Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Minimum 30-60fps gaming. The stronger 3400G sells for $150. (R3K APUs OCs better than R2K) >R5 2600 - 60fps+ gaming CPU with great value >R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU >R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU >R7 1700X - Budget video editing >R9 3900X - Professional tasks
RAM >Do not use a single DIMM. 2 sticks for a typical dual channel CPU >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 or Micron E-die ("AES" in P/N) recommended >AMD B & X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP >B-die is EOL, stock is limited
GPUs based on current pricing 1080p >RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale/used for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost >(GTX 1660TI @ ~$230/Vega56 @ ~$270) - higher fps / more demanding games >RX 5700 - higher FPS 1440p >RX 5700 - standard, 75-100FPS+ >RX 5700XT - higher fps 2160p (4K) >RTX 2070S OC - budget option. Turing scales better into 4K than Navi does. OR upscale from lower resolution with RIS >2080Ti - best for 4K but expensive
>Navi AIB models come mid-August. 5700 non-XT blower is alright, due to low power.
General >Yes, adaptive sync (free/g/sync) is important for gaming >NVMe isn't better than SATA SSD for gaming >Don't use Speccy >Don't trust sites which rank CPUs by arbitrary, obfuscated scores (eg userbenchmark, passmark, cpuboss) >AM4 VRMs + Monitors + SSD Guide under "more"
So what's a cheap and solid motherboard for a Ryzen 3600?
Anthony Evans
planning on watercooling it? nice purchase
the one that will allow you to passively or watercool the chipset
David Rogers
b450 tomahawk max
Cameron Myers
pretty badly, because you couldn't wait 2 weeks baka
msi tomahawk max or msi b450m mortar max
Joseph Rodriguez
I just purchased a Sapphire RX 5700T to replace my dead GTX 980. Running 1080p 120hz, i7 6700K, 16GB of memory. Will probably eventually upgrade to 1440p.
Did I fuck up?
Brayden Phillips
Reminder that OP is an AMD shill and doesnt want you to know intel is infinitely better
those cables are bad for OC, they make unstable voltages the dual end is the one on the GPU. thats why they have that VGA sign on them. they should also have a little optional nub that turns their 6 pin into 8 pin.
Juan Scott
Critique, I'm not buying anything for at least a few months. The monitor is just a placeholder for the 27GL850. I'm not a huge gamer, but I want this rig to last.
I want to buy a R9 3900X because 7NM so I can play Japanese porn games and watch youtube videos.
Convince me not to.
Noah Campbell
AMD 5800 XT WHEN
Aiden Lee
one for my phone and the 2nd one for my 3ds( probably) since they are really cheap (i dont live in the land of the >free) also the splitter is for my coolermaster v6 since the cord is gettiing kinda weak, i soldered and fixed it but its not the same as a brand new one i noticed that the new amd stock coolers need you to unmount the mobo plastic thing to install it like most aftermaker coolers so im 99% sure i can mount mine on an am4 board
So is it only older motherboards that need flashing to get Ryzen 3 to work?
I just bought a x570 board and would just like to be prepared. I saw some reviews that said it needed flash but it doesn't seem right since these are brand new boards.
Colton Butler
Getting a 1600p monitor and a VR headset, is an RX 580 good enough for games and VR h-games/porn?
Christian Nguyen
it will need because the bios has changed
afaik it will oc poorly compared to proper 2 cables its fine, you shouldnt push too much or else the gpu would die too soon anyway
Daniel Ward
X570 should work out of the box
Nathaniel Myers
cope more anime faggot
Carter Brooks
Any recommendations for VR headsets? Thinking about getting one for h-games and porn. Should I just wait for Index, wait(TM) for a better Reverb, or just get an Odyssey+ off eBay?
Also, when is 3rd-gen Threadripper getting released?
Mason Harris
How much of an OC difference are we talking, compared to 2 proper cables? Because my PSU comes with 2 of those cables and I could use them if I wanted.
I've had my ryzen 1600 for about 4 or so years now. When is a good time to upgrade your cpu? or are cpus supposed to last longer than gpus? i mainly use my computer for gaymen btw
Xavier Williams
If your mobo can handle a gpu and CPU upgrade you should do that or cpu + ram
I know my mobo can handle a cpu upgrade. I just don't know about gpu. was eyeing a 1660 since I have an RX 580 right now. I already have 16 GB of ram so I don't think getting any more will do me much good.
Austin Brown
do people even buy biostar mobos? how's that company still afloat?
They were good back in the day. Then Gigabyte stopped being shit and MSI followed suit and Biostar just got left behind. Now Asus, Gigabyte and MSI appear to just clone each other.
Gabriel Sanders
you did alright, though check geizhals.de for prices. they list a 2TB MX500 for 220€ and the meshify C dark TG for 70€ you won't need a 750W PSU. 650W will be more than enough.
Isaac Wright
Looks solid.
M.2 arent fasters than SATA's just a head ups. (At least on gayming)
Dominic Johnson
I don't where else to turn to, Jow Forums, but my PC is stuck on a boot loop. I've changed the ram slots around, unplugged each non vital component, reset my BIOS when it managed to boot into them on one rare occasion and nothing's changed. Faulty power supply maybe? It's a EVGA 650 G1 I've had for about 4 years
A GPU upgrade is always good, if you want to take it a step further you can get a new mobo to fit your current parts and the new one you want, while upgrading your cpu
Bentley Ward
>They were good back in the day what timeframe are we talking about here?
What benefit is there to getting a new mobo? From my understanding they are more sturdy than GPUs or CPUs so I don't really see the benefit in upgrading this early. Unless there is a big benefit to "upgrading" I don't really see a point.
