Morris

I'm living off loans right now
kys. you'll never climb out of this hole.

Logan Nguyen
Logan Nguyen

Since my first job I've been doing PC related stuff, first operating, then fixing, reinstalling and operating...
I FUCKING LOVE IT!

Lucas Peterson
Lucas Peterson

I work in Eastern European financial institution and I hate this job more and more. Most annoying is working with idiots, which knows nothing, everything they touch, they fuck it up, but they are kept for no reason. I'm kind of guru here, no new project runs without my approval, but those idiots drives me mad and now I'm on my way to get fuck out of here.

Jayden Perry
Jayden Perry

it's not when you are a third worlder and you work as a student, instead of being protected by labor law, not that being protected by it or receiving the shitty minimum wage would make great difference at all

Jason Green
Jason Green

I've been at a cybersecurity internship at Visa for a month now and I hate it. Not only is the 9-5 thing really not for me, but the work I'm doing is complete bullshit and not even technical. I'm currently writing documentation, that I will then turn into flow charts, around how to properly use the security tools on employee laptops. Bringing myself to actually do it in the day is a challenge in itself, knowing how much time I'm wasting that I could dedicate towards learning actual cybersecurity. I guess I shouldn't had expected much from an internship but this really feels like bullshit.

Lincoln Kelly
Lincoln Kelly

Everyone except the government. I have twice worked for less than minimum wage. Once for a charity in exchange for unemployment benefits (the equivalent of about half of minimum wage) and once as an AI researcher (75% of minimum wage). Ignoring wage theft substantial enough to reduce your over all wage to below the minimum, of course. I was a salesman for that.

Adrian Perez
Adrian Perez

Either you find a job as a student and get screwed on money, guaranteeing you a palatable job upon graduation, or you enter the workforce with zero experience and take whatever you can, waiting a few years for the money to ramp up. Of course the former is unlikely to speed up your wage increases, but the latter may result in a large period of unemployment which will delay pay increases.

Angel Allen
Angel Allen

or can't do their jobs right the first time
If you have dedicated testers that may be optimal.

Robert Diaz
Robert Diaz

There is an art to writing documentation. It is a field in and of itself. You don't want to work at a company that uses it to haze graduates because they don't respect the field. There are companies that pay very well for this work. A friend of mine works for a defence contractor writing documentation. He was hired at 80k with no work experience straight out of university (graduates earn 60-70 here).

Samuel Harris
Samuel Harris

Wyd for music related work? I'm almost done music school, not sure what to do with my paper.
At least get out and experience something new and cool before you resign from life.
Don't be boring user.

Ayden Barnes
Ayden Barnes

I'm ; as of now, I work in a family store which fucking sucks. Really labor intensive and I had back crambs a couple of times. I'm still 18, and my father just gives me whatever every week (usually 400-500USD). I mean, I don't pay taxes or anything, Don't even know how. But my future has always been driven by anxiety and how it'll turn out. So far, its good I guess. Full year tuition grants, credit-boosted for the first semester etc.

Asher Smith
Asher Smith

I love what it can mean down the road, so yes absolutely.

SYS Admin

Grayson Myers
Grayson Myers

I meant an industry related job as a student.
Labouring won't help beyond the money it offers.

Jonathan Smith
Jonathan Smith

based

Austin Cook
Austin Cook

which online courses were those?

Dylan Jackson
Dylan Jackson

Almost everyone does nothing useful at internships. No manager wants to give an important task to someone leaving in a few months

Luis James
Luis James

I’m a starving freelancer, yet I’d rather die than go back to an office.

Christian Hughes
Christian Hughes

pay is excellent, workplace is nice

can't complain other than i'm not doing more, but money keeps me staying

Nicholas Bailey
Nicholas Bailey

I like my work, but I can't seem to escape the apparent requirement to spoonfeed people who have no business being in this industry

Jackson Collins
Jackson Collins

I have this same experience. I suggest to anyone in any IT role to learn programming, once you get around some mental humps it's pretty easy

Nicholas Flores
Nicholas Flores

Or at least learn to script and get away from point-and-click. The typical Windows admin role will be dead in 5 years.

