I see many negative threads about people who are depressed about their programming/software developer jobs. This thread you are only allowed to say positive things about your programming job and programming in general
>didn't go to university, after a year already earning more than my friend in retail with degree and 10 years experience >work for small company and get to start any project i feel like with any technology i like >opportunity for learning is limitless >developing software is fun fun >trick people into thinking i'm smart when i say i'm a software engineer >open minded girls like hearing me explain how software and code works >9-5 desk job is comfy AF
based thread I see people who dread their jobs and are forced to work to survive, meanwhile I'm getting paid good money to do something that I already enjoy doing, CS is unironically the most based career
>be 30 >no degree >make six figures while peers with master's degrees in STEM make half of that >get to pick my projects >constantly get to learn new things >can work anywhere any time I like >doing what I love only increases my worth as an asset it's bretty gud
>positive: Get paid. Get to browse Jow Forums on phone when not slow. Barely have to write any actual code, mostly just enough to fix issues or adapt autogenerated sql to fit our uses. Rarely have to talk to anyone besides emails/instant messages and occasional skype call >negative: Still paid too low for the amount of work I should be doing. Not developing any new skills. The only goal I have is working up the courage to ask supervisor about starting a project to replace everyone's shitty excel reports with autogenerated reports written with R and LaTeX or something, but I can't think of anyway to propose that without sounding like autist supreme
Chase Lee
there is not a single woman in that picture
Kevin Gutierrez
Even better.
Jonathan Kelly
i got a job through an apprenticeship 2 years ago. the extent of my knowledge was html css and a tiny bit of javascript. then they hired me after 3 months. after a year my pay went up to a liveable salary. if you can afford to take shit pay for while (i still lived with parents) and have the option of an apprenticeship, i'd recommend it.
Jonathan Diaz
>>work for small company and get to start any project i feel like with any technology i like I call bs.
Jayden Lopez
Based.
Joshua Roberts
it's not terrible for your health. as long as you do plenty of other fitness activities, along with yoga. A 9-5 job is healthier in my opinion because it allows you to have a regular schedule for gym, social activities, reading, sleep etc.
The only negative impact i would say is it has messed up my eyes. But it's a price i'm willing to pay.
Ian Ortiz
>being constantly blueballed at work makes you more efficient Ever tried to program with porn playing on the second monitor? Imagine that but not being able to fap.
Evan Cruz
my boss knows nothing about programming, i work in the healthcare data industry and he's a doctor. he couldn't give less of a fug which technology i use, as long as i get the job done.
Cooper Martinez
right it would be hell
Charles Reed
>positive: Still sane and physically able to kill myself. >negative: No job. No money. No degree. No "real world" experience. Agonizing social anxiety and serious health condition.
Moving goal posts. Your op said that you can basically do ANY project. As in anything.
Josiah Turner
alright i exaggerated; sue me. yeah i couldn't just start randomly building a game since that has nothing to do with my company. but as long as the project is relevant to my work and would provide benefit, i can do it.
Nicholas Baker
I feel like my dumbass will end up falling in love with one of the girls just for doing her job.
Bentley Sanchez
I just got kicked out of uni at 22. At this point I'm thinking about working on a portfolio and trying to break into the industry without a degree.
I just can't stop thinking negatively about it. Like if I don't get a degree I'll be stuck at some enterprise job that will slowly drain my soul and rot my brain away. I'm applying to another university because this time I know what mistakes not to make. I'll probably look for a part-time (possibly full-time) job anyways but yea. I'm just fucking lost right now
Jace Taylor
Nothing wrong with that tho.
Jaxon Bell
Who the hell has time for this for a 9-5 plus commute?