Brayden James
you'll never pass
Isaac Morales
When Gigahertz was optional.
Christopher Phillips
I didn't pay those prices, I autistically used geizhals on everything, even got the monitor new for 275€, that shit goes for 100€ more usually. Just wanted to check if my build was ok.
>you won't need a 750W PSU. 650W will be more than enough The difference in price was miniscule, I got a good deal on the 750. I also like having wattage headroom for possible future upgrades and/or OCing. Is there a downside to running a larger PSU than you need? I don't think PSUs draw more power than needed, so in theory I shouldn't pay a higher electricity bill using a 1000W PSU or a 650W one when both will only draw the power the system needs?
Dominic Richardson
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor I'm just gonna use the fan it comes with
My monitor is shitting itself, and my PC will sometimes freeze for no reason. I can't find the default component, so why not upgrade everything.
I don't play as much but I use the Steam Link to play some shit with my family (Sonic Racing, Slap City, Overcooked).
Should I go for the 2600 140€ or 3600 240€ ? I don't really need the performance but I'm more interested in the Spectre mitigation, should I care as a consumer ?
Should I change my GPU or it's fine for the kind of thing I do ?
That being said, > change the PSU to a SeaSonic/Super Flower derived PSU > change from 2x8gb to 1x16gb RAM Other than that, everything else is up to personal preference. Maybe get the 3700? Personally, I got the ASRock Gaming K4 motherboard because of the way the PCI-E ports are and a Corsair 200R case.
Justin Thompson
With the rigs I've had and the rigs I've built/upgraded especially the ones that got upgraded bit by bit getting a mobo is good for me because I like to have it ready for when I need it
Brody Hernandez
3700 Is too expensive for me the storage isnt going to be that big of a problem but is it really good to change the gpu?
Andrew Williams
What should I choose between a 2060 Super and 2070 if they are the same price? I think the 2070 has slightly better performance but I've read about reliability issues with them
Matthew Rivera
> 4770k > gtx1080
should i get a 1440p/144hz monitor or is my computer too shitty to actually take advantage of the higher resolution/framerate?
Yeah for me I think I might just upgrade my CPU (and maybe my GPU if I have some cash laying around). My RAM is good as is my mobo for now so I don't think those are necessary.
Adrian Williams
DeepCool Neptwin V2 or Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black for my new 3700X? Or is the stock cooler fine somehow?
Jackson Peterson
TR4 only _supports_ up to DDR4-2933 running in quad, and lists DDR4-1866 for quad by two, i.e. all eight slots. How does this translate to actual performance. I assume I can use DDR4-3200 just fine, do I declock it though? Buy cheaper RAM in the first place? Only use four slots? I thought more slots was more better, how does this translate to actual workload?
Grayson Clark
Go for it man, seems like a solid plan.
Joseph Diaz
get the super. runs cooler, quieter, more efficient, more updated.
Samuel Fisher
>i7-4770K >GTX 1080 How old is this build? The 4770K and Haswell's still hold up quite nicely today for games and some 3D environments. I just got the 3700X for my new build since i need the extra power for workstation use. Keeping my 4770K though. You could still easily get a few more years out of these two if you don't find yourself not getting the desired performance in what you do.
Alexander Williams
A good time to upgrade CPUs is after a new socket has been released and it's been given a few months to mature. Either you can upgrade your motherboard and CPU and won't experience the problems early adopters have or can upgrade your existing CPU to another one of the same socket after initial shock when prices deflate due to new tech. AMD is a lot better when it comes to CPUs than Intel because they don't change sockets every two years. And yes, CPUs last longer than GPUs. I'm using dual X5975s myself, which are over a decade old. Other guys still use i7 920s, i5 2500Ks, or i7 4700Ks and don't have problems. You're fine.
As for GPUs, wait for the next architecture, then a year after that for the inevitable refresh. AMD's mid-range cards haven't been updated yet.
Brody Roberts
started this pc with a 4770k gtx 770 combo but the 770 died so i got the 1080 (because it was the same price as a 1070). must have been around 2014 or so
my 1080p monitor is older than the cpu so i wanted to get something better
Is it a problem with the mobo or the drive? Might be that your MBR got fucked. Just make a LiveCD and try to use that to recover your install.
Nicholas Ross
Anyone else who's planned to construct an all AMD build for this or next year to go alongside their 4-6+ year old Intel & AMD build?
I'm already doing maintenance and refurbishing on my 4 year old i7-4770K & MSI R9 280X build courtesy of the late ESC for the past month.
I'm probably going to use my new workstation as the render slave funnily enough whilst i use my old system in the meantime since it's still got a few years left in it, just to be more efficient.
Brayden James
What are the best large mousepads?
Daniel Myers
Get a Tomahawk MAX else it looks pretty solid
Daniel Rivera
I think even the 580 BTFO the 970 nowadays. Vega 56 or a 1080/Ti would be best for you to upgrade to, though. Don't forget, > 3.5 GB
Benjamin Williams
I use a large smooth marble slab as my desk and it's by far the best mousepad I've ever used
Christopher Sanders
Its a mousepad bro Get one from steelseries if you care about gayming, else just order something from amazon in your size
Colton Williams
3200 will be fine, it'll just get underclocked by the BIOS. More modules is actually shittier when it comes to new AMD architecture since you can't reliably overclock all RAM modules to the same speed and you get more benefits from faster RAM than from additional memory space from dual/triple/quad-channelling.
I personally use one of those UPG gunpads.
Zachary Bailey
Should I get a used Fury or a used 580? Should I save up for a Vega 56 instead or go with the 5700?
