/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Motherboard stability survey edition, VOTE if you have a Ryzen 3000 system:
strawpoll.me/18384387

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and monitor suggestions:
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>How to assemble a PC
youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g

Want help?
>State budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS)
>R3 3200G - Minimum 30-60fps gaming. The stronger 3400G sells for $150. (R3K APUs OCs better than R2K)
>R5 2600 - 60fps+ gaming CPU with great value
>R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU
>R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU
>R7 1700X - Budget video editing
>R9 3900X - Professional tasks

RAM
>Do not use a single DIMM. 2 sticks for a typical dual channel CPU
>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 or Micron E-die ("AES" in code) recommended
>AMD B & X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
>B-die is EOL, stock is limited

GPUs based on current pricing
1080p
>RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale/used for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost
>(GTX 1660TI @ ~$230/Vega56 @ ~$270) - higher fps / more demanding games
>RX 5700 - higher FPS
1440p
>RX 5700 - standard, 75-100FPS+
>RX 5700XT - higher fps
2160p (4K)
>RTX 2070S OC - budget option. Turing scales better into 4K than Navi does.
>2080Ti - best for 4K but expensive

>Navi AIB models come mid-August. 5700 non-XT blower is alright, due to low power.

General
>Yes, adaptive sync (free/g/sync) is important for gaming
>NVMe isn't better than SATA SSD for gaming
>Don't use Speccy
>Don't trust sites which rank CPUs by arbitrary, obfuscated scores
>AM4 VRMs + Monitors + SSD Guide under "more"

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give me some thoughts, am I just wasting money?
Am I making poor choices?
I havent built a computer in about 10 years and fell behind on my knowledge of technology.

I'm out of the loop. What's wrong with Speccy? I haven't used or thought about it in forever, just wondering.

>9900k housefire
>ANUS motherboard
>RTX meme
>thermaltake meme PSU
>fucking OPTICAL DRIVE
>paying for windows
this is the biggest waste of money there is no way you can possibly have your head so far up your ass
2/10 made me reply

Botnet, not just the meme kind

still waiting for my 3400G
should I update my 2400 ram?
what would be a nice update? I will use exclusively linux and use kvm for vidya. The dedicated would be a 750 ti.

No point trying to polish a turd m8, use what you have.

>cash out 500$ for cpu
>chooses thermaltake PSU
go sea sonic focus gold or even prime ultra

Get a RM750X or Seasonic Focus Plus instead of the Thermaltake.

If you're just playing games, 9900k is fine, maybe overkill since it's only a few percent better than 9700k in games. If you do a significant amount of productivity stuff, get the 3900X.

Asus's ROG series Z390 mobos are not good value, get something like the aorus elite, better cheaper and better VRM.

Ram is kind of meme-y, are you going to do things that will benefit from it?

:-/

god I hate living in a third world country

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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>buying an APU when you already have a GPU
Literally why, you could have paid $50 more and gotten a way better CPU.

>gaming on an APU
do people really do this?
a cheap 570 would do you wonders without breaking the bank

(higher is better)

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I will use kvm user. I don't want to run windows on bare metal.

x370 3700x master race

>assembling first PC
>cpu fan spins, GPU light is on, led is on, but no signal
>remove gpu and Insert it again
>now gpu light isnt turning on
h-hold me Jow Forums

yes, specially in thirld world countries. Here, GPUs are doble the price from, say, amazon.
And there is no such thing as black friday or cyber monday. The prices are always the same.

most of the build is so in 3-4 years when everything is considered slow I can overclock, ram will help with slow loading of bluebeam (lot like cad) as I edit, I get it to crash the laptop sometimes, which is i7 something and 4gb ram.

also I just kind of have money to waste.

People who hate the 3700x are sour grapes fags who can't afford the cpu.
3700 is the most versatile and bang for buck.

>gpu light
what

x570 aorus itx and 3700x here
it's pretty comfy. the 3700x definitely runs hotter than my fx-8320 but i guess that's to be expected

Any idea as to when AMD will release the 5800/900 series? Should I just bite the bullet and get a 2080s for 144hz 1440p gaming?

Are you using the stock cooler and what case are you using?

what about gaming on an older system?
like 2500k + gt 960

little white light near PCI e
it actually blinks once when I turn on PC and it imidietly turns off

i'm more of a min max nigga
either i go entry level 3600 or i go in for a penny in for a pound and get meself a 3900x

For the same price, which ones of these should I get:

>ZOTAC RTX 2070 SUPER Twin Fan
>Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Super Gaming
>Asus GeForce RTX 2070 Super Dual EVO OC

i'm using a kraken x52 in a corsair 280x. cpu never got above 83C during prime 95

How much can my r5 1600 be overclocked

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its really hard to find old hardware that is not used.
For example, I wasn't able to find a 1600 where I live, they said, "its discontinued bruh, do you even cpu?, here, have this 2600 which is 1.5 the price from amazon"

>when you max for shit I won't be doing.
Unlike the chiplets I can game at max/Stream and make my videos. I'm not in a rush for a small performance boost when I'll be top nigga by the time the next ryzen comes out.