Joshua Gutierrez
>comp sci "rock star" >shit just comes naturally to me, possibly autistic >reverse engineering and programming in C and C++ since high school >college was just a webdev-appdev brainlet kind of place >causes me to make tons of fucking personal projects >game engines with OpenGL, DirectX, SIMD code, multi-threaded shit, computer graphics, audio stuff(Utau), mmd/vegas/premiere/after effects/nuke plugins, etc >college started, start selling my plugins for cheap, cheaper than my competitors with no EULA or license service or whatever >fully pipelined and making quite a lot of money, maybe about $70-$100 in a day >studios would buy up plugins per-seat in bulk, so sometimes a studio would come by and buy $700 worth of shit for 20-40 seats, steady passive income alongside my usual work >made about $25,727.25 this year so far from it >graduate college, honors, not proud of it since it was all webdev appdev shit, I'm a Assembly,C,C++ guy at heart and put none of the projects they put me through on my resume >during my last semester, i was putting my resume out for the first time >very active github and loads of personal projects, open source >had three companies basically fight over me, one in indiana and another one in boston, another one was local and started me at $70,000 >picked that one since it was local and paid the most >started working literally the immediate day after class, put me on QA at first, then 2 weeks later put me with some of their engineers(small startup, about 14 people) >in 5 months managed to climb the ranks and now I'm right up below the CTO, making $95,000 in whats now about 10 months of working after school and even the CTO is scared of his job security >CEO offered me stock options, CTO is out for 2 weeks due to a vacation so now i'm doing his work, low-key making everyone realize that he isn't necessary while he's away >people are already talking about how I'm a better CTO >look up CTO salary
comfy, so much as changed in less than a year
Jeremiah Cox
Reading this makes me wonder where everything went so wrong for me. Eerily similar up until the job search. My resume must suck.
Austin Ortiz
meanwhile all the people i graduated with are still fighting over internships and "entry level" jobs
I feel spoiled, and it feels kinda unfair and i feel kinda bad for them but I'm putting myself first and maximizing my life experiences while I'm young
Connor Powell
The people I graduated with are working at Microsoft, Google, and Uber and literally can't tell you what an abstract class is, or what passing by value vs by reference is.
William Parker
Good for you man, keep going and don't sell yourself short if money is what you care about. You can probably ask for twice your salary if you are as good as you say you are.
They worked for a year at government contract heavy defense companies and wrote less than 1 line of code a day and then applied.
Leo Price
But does that allow you to just skip the technical interview? I thought it should make the technical interview even harder, as now you have real life experience and have more to live up to. And how did they get hired at the defense companies? Would assume it is rigorous selection as well.
You will never do anything meaningful because you're just a retard who got lucky to have it easy.
Ian Parker
stay mad
Cameron Morris
cope
Brody Gomez
I want to kill myself.
Kevin Foster
dilate
Elijah Wilson
Very basic interviews supposedly. I swear interviews never matter unless you put off red flags. Only your previous work experience does. One had an internship that turned into a job where they were asked how many bits were in a byte. The others I don't know.
Grayson Morgan
>COPE THREAD
Angel Reyes
Why didn't you go to west coast and make $$$?
Oliver White
i am on the west coast
Ethan James
Where? 95k seems low.
Nolan Gray
From a business perspective for someone that has only been hired for 10 months out of school, and only has 10 months of a professional life. $95,000 makes sense. If he got fired today he would still only have "1 year of experience" on paper.
Kayden Cox
In CA the "good" companies will hire you out of school for 150-200k and 2nd tier companies will for 100-150k.
Jack Cook
Went from making $50 an hour for a year to making $0 an hour because now I can't find a job with just a year of experience. RIP
Jaxon Jones
lol thats such horseshit, i can go check jobs right now and very few entry or junior positions pay even 80k in most of CA
Nathan Carter
I'm thinking LA and SV/SF. Not sacremento or whatever.
Jonathan Lewis
>didn't go to university, after a year already earning more than my friend in retail with degree and 10 years experience hoping and praying I can go down a similar path. currently working at starbucks and trying to make my way into web dev w/o a degree.
Julian Rivera
Well it costs 4x as much to live in those shitholes so it really doesnt fucking matter anyways.
Zachary Stewart
>positives: it's a good company with tons of perks and great compensation and all that good stuff i don't have to work very hard other people assume i'm a genius just due to the company's reputation and i'll never have a problem getting offers in the future >negatives: i'm white and american so i don't fit in with the other workers tons of bureaucracy, takes forever to get anything done no chance to make a real impact california really does suck
Samuel Nguyen
>california really does suck you must be some hick racist MAGA farmboy that moved into the city and cant adjust, where are you Bakersfield?
