...that computers hit a brick wall in the late-80s/early-90s, and for reasons no one could discover no advancement was possible.
Hardware is still made,and software still written, but there's no going forward.
Would you still enjoy computers if they were that limited?
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Doom released in 93.
So yes
Wasted quads. All that would have happened is that we'd have been in the stagnant state we're currently in now, minus the existence of Jow Forums for the autists to bitch about being in stagnation.
Jow Forums is no different from a BBS.
Absolutely, degenerate software like electron would be unthinkable.
Instead of the industry optimising to make software development faster and cheaper, they would have to spend effort on making it actually run well.
Of course, because there would be no framework for modern comparisons.
If new software and games were made, that would be fine. Society wouldn't have adapted to 'modern' software because it wouldn't have existed. It would just exist using the same paradigm and develop that. So in that sense, there would be progression. You can have a standard boring drum kit but give it to an inventive drummer and he'll do something new with it.
Minus the, you know, fact that you can't upload photos to a BBS and Jow Forums is a fucking imageboard.
>t. zoomer who has never used a BBS on a Commodore 64 back in 1983
i'd miss the multimedia capabilities of more modern hardware but i wouldn't have a problem with it
they did hit a brick wall
because 'windows' never advanced
Jow Forums can be a hierarchy of newsgroups.
"Jow Forums.tech.misc" is where this thread would be for example. Jow Forums.tech.thinkpad would be another. And there'd be FAQ files so there'd be far less repeating questions every single fucking day.
>t. zoomer who has never used RSS feeds or UseNet over dial-up back in 1993
YES WE'RE FREE OF THE NORMALFAGS WE DID IT
Imagine what it takes to be this cool and yet autistic.
Except it's possible, since file sharing over BBS is a thing.
It's called being mature, instead of autistically trying to compare modern shit you don't know about to old shit you've never used.
>RSS feeds
>1993
Ah, but are you mature enough to realise that people are comparing Jow Forums to those platforms on the basis of its nature as a discussion platform rather than as a specific type of discussion platform?
No one thinks you're clever for being this retarded, autistic, and literal.
Except I have, sure not early 80's but early 90's.
I highly doubt you did in 1983 though.
Ignore, it's literally a attention whore autistic kid (or worse, a grown man with the mind of a kid).
>Zoomers jealous of boomers
Seethe.
Yes, I am mature enough to see how you're comparing apples and oranges like the usual retard you are.
Sure is summer here.
I don't enjoy computers.
>because of the retained prevalence of plaintext we largely stick with matrix printers and not (((inkjet)))
>a computer can be bought and it wouldn't be bloated into obsolescence in a few years
Awesome.
I wish I had been around for bbs and Usenet. Seems comfy.
And this might sound like a retard millennial thing, but please humor me: I feel totally inundated by modern choices. There's so much to do that I find myself really earnestly exploring. There are a fuckload of games, all but a few holding my attention for a relative blip. I feel nostalgic for a time I wasn't here for. When Doom was the big game and it's all anyone played and everyone made wads. When half-life owned the internet and people began producing earnest content for it. When C was the lingua franca. When C++ was the obvious next step. When programs could truly be understood by a single person.
I feel hollow and shallow and I want to go there. Could this sort of thing still exist?
>I'll design the logo
The ones that weren't made with cooltext.com are awesome
It would be good, we'd all be using hardware decoders, multiple real processors and coprocessors, and efficiently written software. This also means no smartphones or other botnet devices. It would be better or worse, idkw.
>computer too slow to load my favourite 3D porn
>computers too slow to make 3D porn
Why even live then?
RSS didn't exist in 1993
>hurr just no advancement possible
technology does not work like that
assuming computers still got cheaper, you could just make a cluster to render your 3DPD on
>hypothetically speaking...
>NO THAT'S WRONG THOUGH
>1995
Big difference
I doubt that you could make a cluster with a budget of 500 to 600$
the first use of RSS was in 1999
and back then, a couple years was indeed a huge difference
not then, but you can now, so i suppose it would depend on the details of this supposed world
I fucking miss e-zine text files.
good thing your shit-on-purpose fantasy didn't happen
oh no, computers got easier to use so we must make them shitty now, because it devalues the only skill set I have which is opening up a terminal and pretending to look cool
The thing is, if computers still had gotten cheaper, meaning the CPUs had gotten cheaper, we still would have had the multicore revolution, only with 100x weaker cores. Today we'd be rocking 32-CPU BeBoxen or AlphaStations, or even boring old P5 IBM compatibles. It would be a strange world where concurrency and parallelism would matter even more than in ours. The '90s would have been a lot less cozy. You wouldn't have been able to rely to Moore's law to come and ``fix'' your shitty code.