>bluebeam (lot like cad)

Hmm, sounds like productivity stuff to me. Does it like a lot of cores/threads? If yes, ditch the 9900k and get the 12 core 3900X (or since you want to splurge, the 16 core 3950X, comes out in a month.)

And I doubt we will get any ryzen 3000 for some time.
have you tried another pcie slot?

what about playing on a used console then?

it will actually run on some very low specs, but I like to have like 20 drawings out at a time and most computers slow down when editing all that.

I suppose I will probably be involved in bim drawings soon as well, which is like 3d modeling in buildings.

but really I am just gonna game mostly and have some money saved up.. I was able to keep the last one I built for 6-7 years until I OC'ed it to death.

I won't use my rig for just vidya user.

Pic related.
THIS IS LITERALLY THE PERFECT CASE FOR ME GOD DAMMIT.
Life is suffering here.

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yeah but you can get a turbo cheap pc for web browsing

Realistically, how much will ddr5 change things?

then again
>thirld world
here not a lot of people can afford both. Still a valid option.

Itll be more expensive

the first few years not much, but when it'll improve, yeah it'll be worth switching over ddr4
but again by that time the only mobos on sale will be ddr5

How much better is a 2080 non ti than a 5700xt for 1440p? Its double the price

>have you tried another pcie slot?
yep, same problem, blinks once and thats it

Looks good except for the Thermaltake PSU

Am I doomed to a ugly air cooler or would I be better off with a aio water cooler?

Damn you mad kek

>aio
cringe
either go air or custom loop

aio is ok, if i had to do it over again, i'd order a custom loop kit and do that.

RX 5600 when? I want a 1660 ti cheaper :^)

they say that zen 2 supports 3200Mhz natively while zen+ does 2933Mhz
does that mean my 3200Mhz ram can only work at full capacity on a zen2?

Weird, if not absurd """""new""""" market pricing, and "bought for 300$ in 2012, selling for 299$ now" used market. Personally idc about graphics and shiet, as long as it isn't 20 fps.

no, ryzen 2000 series shouldnt have problems with 3200 mhz ram kits

just get a 1070 at this point

why is there a difference in claimed ram clock support if zen+ could already do 3200Mhz?
why not market it as 3200MHz ready instead of 2933Mhz?

Where the fuck is the 3900x already.

Recommendations for someone who loves sports/huge sportsfan?

...

Reminder that this is what it looks like when your game isn't GPU bound

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New 1070s cost more than 2060 and are extremely hard to find used under warranty here in Winland.

>buying an inferior product so intel can hire more trannies and pajeets
dilate

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I mean for a new desktop

Stop consuming prolefeed.

What team/where do you live

>cherrypicks the best case scenarios from an AMD shill Youtube channel
>Intel still wins

w e w

Reminder that you should not keep posting old benchmarks made on the time the side you like had the advantage.

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how is being a fan of sport going to affect the choice of desktop?
it's like asking for the perfect table set as a race car enthusiast

Learn English, Pajeet

>this makes the street shitter seethe

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Ran out of arguments?

>no mention of 3000 series ryzen
oy vey! the goyim know!
shut it down!

When the FUCK is the NH-U14A coming out?

pcpartpicker.com/user/SwaggyC/saved/

pls give actual suggestions

What do you mean, man? Consumer tech is the opium of the people?

I just thought there might be some features for sports

>pls give actual suggestions

Buy AMD

Yeah play video games instead!

Nothing really to complain about, except the 1080p monitor. For a 2080 card, anything less than 1440p is like using a fire-hose to water your garden.

Only 0.1% of people care about streaming and out of that low percentage of people no one uses the slow preset, I'm not an intel shill by the way, this is just a fact.

My sapphire 580 is running at 1410mhz core and 2ghz memory ootb, is there more to be had or is it over to the max already? What do I do with powerslider? Increase it so it stays boosted all the time?

What graphics card would pair well with this processor?

newegg.com/amd-fx-8000-series-fx-8320/p/N82E16819113285?Item=N82E16819113285

Looking for something in the $75-150 range

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can't you get msi? even the armor model would be better than that asus or niggabyte model, not sure about the zotac

Stop vidya too t. Varg Vikernes

GTX 970

used GTX 970

>AMuDslime

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I've heard reports of the ventus being hella loud, and while the gaming x trio is nice, I can get a 2080 for that price, and I prefer cards under 30cm.

how do I shop for used graphics cards?

Ebay
Craigslist

Slow bitrate is pretty standard for people who are not huge streamers. If you arent a large partner, you dont get priority server and cant upload a fast bitrate anyways.

Regardless, you are going to pick AMD over Intel for a streaming rig regardless, because of the multi threaded performance.

In heavily threaded workloads how much faster would a 3900x be than a 3700x if they were both power limited to 100 watts?

[spoiler]reddit hardware swap[/spoiler]

Hey Jow Forums, I just spent $155 on the following:
>LG 29WK50S-P 29" UltraWide Full HD IPS Monitor
It's FHD with 75hz. Was that a decent deal? It'll match my other Acer monitor that I got used in like new condition that's 27" FHD and also 75hz for $70. I'm not super screen proficient, so tell me if I'm wasting my money here.

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forgot to ask how much should a used 970 cost?

>only one thousand and eighty pixels of vertical resolution

Yes...

Under 100$