Be software engineer

I hate that term. I use the term programmer. But at least software engineer is better than "coder"

>people who studied 12 hours every day for 5-6 years in highly intellectual scientific fields
If software engineering is a piss easy study, that's a problem with your educational system, not people calling themselves an engineer.

A dentist is fully qualified to do oral surgery. This makes him at least viable for surgeon, a form of doctor.

software engineering is not a highly intellectual field m8,
try physical chemistry,
solid state physics,
manifolds and topology,
etc.

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Computer science has the lowest completion rate, therefore making it the most challenging.

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> ITT People who don't understand the difference between Software Engineering and being a developer.

Software Engineer, is a branch of Electronic/Computer Engineering which in turn is a branch of Electrical Engineering.

But Code Monkeys use the term software engineering when circle jerking, and many businesses want software engineers to move data from spreadsheets to a DB or to put buttons on webpages...

literally any retard can get a software "engineer" degree. Yes its piss easy, relative to actual scientific endeavours. Its easier to get a software degree in the capital then joining the army. The army actually has proper standards, like being more physically fit and mentally stable than way over 50% of the population. In software you dont need larger than a 100 IQ to succeed and become an engineer.

everyone does this. back when I was a mechanic I had business cards that said field service engineer on them. i barely graduated highschool geometry.

uio.no/studier/program/elektronikk-it/opptak/
>46.8 points minimum
>i.e. not even a B average
im sorry bro but software engineering is retarded and for normie retards

>be IT architect
>call myself an architect

dentists are MDs are though

brush your teeth floss use this mouth wash dont eat sweets and chips thanks goy that will be 1000$

Yeah, it's so easy that 45% of people who attempt it, more than any other field, can't complete it!

dentists are not MDs. they are DDS.

most people consider "engineering" as something physical. software engineer should call themselves developers IMO.

I hate calling myself an engineer because literally all software engineering involves is learning from blogs and stack overflow.
Of course I still call myself a Software Engineer on tinder because those stupid whores don't know the difference.

Would you call embedded software engineers developers too?

i'm a man but i call myself woman

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It's the same in the US. If you're not licenced you're not really an engineer. But companies can make job titles sound as fancy as they like.

if your mistakes don't lead to people dying you're not an engineer.

ITT: seething unemployed physics majors coping

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are u a butthurt faggot software engineer perhaps

car mechanics, electricians and bugs fumigators confirmed 300IQ chads

>try to find the janitor
>janitor is angry because his title says 'Maintenance Engineer'

Basically the same shit OP.

Server Janitor

CS chads make way more than engineers, if course they cling to tiniest things

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i prefer the term "caffeine emperor"

>CS chads make more than engineers
kek

Okay. Next time you have an infected tooth, why don't you just ask your buddy to drill out the root for you? It's trivial, after all. Definitely doesn't require a few thousand hours of education and practice to master.
Next you'll say that veterinarians don't know shit, and you could definitely diagnose and treat any medical issue across the dozens of common pet species, even if it required surgery.

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I'm a data scientist and call myself a scientist. It works much better with women. Imaging WANTING to call yourself an engineer in 2019 lol.

If that were true, my dentist wouldn't have referred me to an oral surgeon for my wisdom teeth

Cool argument bro, give it again sometime.

What about "Network Engineer"

Does this make the EE/ME seethe?

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~_0 learn to write english nigga

Programmers rise up!

Mathfags have autism

I'm a Python engineer lmfao

And I get the pussy

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This is more about demand and popularity user. physics has same grade requirements.

>needing a few thousand hours of education and practice to tell people to brush and floss
Shiggity diggity do

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Idk I just call myself a programmer. Software engineer sounds nerdy, wimpy, and gay. Us Slavs call ourselves programmers.

Filling cavities is not something I could do myself.

>Make way more than engineers
>Doubt.jpg

Enjoy the street surgery, pajeet.

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Damn looks like being jobless is a choice nowadays

You're wrong. Doctored treat diseases , Dentists treat diseases. Engineers Build Things, repair things, maintain things physically, Software engineers build, repair maintain things digitally. Now you can fuck off.

I prefer coding ninja myself

Truthpilled. However, assembling a car doesn't make you an automotive engineer, and building a website by copy/pasting from SO doesn't make you a software engineer. There is a problem in the field, that such copy-paste code monkeys get the title """software engineer""", totally diluting the term.