Adam Richardson
Adam Richardson

I used to not like my job so much but I am starting a new one that I love. I work in the life/environmental sciences and really learned to love technology. Eventually programming became an integral part of my workflow, and people seem to appreciate the smallest amount of computational skill in the field (lucky for me because I still have so much to learn).

The pay could be much better though.

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Daniel Evans
Daniel Evans

I used to be a run of the mill sysadmin and then I got into cloud engineering. It's amazing how many people here don't know anything about networking or basic systems administration

Easton Scott
Easton Scott

I can't speak to your experience, nor can I assume the amount of pain you are in. What I can say is that I've been through some shit, near death, felt like my goals were unobtainable, and like I would never have enough time.

Remember to take care of yourself and other things will start falling into place. Try cooking something new or singing. First it will feel numb and like you are only surviving. Then it is up to you to for it to feel like living.

Seek help if you can afford it. Your life is worth more than you imagine.

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Xavier Nelson
Xavier Nelson

i agree with you that everyone should add coding to their skillset
but the "this job will be gone in 5 years" has been said since the 90s

Angel Morales
Angel Morales

I do. Grew up poor, have made 6+ figures for the last 8 years, many of those with next to no bills and massive tax breaks. Still live like a cockroach and can't find it in me to spend more than I have too on things for myself.

Nathan Bennett
Nathan Bennett

Pretty much. I make 6 figures now but i still live in a $500/mo rent apartment and still drive a beater civic. I just collect money into my savings account. I don't feel any motivation to do live any differently than I used to.

Easton Roberts
Easton Roberts

came here to post this

Ethan Hill
Ethan Hill

I work at Walmart, and I like it. I've reached my dead end job because I have no education and poor as fuck. Still life is good.

Jose Perez
Jose Perez

This.

Hunter Mitchell
Hunter Mitchell

Are there even any private sector jobs left that aren't being a wagecuck to the GAFA Big Data Surveillance Complex?

Josiah Reyes
Josiah Reyes

I just switched from a different place and I'm in week 2. I like it so far, it's a lot smaller than my last place and the project I'm working on atm is clearly a little rushed to get it out the door, but the people are nice and friendly, but very quiet and the boss is away for school holidays, but he's supposed to be in this week.
I'm not in love with the job, but I'm happy with it thus far
better than old job:
-Pay went up by a 1/3
-Don't have to deal with middle management
-Looks like stuff actually happens when people say "this fucking sucks, we should do this better" instead of just hearing management say "It's noted, we'll work at fixing it." Then sitting in endless meetings where nothing is accomplished.
-NO TIMESHEETS holy fuck those fucking pieces of shit can rot in hell. What a waste of time

Things I miss
-Environment was louder and more active. We'd have a laugh and mess with each other more.
-only 1 or 2 people actually my age
-no parking space yet. Have to catch the bus like a homeless person.

All in all, i'm much happier. Not the dream job yet, but much happier.

Camden Long
Camden Long

It has its moments. Im close to yanking my bosses tongue out through his ass because he's a social retard that can't communicate. That and im under the impression he feels i dont do a lot because i dont talk about what im doing. He'll come to my cubicle like a fucking high school teacher "What are you doing?"... Um? What you fucking told me to do dumb fuck.

Austin Garcia
Austin Garcia

Post patreon

Alexander Watson
Alexander Watson

How hard is it to get into music production? I love the idea of making a couple of shitty tracks in my spare time just for the sake of doing it but have no idea how I'd even start.

Christopher Phillips
Christopher Phillips

boomers will soon start dying/retiring and there'll be where you can "grow into middle management"
It defs happens, I saw it at my last workplace when the rats started leaving the sinking ship.
Bunch of devs just sorta became management by just having to do that job.

Justin Rivera
Justin Rivera

post patreon.

