Discuss.
Discuss
Nicholas Hall
Jaxon Brooks
Unironically still one of the best distros around, and absolutely the best non-systemd distro. People who complain about package management need to check out USM and slapt-get. People who complain about lack of packages need to realize there are tons of additional repositories you can add. Slackware was the first linux distro many people tried out, and it is a bullwark against the rising tide of systemd.
James Bailey
>no package manager
in the trash it goes
Samuel Cruz
>Systemd is bad
It's all so tiresome.
Kevin Sanchez
Distro with a considerable pedigree and still holding its own against the systemd crowd.
Jow Forums doesn't seem that interested probably because it's got more old school principles, unlike Debian which sold itself down the fucking river. Mind you, Debian seems to be slightly losing popularity of late here.
Isaiah Ward
pkgtools is a package manager, you fucking idiot. It's a low level package manager, or is that too hard for you?
i.e. "I don't understand why systemd is bad".
Nathan Phillips
ie "I don't understand what systemd accomplishes"
Grayson Gutierrez
>help i don't know how to install a different package manager!!!
slackware is unironically the best and most stable distro i've used, same install for 18 months now, nothing ever breaks.
lack of systemd and proper configuration makes it boot in 3 seconds on my shitty 2011 macbook
Anthony Parker
Running current here, buttery smooth sir
Xavier Martin
USM and slapt-get are great, and they resolve dependencies. There are more as well.
It's objectively shit, and it's not a good replacement for a lot of the services it's gobbling up. If it worked properly it wouldn't be such a big deal, but it doesn't, and it often breaks crucial stuff.
Anthony Watson
Plus: boots shit quicker
Minus: massive attack surface, badly coded, unstable, untrustworthy, even Poettering admits it's the "core OS".
Jason Martin
i kinda wanna try slack after i saw it in mister robot, but also because it's the only thing more stable then debian, which is my current basis
Are there distros of slack like there are of debian?
Joshua Wilson
Fast and rock solid stability.
Benjamin Carter
>Are there distros of slack like there are of debian?
What do you mean?
Andrew Fisher
It accomplishes being an inefficient init system while attempting to replace myriad basic functions throughout the OS with its own poorly implemented ones. It accomplishes preventing millions of users from properly hibernating their machines, from using dnssec, from resolving host names quickly (and sometimes at all), from utilizing upnp should they so choose, and many other things. It is not stable. It is not resource-efficient, and it is a gigantic bug-ridden mess.
Evan Wilson
This is true. Most stable OS I've ever used.
Jacob Richardson
There's Salix and Slackel. Both are actually quite good (but the latter only seems to be focused on the openbox ISOs). Salix is certainly worth trying out if you're afraid of mainlining slackware.
Slackware is also the basis of the two best portable distros, Porteus and Slax.
Cooper Phillips
slax is debian based these days
James Wood
Motherfuck! That sucks. I switched to Porteus from Slax years ago for my portable distro needs. Didn't realize.
Ayden White
Oh I understand.
Salix is a great way to start. Quite easy to install and manages depends for you.
Or you could jump straight into Slack on a VM and go from there.
Jaxon Powell
Yeah the dev is an idiot. Said "Slax will always be based off Slackware, whatever happens". Then switched to Debian because it was easier.
Mason Morris
slackware sucked in 1994
it still sucks now
Sebastian Rogers
I jumped straight from win7 to vanilla slackware and didnt even look back.
Literally my first real linux and package management is piss easy with sbopkg.
I also screwed my multilib install and easily unfucked it by restoring the packages via the install cd/usb, it doesnt get any simpler than that.
Jacob Phillips
Good work, user. I couldn't go straight from W7 to Slack. I went to Ubuntu first.
Kevin Myers
I'll take a look at Oirteus and salix, maybe slackel
Is there any security distros?
Daniel Gutierrez
slackware on its own is pretty secure
Anthony Collins
Like pentesting distros? No. But those are mostly memes anyway, as you can just use those tools on any distro. Salix (if you don't mind Xfce OOTB) is probably the best way to get comfy with using slackware as a daily driver. Porteus is best if you're only going to shove it on a USB (it also includes handy package management tools like Salix and Slackel). Once you get slackware / a slackware-based setup the way you like, you'll understand why it's still around after all these years. It is maximum fucking comfy and stable, and it offers the user unparalleled control over their machine without having to resort to compiling everything from source.
Kayden Edwards
Yes don't be scared. Go for Salix and/or jump straight into Slackware. Porteus is only for USBs.