You could absolutely make Poser porn on early '90s hardware.
Triggered soi-dev.
It wouldn't quite be the same due to size. making a load of 68Ks together wouldn't be just a case of stacking them, and the power draw would probably be unwanted for most consumers. Not to mention possible costs.
It's a fair criticism. The hypothetical scenario doesn't really make sense.
i was thinking that, again, up to the details
op says "no advancements possible", but the only way for that to stay true was if literally only the same machines were being made, and being sold for the same price, which just doesn't happen
with just the core technologies remaining the same, no new processes, no new components, there's still ways to scale what you have
multiplying cpus has it's limits as well, they're not easy to match, so they'll still be expensive, power draw and heat sink requirements will multiply as well, which will put a practical cap on how many you can shove in a consumer box
>computer can be bought and it wouldn't be bloated into obsolescence in a few years
This has been true for over a decade now. Core 2 Duos machines from 2007 running an OS from 2009 are still perfectly serviceable, especially if you max out the RAM.
Whats a computer?
I think most people in this scenario would stick to a single processor. If you have decades of consumers used to the idea of the keyboard-computer model of things like the Atari ST or Amiga then likely that would stay for ordinary consumers. Obviously that wouldn't be the case for enthusiasts, but they're different anyway.
Likely that would be a system similar to the Acorn stacks, where they were designed to be built up with layers performing various functions.
>When C was the lingua franca.
In the late '80s and early '90s AMOS and Turbo Pascal >>> C.
>I feel hollow and shallow and I want to go there. Could this sort of thing still exist?
Yes. You can develop on a deliberately limited platform for hobbyists to rekindle that spirit.
>AMOS
That thing was used by a couple of amigafags, it was nearly as used as C.
I got my first real computer in the early 90s
Degenerate
Where is this? I've been thinking about the DMG Gameboy scene. Where else do these hobbyists exist?
I like the old school lighting, but Jap MMD porn is better.
Yes?
No Moore's Law means no multicore chips at all, because we never improve transistor density/power.
We could go dual-layer with active cooling, and multisocket. And RAM prices would crash hard once the final fabs were paid off. That'd let us get up to 64 MB in enthusiast systems, and voodoo1-tier video cards become viable.
Mobos get bigger and have lots of card slots since they have more CPU/RAM sockets and are expected to have longer lifecycles. Optical drives and hard drive platter density still improve for a while, but flash drives never become viable. Solar panels are fucked over too.
>shitty code
A hardware development stall actually fucks over everyone but corporations. There'd be intense research on more efficient hardware architecture, and language designs with heavily optimizing compilers, but you'd need big expensive servers to run those compilers.
The ``fantasy console'' ``movement'' is all about this.
github.com
Any more than 4 colours is bloat
2bit.neocities.org
As long as its a RISC based computer (like the Acorn Archimedes) with a GNU+Linux operating system for ARM architecture.
Jesus Christ. Do any of these projects have more than fifteen minutes of work put into them? I like the concept but only Pico-8 is relatively viable
in my current mindset I would probably still enjoy that era
but as a person at the time maybe not, even my autistic interests in computational astronomy are mostly inspired by computer generated artwork that wouldn't have been possible on anything but the highest-end systems of that time
>you can't upload photos to a BBS
You're joking, right? What do you think people on BBSes did before internet access became widespread?
Aside from PICO-8, I think Pixel Vision 8 and TIC-80 are the most robust.
Celeste started as a PICO-8 game before getting ported out iirc
We are gonna hit that brick in the wall in 2022, That's as far as Moore's Law can go.
eh
fantasy consoles are just console homebrew for people who can't handle the real limits of an old console
youtube.com
I'll look at those. Thanks for saving me the detective work.
Those guys are totally based. I love this video
>Friday night
>call BBSs for 2-3 hours
>blast Suicidal Tendencies on the boom box
feels good man
>you can't upload photos to a BBS
Do you even ZModem?
Becayse Jow Forums requires 28 cores to browse.
It sliterally one of the simplest websites out there.
Let's revive low-power desktop RISC computing with RISC-V!
Yes. Tinkering with that kind of hardware can be a lot of fun.
You could easily make and render porn like that on even a 80's Amiga.
HD analog video here I come
actually that sounds awesome