Aaron Reyes
san jose not a maga tard at all, i lived in the south side of chicago for a long time and preferred it there.
Justin Walker
Who hurt you?
Grayson Adams
What company and how's your rent?
James Jenkins
Different guy, I have been all over the world and Cali fucking blows. Great nature, terrible everything else. I rate it about on par with my time in Saudi.
Charles Myers
>Great nature, terrible everything else it's the midwest shifted up 10-20 degrees. i'd take middle america over this.
I would rather move back to chicago then work in LA, but there ins't as much tech work in chicago
Dominic Allen
Those redwoods though
Gabriel Williams
>it's the midwest shifted up 10-20 degrees Nah. >way better skiing >pacific ocean >desert, redwoods, coast, mountains all
Caleb Hughes
$2300 for a 2 bedroom. i might get a roommate because it's just a waste of space for me. the nature is the only redeeming quality, definitely better than the midwest which is just a flat wasteland, but i'm a shut-in so i don't care about that.
How do you guys slack? I've been coherced into unpaid overwork time so I'm just gonna reduce my productivity to save energy. Assume an openspace and a not so chill neighbor sitting next to me who can peek at my display but can't read easily the content.
Isaac Brown
God, I wish that were me
Hunter Reed
I'm a neet but just an idea, you can browse imageboards with images turned off. Or textboards.
Asher Richardson
find a comfier job
Lincoln Baker
I work for a Chinese company. Only perk is free coffee. The boss is like this Chinese guy from "an empire of dust". Always has quick "witted" responses and is sassy AF. Workoholic because he doesn't want to go home and see his ugly wife, but get snappy when I go home at the end of the workday (not even "early" just "not staying late") >user. You holeready gho home? It his so hearly. Whhy do you gho home?
Noah Carter
We use vs code at work. So I use the "remote development" extension to connect to my home server where I irc with fellas and work on personal projects. It just looks like any other busy VSCode screen. Legally I'm not using company resources or hardware to work on personal projects either so it's all my work. Besides I doubt they would want to claim ownership of what I was working on.
I got a friend that is making a Jow Forums theme that makes Jow Forums look like a github pull request page where each of the posts look like PR comments
Zachary Russell
>find a comfier job I'll do once I accumulate enough savings to ensure I can look for another better job without time pressure for financial reasons.
Might pull a retarded trick like "hurr durr you use the company's keyboard". But that's pushing it far imo. >I got a friend that is making a Jow Forums theme that makes Jow Forums look like a github pull request page where each of the posts look like PR comments Neat! Can you share a link? Where can I find more ? 10/10 would use.
William Davis
Seething
Xavier Peterson
Time is a resource user. tehy could definitely snag you if you are using time that you are paid by them to work on personal projects. Be careful
Jeremiah Wilson
My job is pretty comfy I guess.
>hired on after being an intern in my junior year >full stack developer for company's mobile app >flexible hours, can work from home whenever I want >team full of based bros who love to code but aren't completely autistic >free snacks, coffee, and soda >office is usually quiet with comfy couches
The only problem is that I hate Arizona so I plan to move to a better state and keep working here since the company doesn't mind remote developers.
Wyatt Carter
blogpost
>finish first year of cs degree at decent school >resume is pretty bad, no major projects, no work experience, etc >want to intern, get rejected by ~40 companies >go to small school hackathon (talk to techbro from large local startup, explain project, eventually win >get linkedin info of techbro, hit him up >now interning at respectable company and loving it
>hired into a sector devoid of programmers >nice office, good benefits, good work life balance
The only kicker is the social aspect of the job. I know a lot of people say it's unrealistic that coworkers will be your friend but like the demographic and age difference is whack. Everyone is old enough to be my parent and they talk about their kids which are older than me
Lincoln Wood
t. delusional young man engaging in delusional day dreaming who will learn the hard way when he enters the job market
Keep your expectations low and don't let the (((entertainment industry))) give you the idea that you're special, this is one of the methods that the (((Machine))) uses to destroy your spirit, while you're young they make you believe that you are going to live an easy life and when you come into contact with reality you will end up psychologically fucked up.
