Assemble a part list

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and monitor suggestions; click on titles above parts lists to see notes
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>How to assemble a PC
youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g

Want help?
>State budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS)
>R3 3200G - Minimum 30-60fps gaming. The stronger 3400G sells for $150. (R3K APUs OCs better than R2K)
>R5 2600 - 60fps+ gaming CPU with great value
>R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU
>R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU
>R7 1700X - Budget video editing
>R9 3900X - Professional tasks

RAM
>Do not use a single DIMM. 2 sticks for a typical dual channel CPU
>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 or Micron E-die ("AES" in code) recommended
>AMD B & X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
>B-die is EOL, stock is limited

GPUs based on current pricing
1080p
>RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale/used for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost
>(GTX 1660TI @ ~$230/Vega56 @ ~$270) - higher fps / more demanding games
>RX 5700 - higher FPS
1440p
>RX 5700 - standard, 75-100FPS+
>RX 5700XT - higher fps
2160p (4K)
>RTX 2070S OC - budget option. Turing scales better into 4K than Navi does.
>2080Ti - best for 4K but expensive

>Navi AIB models come mid-August. 5700 non-XT blower is alright, due to low power.

General
>Yes, adaptive sync (free/g/sync) is important for gaming
>NVMe isn't better than SATA SSD for gaming
>Don't use Speccy
>Don't trust sites which rank CPUs by arbitrary, obfuscated scores (eg userbenchmark, passmark, cpuboss)
>AM4 VRMs + Monitors + SSD Guide under "more"

more: rentry.co/pcbg-more

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Other urls found in this thread:

pcpartpicker.com/list/WB8WV6
pcpartpicker.com/list/NgzzzY
pcpartpicker.com/list/DXkCfH
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microcenter.com/product/476089/PRIME_X370-PRO_AM4_ATX_AMD_Motherboard
asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-X370-PRO/HelpDesk_CPU/
pcpartpicker.com/guide/gfZxFT/modest-amd-gaming-build
thermalright.com/product/silver-arrow-ib-e-extreme/
techpowerup.com/257755/japanese-diy-market-goes-big-on-ryzen-68-6-market-share-for-amd
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

5700x aibs when?

mid-august

OP change suggestions:
>add a case section
People frequently ask about good cases below $100 or good silent cases and such, i think preparing a section for that would be helpful.
>add 9700K as alternative Overkill gaming CPU
Should be obvious why, it generally still gets superior fps in most games as opposed to the 3700X while costing the same amount, especially for people who are mainly into older games or emulation it is definitely superior.
>add binned 9900K as the "I want the best possible gaming CPU" option.
Some people do not care about budget and are willing to shell out 1k easily if it gets them the best results, telling them that the 3700X or 3900X are the best they can get is dishonest. Any 9900K generally outperforms them in games, but a top binned one demolishes them.

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>save up money for months
>finally enough to buy that sick pc i wanted
>go look at parts
>they're all either out of stock or prices are hiked up
>no viable alternatives

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FIX BIOS ISSUES OR RELEASE B550
AAAAAAAAAA

pcpartpicker.com/list/WB8WV6

Very based build, good choices all around.

think about the total cost of system, now think on why u are getting a 9700k over a 9900k
"its the same in gayms"
no its not it has half the threads and gonna get less framtime consistency. only brainlets buy the 9700k over the 9900k for the small savings
inb4 shill
if you gonna go full jew might aswell go the full way tbqh

3600 works fine on my X370 bro! :^)

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what parts were they

Not him but it really depends on where you live, many places the 9700K is $100+ cheaper.