Stunning and brave

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It's because people drop out more since it's the kind of people that would drop out. Also a lot of normies come in and discover it's autistic af.

>and many businesses want software engineers to move data from spreadsheets to a DB or to put buttons on webpages...

This is basically my job, can't believe I'm getting paid for this shit. Boomers are so retarded.

I know people who took MDMA every week for months on end and they still became a web developer lol

Because you don't have a PE or the base education of every actual engineering profession. It's a completely separate field and in all likelihood you will never have to sign off on something that may directly impact peoples lives, ie kill or maim them. Also, in a lot of places you could get your ass in a lot of legal trouble, since engineer is a protected title.

Be audio engineer, call myself engineer to mechanical engineer boomers. They lose their shit, but cannot tell me what dithering is. Check mate.

What is a Doctor of Dental Surgery and Doctor of Dental Medicine? You faggots are the ones who say PhDs aren't real doctors too because you too stupid to realize what a doctor is and isn't. SPOILERS an MD isn't the only doctor.

>There is no software involved in critical systems
Get your head out of your ass, not all engineers work exclusively on high risk systems.

> software engineer
> npm install
> 12,057 dependencies
> 400 vulnerabilities
> push to production
> Endanger the security of thousands of people
> Engineer

>nigger memes
>>>/reddit/

Have you ever worked with civil engineers? Absolutely tech illiterates.

I can larp as a GP
>refer to specialist / (arse covering over my head)
>refer to specialist / (arse covering over my head)
>refer to specialist / (arse covering over my head)
>take 2 aspirin and book me next week
>refer to specialist / (arse covering over my head)

How'd I do guys?

Because they ignore the definition of the word. Literally who fucking cares?

I prefer "toothomancer".

>mechanical engineer
>Doesn't know what dithering is
Wow what retards. You shouldn't feel equal to them, you should feel superior.

I like to think of myself more as a "code master"

>people who studied 12 hours every day for 5-6 years in highly intellectual scientific fields

LMAO this is what engineers think of themselves

I have a humanities Ph.D. Should I use the "Dr." prefix?

and UC Santa Cruz has the lowest graduation rate in the University of California system.
Must be the most challenging, right?

It's your right to do so, so why not?

>his job description isnt Data Evangelist

CS pays way higher than most of the engineering fields, dont know what you guys are smoking.

Not sure if this is representative but when I graduated with a bachelor's in CS I got my first job in 2 months with 90k a year in pay.

i'm allowed to write my own job title

for python dev can i put "professional python choker"?

>CS is high IQ job
>our field will always have a high demand so my salary will only keep going up
>no normies to overinflate the supply

Literally the repill of neetbux

>be intentionally deceptive to make yourself look more impressive than you are
>hurr durr hurrrrrrr why are people calling me on my bullshit

Not a single line of this is true, it's an over-inflated meme industry full of trannies and diversity hires that treat everyone else like shit, and any programmer not skilled enough to automate most of their job will be out of work soon

Because you are not an engineer

You're talking about all the virtue signaling fags in SV. I live in the midwest where coding jobs are vast and you're hailed as a king for knowing how to use a computer. I'm pretty much the triumvirate of what people want in a programmer since I know so many technologies. Get paid well and hardly have to pay that much for renting a home.

Being a coder is pretty much riding life on easy mode.

Then why are we called engineers?

for the same reason a submarine helmsman is called a pilot

Not really engineering. Not much science, math, physics, or physical skill required.
I have a degree in computer engineering and computer science and need to cite both to keep either from getting triggered. Or I just say "computers" because I'm not so proud it hurts when people assume I don't have a degree.

Not true. You get sent to a real hospital.
>dental 'hospital' sent me to a real hospital for surgery

Missouri bro? Fellow midwestern here. How much are you making, and years of experience? Im at 70k and this is my first job out of college

>Software Engineer, is a branch of Electronic/Computer Engineering which in turn is a branch of Electrical Engineering.
It's a branch of computer science, unlikely electronic/computer/electrical engineering. You don't actually study circuits as a software engineer.

Ew

Medical doctor =/= doctor.

jokes on you, computer science is a branch of electrical engineering

They are doctors, you schmuck.

studies optics

>Why does this make some people seeth?

Butthurt STEMfags with irrelevant degrees angry that they can't get software engineering jobs.

Didn't "doctors" take the term from phd's? Computer engineers are welcome to call themselves programmers/developers
If you are in academia you definitely should.