The phrase "once you Slack you never go back" doesn't exist for nothing. It's the most stable distro with the most intelligent community.
Austin Fisher
(((systemd))) shills BTFO
Salix is based on Debian right now. Slackel only option left
Oliver White
>comes with literally everything and the kitchen sink
Hudson Murphy
>Salix is based on Debian right now.
No. Slax is. Salix is based on Slackware.
Jeremiah Bennett
Is this a good distro to install on an old laptop that I intend to use for simple tasks?
Colton Evans
Yeah, the base with fluxbox/blackbox/windowmaker is like 88mb ram total.
Caleb Rodriguez
Yes. Depends how old though, as you have to compile stuff if you want third party packages.
Mind you, I run it on an Atom and it's fine. Just be sure to use Alien BOB's binaries for things like Libre Office, qt5 etc.
Luke White
do i need to follow this if i want to burn the iso to usb ?
people.salixos.org
why not simply using dd?
Connor Ramirez
What are your thoughts on Gentoo?
Also doesn't Slackware not receive updates anymore and is approaching EOL?
Christopher Edwards
Slackware has the Current distribution that tests packages that will go in the next release whenever its ready.
Its like rolling release but you dont have to tell your mom to cancel all of your evening meeting whenever you update.
Zachary Harris
>What are your thoughts on Gentoo?
perfectly fine if you like compiling most stuff from source.
>doesn't Slackware not receive updates anymore and is approaching EOL?
whoever told you this was lying through his teeth. slackware is frequently updated, actively maintained and improved, by the main dev and a thriving community.
James Clark
stable 14.2 still receives updates
-current receives updates every day.
Watch this
Kevin Campbell
No, get VOID.
Brody Walker
What's the difference between slack and void?
Jeremiah Ramirez
Slack is made by a chad and is one of the oldest linux distros available and VOID is made by a tranny so you have about a 40% chance the distro dies sometime in the future.
Blake Morales
Didn't he abandon Void and went AWOL for two months or something?
Hunter Martinez
university project toy
cringe
Jason Miller
Did he?
Jordan Jackson
Henry Mitchell
Oh fug, I was only half joking when I said that.
Jeremiah Jones
Maybe I just don't understand, but Slackware seems much too cobbled together for me. They recommend a full install (every package on the install disk) instead of dependency resolution. I'm not a "muh minimalism?" autist but this still seems wrong to me.
Hunter Baker
Running void on a T420. Everything works out of the box. Couldn't be happier.
Ethan Brown
I want to install salix but the last iso is from 2017
what should I do?
Justin Flores
Grab the one that says current
Michael Davis
is there salix current?
Ryder Harris
>stable release has KDE4
>current is unstable
>no native package management
>cringe Subgenius iconography
Jose Fisher
It has a package manager. And the pkg manager is pretty good. It doesnt get in your way and it works. What more can you want(besides dependency handling)
Blake Lewis
I like how void uses musl, runit and libressl. I, however, do not run it on any of my systems. This is because I can get musl, runit and libressl to work on gentoo and I run OpenBSD on my laptop
Alexander Price
Using Slackware as my daily driver, and have been since 2014.
>>no package manager
>the first distro to ever have a package manager doesn't have a package manager
Do you really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
>university project toy
You say that, but it's the most stable daily driver I've ever used short of NetBSD or Windows 2000.
>>stable release has KDE4
KDE4's final version is stable as fuck after all the bugs got ironed out. If you wanna use KDE5 you can feel free to install AlienBob's packages for it.
>>current is unstable
I've been using current for a few months now on one of my PC's and I haven't had a single issue with it.
>>no native package management
What are pkgtools? If you can't deal with it, you always have the freedom to duct tape pkgsrc to it.
>>cringe Subgenius iconography
shit taste
Carter Martinez
based
Oliver Nguyen
slackware
lives
Adrian Ward
They recommend a full install. You don't have to do the full install, you can choose your package sets if you know what you're doing.
If you don't know what you're doing, what is 10GB these days for / with hard disk sizes being what they are? OK that's 5GB more than a default Ubuntu install of whatever, but the stability and control you get is unparalleled [by the way a default Mint install with all the 3rd party shit comes to between 10-15GB].
Mason Barnes
In a short space of time superior to SLS. Oh wait, you haven't heard of that.
And this was before Debian. Could you write such a 'toy' and surpass the 1st gen OS it was based on?
Owen Ross
Install Slackware 14.2. Just go for it. Look on Youtube for install help videos.
I'd recommend doing it in a VM first. You might break it the first time.