I know still its pointless to buy it factoring in total system costs to be a threadlet

pcpartpicker.com/list/NgzzzY
Can someone check this build out for me, I want to make sure I'm not being a brainlet.

is this some kind of joke to you

I mean, considering that 9700K still beats the similarly priced AMD options in most games and decimates them in old/emulated games, i wouldn't say it's "pointless".
Just depends on what you want from your system, if it's purely a gaming + browsing rig then it's a fine option.

u can get a board like b450 carbon with built in wifi if that matters
>60hz
why dud

I want to wait for PCIe 5 and DDR5 ram and the Intel GPUs all of them coming next year so I want to build a PC that can be converted into a mining rig with a bunch of GTX 1060. Is this a stupid idea?

It would be something like this

pcpartpicker.com/list/DXkCfH

I just play DS, TES V, LoL and Hotline Miami anyway.

Should I do this or just go for the R3 + RX 5700 in a X570 mobo

brah qlc

Why do you say that?
I've heard better things about this board than any of the budget options with WiFi, so that was my thinking. I care more about image quality than refresh rate, I'm not super into gaming (I do a decent amount of photo/video editing though.)

id be scared to be a threadlet thats all id rather add +10% of total system cost to avoid that. but if u know for certain your specific use cases it wont matter at all and u trying to save money i guess...

next week

>mining rig with a bunch of GTX 1060. Is this a stupid idea?
if you are going for profits probably most likely yes

I agree actually, i do think if someone goes Intel they should get a 9900K.
But if user is on a budget and can't really afford the extra cost, the build he posted will still do the job fine for the most part.

>Find a case
>Looks recently released
>released in Canada mid May 2019 in Amazon but in the US nearly a month later
>Odd...
>check online for reviews
>No reviews at all, check videos as well
>None either.
>Check official sites and NOTHING at all. No news, no product page.
>Legit seems like it was purged from all media or their media team completely was on vacation for moths on end/all sacked

and it's fucking Corsair case and afaik in English only 1 review on Newegg.

It's this
newegg.com/black-corsair-icue-220t-rgb-airflow-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811139142?Description=Corsair iCUE 220T &cm_re=Corsair_iCUE_220T-_-11-139-142-_-Product

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non hyperthread is trash
no matter how many levels of mental gymnastic you're on
i'd rather lose 10% fps and still be able to multitask

But muh gaems
$400 cpu + cooler is more than enough for vidya come on with i9-9900k you also need aio its another $120 minimum

>with i9-9900k you also need aio
Bullshit, any mid tier air cooler is perfectly fine for it unless you're doing extreme overclocking.
Even for some fairly intense OCing you're good with a higher tier air cooler.

I can't even find the manual online so that's another issue

Can you play heavy cpu games @5GHz?

With a Noctua D15 or Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4, sure.

Which GPU should I use then

What temps voltages?

Who else utterly smug with their /X370/ board and a Zen2?

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>People frequently ask about good cases below $100 or good silent cases and such, i think preparing a section for that would be helpful.
Too long. And would change too much due to sales. Cases are subjective anyway.
>Should be obvious why
Did you stutter?
>Some people do not care about budget and are willing to shell out 1k easily if it gets them the best results
The problem is that they don't understand that it won't give them more FPS with their 2070 at 1080p, or 2080Ti at 1440p, because they are GPU bottlenecked to begin with.
If they DID understand that, they'd be able to figure out for themselves that they actually do need a 9900k in a situation where they'd need it.
And that's without bringing up the constant discovery of new security vulns.
That tiny 0.1% niche is not worth a space in the OP. There's already megaretards that put together $2500 2070Super+9900k builds without the recommendation in the OP.

Getting worse frametimes isn't winning, brainlet.
>Decimates in emulation
That's a blatant lie, psyops shithead.

>mommy pays my electricity

I personally hate that style of case, but if you like it then go for it.

You could get the same performance for almost $200 cheaper with a 3700X and 5700XT. At the very least, you should be changing the CPU.
Much better than your last build, at least.

HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

a specialised mining GPU like a sane person

>X370
How much did you pay in 2016?

would you still reccomend 9900k over 9700k if it’s US$101.79 more?
cause that’s the pricing gap where i am

>muh emulation totally isn't a single-threaded work load that always benefits intel
are you retarded

>Much better than your last build, at least.
Real build

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don't listen to these morons the idea that a 9900k and a 9700k don't cost the same is apparently lost on their stupid asses

Want a 5700 $380 decent cooler

Got this for free from Microcenter this month when it was priced at $50. Bundle with Zen2 made it free.
microcenter.com/product/476089/PRIME_X370-PRO_AM4_ATX_AMD_Motherboard

>same performance
>same
look motherfucker just because AMD has managed to make value parts for once doesn't mean that ryzen is beating intel for gaming beyind the budget side of things

I'm using my Asus X470 and I've had zero issues. I genuinely feel sorry for people having problems with X570. I don't know if its processor specific but I do have a 3900x.

are you for real?
do you get gimped functionalities from your bios?
also can your mobo use a 16c/32t when they come out?

There is no "microcenter" in EU it's like they don't want $

>That's a blatant lie
Have you ever actually emulated shit or played old PC games?
They're either singlethreaded or utilize very few cores, getting a CPU with superior singlecore speed is definitely better for emulation, and that is where Intel still absolutely wins.

>different performance when GPU bottlenecked
Are you trolling or just retarded?
When you're GPU bottlenecked with a 2070S, the difference between a 3700X or 9700k (or 3600, for that matter) is less than 1%.

There's about a 35% difference between a 2070S and 2080Ti. There is not a 35% difference between the 3600 and 9700k, fucktard.

>wasting money on M.2 drives
>mATX in general
>wasting money on fans cause you bought mATX

>tfw no Microcenter
I have Fry's but I fucking hate that place.

9900k is the only intel CPU i'd be willing to buy
anything under that and you may as well switch to amd
unacceptable to have to pay for a gimped non hyperthreaded CPU in 2019
intel should be paying me to use their pre 2003 technology

>RPCS3 doesn't matter
That's two who definitely aren't a samefag. Add it to the list if this is what intcels really believe.

>are you for real?
Yep all I had to do was borrow my friend's CPU to flash.
>do you get gimped functionalities from your bios?
No in fact I put turbo on top of my turbo. X370 is basically just X470 without StoreMI. See my post here >also can your mobo use a 16c/32t when they come out?
Sure it can, Asus validated it

5700 xt good enough for 1440p 144hz gaming at med/high settings?
I'm uninterested in ultra gaytracing so the faggot recommending 2080ti jew rape card fuck off.

>Ryzen 9 3900X
asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-X370-PRO/HelpDesk_CPU/

Eh maybe, but you probably won't actually hit 144fps consistently in new shit.

>tanking performance for 3700x when 8700k exists

TY

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what x370 board are you using where the VRM isn't going to shit itself when it comes across 16c/32t cpus

>>wasting money on M.2 drives
That's the cheapest ssd in the store dude us prices are better for ssd
>>mATX in general
Why not mobo costs less than ATX
>>wasting money on fans cause you bought mATX
Wat you need 2 more fans at least with meshify

asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-X370-PRO/HelpDesk_CPU/
I don't remember how many phases it has, it's either 8 or 6+4. Definitely doable if you point fans at the board's heatsinks.

Can someone please post that mouse tier guide image?

>pcpartpicker.com/list/WB8WV6
Not sure why you want that cooler so much, a 212evo will do the job just fine. AssRock z390 Pro4 motherboard is also far cheaper for you

redpill me on the ddr3 vs ddr4 performance difference

How is this? It's a staff-made build, right?
I'm thinking of buying all the parts this weekend. I don't know shit about PCs. I need your opinions

pcpartpicker.com/guide/gfZxFT/modest-amd-gaming-build

It's around $400 for cpu + cooler
I know it's silent and grat pricer/performance
Tall, ita has 6 x 8mm heatpipes

>How is this?
>It's a staff-made build, right?
listen to yourself for a second and then look at the parts they're suggesting to you. avoid pcpp builds like the fucking plague.