Life is mostly hardship you faggots, just accept it, don't let the (((Evil Ones))) convince you otherwise.
Lincoln Garcia
I've been working for 7 years and I posted this Just because you and your life both suck doesn't mean that's how it'll work out for everyone else.
Cooper Bailey
Quit school at 14. Learned C at 15. At 16 started learning about security. For the last decade I've mainly been working in my underwear to whatever hours I want finding vulnerabilities I whatever software someone is willing to pay for someone to find vulns in.
Currently on $100 / hr at 40 hours a week and only getting dressed to go outside because it's occasionally cheaper than delivery or I need to meet some slag off tinder.
Lincoln Foster
absolute heaven my lad
Leo Johnson
Imagine 10h/day (not counting the 1h lunch). And performance evaluation being judged on "commitment". Would you be positive?
James Richardson
Positive: >I get paid to program Negative: >All these fucking meetings are a drag
Blake Collins
who has time for gym, social activities, reading and sleep plus a full time job?
lots of people...
Joshua Young
SERIOUS QUESTION: >premise: I'm working as an accountant making a confy living, in my own country which i love cause is beautifull. BUT! I hate the stupidity of the people, the fact that they are going heads down toward fascism, gulping on propaganda without thinking and, most importantly, I hate my job. i hate it so much that i'm starting getting depressed and anxious, there's litterally no room left for improvement. i feel like my life is blurring away, and it doesn't matter how much vacation i get or bonusses, it jist make it clearer how dull is my existence.
Question: do you think it is too late if at 30 I take an year or two to develope the minimum skill required to get a job in IT? can i excape this dull existence? i don't care that much about money: -1 i want a job i can do everywhere in the developed world -2 i want room to constantly improve -3 i want a girlfriend with a penis.
same guy. pls respond ;__; ...I'm at work right now and I'm hating it.
Nathan Cox
yes you can get a job in IT as 30 but it won't fulfil your existence or whatever
Blake Sanchez
I did a 3 month javascript bootcamp and landed my first job making 140k/yr as a "Senior Software Consultant." The work was fully remote.
Still do contract work but now have people working under me and making just ridiculous amount of money. Taxes are a fucking nightmare but that's the cost of doing business.
Call it a larp if you wish but that's my story. I think 70-95k a year is absolutely way less than you should be making given your experience. If you're happy doing what you're doing then that's fine, but if not you're going to want to start renegotiating or finding a new position.
Nicholas Thomas
Would be fun if it was once or twice a week. But some chick blue balling me every day.
God no. Or you have some cuckold fetish.
Jose Ward
> get forced to work 12 hour days 6 days a week
Yea I'm sure missing out
Chase Powell
I only want to experience a job in which i can progressively keep learning. that's the basic requirement. Don't get me wrong, i hate accounting, taxation is boring as fuck, but the first 3 years were totally FINE, i was learning something. now i feel like a machine, doing something i know perfectly, just executing an algorythm. i feel totally alienated, and IT seems a field in which i cannot run out of things to learn.
Jacob Parker
Make a sample of what it does name it autist supreme and show it as a suggestion
Robert Murphy
I studied geography and got my BSc. Decided to work a year before going to get my masters. Since I'm a yuropoor i don't need to pay for my education and im working in a company that analyzes mobile network data so i learned alot in a year and now i know what i still want to learn. Gonna do my masters in geoinformatics. Also we have like a 36 hour week and we can work freely from home if we want but our office is comfy and really close to my home. IT is great guise. I live in Estonia btw.
Hunter Morris
estonia must be a nice place to live
Cameron Ward
+1, also adding > working from home 24/7 > can travel without "losing" money > can work in pants as I'm doing now
Julian Reyes
not even once, if you're not ironic than you've never worked a day in your life
Eli Turner
>trick people into thinking i'm smart when i say i'm a software engineer
But you aren't an engineer you are a programmer. Stop upgrade your job title.
Eli Hernandez
>Stop upgrade your job title. Alright pajeet. It's a victim-less crime.
Thomas Hernandez
I'm posting on Jow Forums in my house at office hours and noone will notice as long as I keep spamming emails