Joshua Anderson
Joshua Anderson

If these threads are anything to go by, there's a few things you can take away from it
Millenials are getting royally fucked by job market
People are mostly making ~$60k on average or less. maybe closer to $50k avg for tech
If you're some niche job like anything to do with oil or underwater welding or cruise liners, they get paid a lot more, but it's hard work and harder to come by
Tech is still a very good option, despite what threads say, there's lots of jobs available
Most jobs want you to be a webshitter, which is what I do as well, that's what the fucking world wants
interviews are hell and you're guaranteed to be rejected at least a few times
CVs suck, just keep trying to make it better
Nobody's really having an easy time. Economy worldwide is trash and most are fucked.
Your codebase will suck, you'll do drone work at some point, you'll be bored and hate lots about your workplace. Everyone does, live a life outside of work too.

Get a job, stay for 2-3 years if it's ok, then move somewhere else where they pay more. Experience is always a good thing. You can make it too user.

Gabriel Cook
Gabriel Cook

80k telling boomers how to use a computer? For real?

Chase Adams
Chase Adams

Sounds like you should just set up proper version control.
"Why isn't your program working user?"
Well, sir, because that fuckwit Jenkins fucked with it and broke it, see it's all right here. If we use my version it works.

Solved.

Elijah Harris
Elijah Harris

pay?

Parker Thomas
Parker Thomas

What kind of work to FAAGs actually have you doing? Is it just mindless office drone? Or do you actually make stuff? Wondering if it'd be a good move to make bank and then retire earlier.

Wyatt Walker
Wyatt Walker

I'm a software engineer and while there's always shit that pisses you off to no end, it's the same as pretty much any job. Be proud and keep working towards it, us CS and SE people are fantastic bitchers and will moan about everything. Some is legit, some is absolute crap. Just move workplaces every 2-5 years to climb the ladder better. It's honestly a good profession and stable in comparison to almost all other degrees.

Chase Ross
Chase Ross

It's honestly pretty fun. It's a completely retarded company that doesn't care about standards, requirements, process etc., so it's basically just hobby stuff. Lately I've been redesigning our main product from the ground up just because I feel like it, and nobody's even bothering to review my work before treating it as gospel. If I want to learn how to do something, I'll just shove it into a project and nobody will even ask why I did it.

Sebastian Gonzalez
Sebastian Gonzalez

same here but in government office. people are shitty though especially when they hold public title.

Robert Morris
Robert Morris

Be honest
I don't. I'm thinking of selling my company to the highest bidder once it's big enough, moving to my parents' house on the coast, painting, and gardening

Nicholas Lewis
Nicholas Lewis

why shouldn't i go into games?

Oliver Wilson
Oliver Wilson

Pay rent to parents
Good goyim boomers, you truly are our greatest ally! Can't let these entitled white goy millenials loiter in your property free of charge...

Angel Myers
Angel Myers

pay low rent
Why do you pay rent to your parents? American families are beyond fucked

Jaxon Edwards
Jaxon Edwards

I work at a major tech company that you've heard of, but still fairly new. I don't even need to show up at the office most days as long as I keep an eye on my email and send python scripts to my boss now and again shit's cash.

Jayden Russell
Jayden Russell

Money is tight sometimes, but I am in love with my job. It's research so I get to wear whatever I want, come in whenever I want, as long as the work gets done and I help with grant proposals and shit. And I get a PhD at the end of it

Jaxson Russell
Jaxson Russell

Same but don't hate it, just dislike it

Joseph Edwards
Joseph Edwards

notoriously shitty conditions - low pay, super long hours, high stress, and generally unfulfilling (you won't be making cool tech demos).
i think EA earned the title of the worst company to work for in some national poll.

Easton Edwards
Easton Edwards

I know the head of corporate development at SAP. How do I use this connection to land me a job?

Asher Nelson
Asher Nelson

I don't love it, but it's pretty good. It's letting me see the world, it's low stress, and it's easy. The pay is shit compared to what I'd make back home, but I couldn't care less.

Elijah Rivera
Elijah Rivera

SAP pays well but working on proprietary shit sucks, though it can be easy

Michael Powell
Michael Powell

Send in your resume and attach his recommendation letter

Benjamin Ortiz
Benjamin Ortiz

Tell him you are interested in working for the company. Ask if he knows any good openings. He will say yes or no and give whatever advice on applying he feels like.

Literally that easy.