>Intel
8C/16T i7s are coming out in Q4. Screencap this

1ddr m8

>8C/16T i7s are coming out in Q4.
nicely done
so now you can pretend you meant Q4 of next year everytime intel delays it one year further

How is Silver Arrow performance?
thermalright.com/product/silver-arrow-ib-e-extreme/

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10nm is coming out in Q4 bro

>no heat plate
I'm curious how this'll perform...
I like the big heat pipes and the fans look right but there are questionable things about the cooling solution's design.

just check rocketjumpninja's page.

Intel should be sued if they keep selling chips with their broken hyperthreading. They need to start over with a new arch before they can sell that again.

3700X with the stock cooler is plenty quiet. They put a 140W TDP cooler on a 65W TDP chip.

Thermalright makes good heatsinks, but their fans tend to be mediocre IIRC.
But anyway, probably overkill. 4-6 heatpipes is all you need unless you're going with a housefire 8700k/9900k, or overclocking a 3900X/3950X.

you know they've been saying that for a couple of years right?
i'll believe the 10nm when it actually comes out, not when it's promised to come out

Backplates often don't help thermals, on nitro+ yes but that's kinda the exception

this time around i'm pretty sure intel straight up said we're not getting a brand new architecture till like 2021 for the consumer market. most of the development is in servers and low power right now

Thank

He's de facto not wrong. Intel 10nm CPUs are already shipping, just not for desktop PCs but they are working on a 6 core 12 thread CPU right now.

I wrote heat plate, not back plate.

Can't wait till Intel gets an IPC increase and amd goes from relevant to gutter tier

>I personally hate that style of case, but if you like it then go for it.

It;s really air flow oriented. I like the RGB but you can even just sell off the nice fans for 30 dollars total if you already own your own ones

by that time we'll already be on quantum computers

The problem with HT is that you can only enjoy it for a bit before another vuln will surface that gen9 has no hardware mitigation for and force you to disable it, effectively downgrading you to a 9700 anyway.
HT is fundamentally flawed in the way it does privilege separation (or doesn't, as the case may be) and will never be secure. Intel needs to scrap it and start over by doing SMT the safe way like IBM.

I'm currently running GTX 650 but it's way too outdated for 1080 games.
I want something cheap but somewhat decent. I've been looking for 1050 but i've heard that AMD cards in same price category is better.
I never had AMD cards so i don't know what their names mean.
What's the name of the AMD's equivalent of gtx 1050?

So I've been thinking about going back to air cooling because my H110i is getting old and I'm getting scared of it bursting and fucking my shit up. My mobo can't handle heavy HSF so is there anything you guys could recommend me?

nigga wtf is your budget

penis lover's salad

lmao what are you fucking gay let me tell you how to fix your dumb shit
>take the cooler off
>go in a bathtub or something
>on the hotplate there should be screws to dismantle the cooler
>take all the screws off
>now you can literally just drain all the coolant out
>put new coolant in
>avoid air bubbles
>screw everything back in

8700k consumes more power, costs more and isnt faster in gaming and is slower in everything else
i.e. its shit

>techpowerup.com/257755/japanese-diy-market-goes-big-on-ryzen-68-6-market-share-for-amd
THE JEWS FEAR THE SAMURAI

I'm poor. That's what. I just need card that let me play f2p shit at 60 fps

used rx580 $100 on ebay knock yourself out nigga

anyone running ryzen 3000 on an asrock x370 killer? theres a good price for it where i live, and the asus x370 fag gives me hope

>Jews
>When the Radeon CEO is a kike
Hmm

Why do most builds use the 200R case?

Why should I not get 32GB of ram?

I don't want to be a ramlet in 2019

Hunt for used polaris gpu if you want to play 4 cheap

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everyone is a jew nowadays