EVERYTHING CRASHES WAYLAND
HOW IS THIS ACCEPTABLE
THE DEATH OF XORG IS REAL
EVERYTHING CRASHES WAYLAND
Juan Jenkins
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Ryan Smith
works on my machine™
Austin Ross
wayland can't crash
Eli Fisher
Benjamin Davis
>github.com
can any1 explain this 4me
thanks 4channel
Alexander Long
I'm more worried about Wayland being thought as a good replacement when it has severe latency issues and forces vsync.
>b-b-but user, latency isnt a problem!
No you innocent glow in the light, some of the most-used DEs/WMs on Linux have latency so high they sometimes manage to do worse than windows 10. Some software/games already have latency up through the roof so why shoot yourself in the foot with another 50ms?
Kevin Bailey
Oh look it's this FUD again. Wayland is a protocol. It doesn't have any latency or vsync. Both those things are up to your compositor. Report your bugs in mutter, kwin, sway, or whatever.
Connor Bell
worst case scenario it works like windows where fullscreen programs and games bypass the compositor
Elijah Sanders
waylands a protocol
Ian Brooks
Sure but what about xwayland?
KDE doesn't do fullscreen unredirection anymore. And it seems to be the same for GNOME 3.
Ayden Barnes
Read the linked collabora post, when the compositor starts drawing immediately after a page flip the clients don't have time to get their updates in before the entire frame is composited. The solution is to delay compositing until the middle of the frame so the applications have time to redraw.
Caleb Mitchell
>has severe latency issues
False.
With wayland it's possible to achieve 0 frames of latency in your own applications.
And that is simply impossible on windows.
Jacob Young
And with other people's applications? In games that don't support wayland? It's the limitating factor.
Benjamin Gonzalez
Fud again? yummy
These are the kind of 4channedditors that you're arguing with
old.reddit.com
old.reddit.com
news.ycombinator.com
They are all on the same discord circlejerking
Joshua Diaz
If your application uses GTK3, Qt5, or SDL2 then it already supports wayland.
Noah Green
The thing is that the "latency issues" are not a fault of the protocol itself.
Legacy programs require workarounds. That is the issue of the compatibility layer.
Luke Brooks
oh no, i've been found!
Gavin Rivera
wtf i love wayland now
Jeremiah Phillips
wayland's a massive meme. it's fucking garbage. half the shit doesn't work and the other half works poorly.
Anthony Cox
You're partially right, for now. Most of the development (i.e. not protocol work) started ~4 years ago.
Now that the biggest maintainer of X dot ORG has announced to the world that they should work towards Wayland support everything will progress much faster.
Keep a tab on related projects and technologies that Wayland enables: better sandboxing, PipeWire, salted gamer tears, improved developer experience (remember kids: most toolkits like Qt and GTK were already ported, and Firefox and Chromium are on the way).
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Alexander Morgan
>Now that the biggest maintainer of X dot ORG has announced to the world that they should work towards Wayland support everything will progress much faster.
heh? where are you getting this from bro? haven't heard a thing about this...
Jeremiah Cruz
WAYNNIGGERS BTFO
Dylan Parker
>blogs.gnome.org
from uranus himself
Christopher Bailey
XBOX
CRASH WAYLAND FOR ME
Blake Foster
OpenBSD doesn't have this problem.
Joshua Edwards
wayland is a kernel
Dominic Thomas
Wayland is a code base, it's not even a spec let alone a standard.
Jackson Sanchez
openbsd also doesn't have working drivers or software
Dylan Scott
>gitlab.freedesktop.org
>Wayland protocols that add functionality not
available in the Wayland core protocol
>gitlab.freedesktop.org
>Core Wayland window system code and protocol
Nicholas Sullivan
Maybe you pushed the wrong button, retard.
Christian Miller
wayland is stored in the balls