/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and monitor suggestions; click on titles above parts lists to see notes
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>How to assemble a PC
youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g

Want help?
>State budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing:
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS)
>R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming
>R5 2600 - Good gaming CPU with great value
>R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU
>R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU
>R7 1700X - Budget video editing
>R9 3900X - Professional tasks

RAM:
>Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended
>CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal
>AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP

Graphics cards based on current pricing:
>Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty
1080p 16:9
>RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value
>GTX 1660 - standard
>RX 5700 - overkill framerates*
1440p 16:9 + 1080p 21:9
>RX 5700 - basic
>RX 5700XT - standard*
>RTX 2070 Super - higher framerates in some games*
2160p 16:9 + 1440p 21:9
>RTX 2070 Super - standard
>RTX 2080Ti - best fit for 4K but expensive
*requires complementary CPU and high Hz monitor

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync
>A 250GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
>Bottleneck checkers are worthless

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Stop saying the 2070 Super is
>high framerates in some games
when it's also LOWER in other games. It's retarded.
Even when it's higher, it's 20% more expensive without being 20% faster. It's a bad buy unless you just want to play 4K on medium settings.

That was an awful deal.
Reddit is fucking retard.
Fury stutters badly with its 4GB in a lot of newer games. You can get a 8GB RX580 for that price.
Fury no longer gets driver optimization support so Polaris often ends up performing better in 2019 games.

oh no no no
AHAHAHAHAHAHHA

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One day intelbros we will defeat evil antisemitic AMD

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How much more is the XT than the 5700 got how much performance gain?
Is it worth it

>You can get a 8GB RX580 for that price.
No you can't. They start at $150 on a good day with a wicked good sale. A couple generation old flagship having been previously mined on I'd accept for that price. A current gen mid-tier card for more money having been mined on I'd avoid like the plague. I was hoping if it was apparently good enough as a 1440p card for the time, it'd be good enough for >60FPS at 1080p, but it doesn't matter because that ship sailed anyway.
>so Polaris often ends up performing better in 2019 games.
Newest game I've touched is EDF5, and that's the only one and it hardly counts as A, nevermind AAA.

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>have a cheap msi b450m board
>update bios for the 3000s chips
>literally not a single problem
How are people having so many issues? I'm literally a tech retard and it worked out great.

pwm fans and a ryzen 3700x is a bad mix no matter the config

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Thank me later user

Continuing on this
I tried setting max P states to 1 for both memory and gpu and see at which point everything crashes with a benchmark.
At P1 it didnt' crash and I got the memory to P3.
But as soon as I applied P2 for the GPU the pc locked up.
I am getting the feeling that the VRMs burned down somehow (even though their temps never went over 60-70C)
and thats why the sensors on them are showing 0C, thats why with higher load the whole thing locks up.
but it does makse sense

When will be a good time to buy a GPU? Rather, should I just buy an AIB 5700XT when they come out or should I wait until the next gen cards?

1440p the xt is the correct choice
1080p it doesnt matter

AIB 5700xt will be great cards. Dont fall for the justwait™ meme

I'm also grappling over whether 5700XT will be powerful enough. I just don't want to drop 2080 Ti money.

de.pcpartpicker.com/list/FbgZgw
Give advice on how to improve aesthetics of this build. Do you think the asuka figure will fit in the case? Suggestions for the monitor are welcome also. (1440p 144hz)

>Card will be dusty do not return the card if you don't want dusty card
>Bitching about the return policy in general when this is chinkland and there's no way you're getting a refund in a timely manner shipping that shit back
>DO NOT WASH CARD IN SINK DUMB GWAI LO
>Testing the card to make sure it works with a free trial version of a 2003 3DMark benchmark
I should be thanking you for the laughs, if anything.

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best ram speeds for new ryzen?

any specific recommendations?

Get the fuck out Asuka faggot.

Powerful enough for what user? Pricing is not really a concern Powercolor have already confirmed the pricing will be the same as their blower cards

clean it out yourself faggot, also i you win a dispute on ali the seller has to pay for shipping. (which they never bother doing, you'll get refund anyway) Ali has excellent buyer protection

depends how much horsepower you want
5700xt is good all rounder that'll last at least 5 years
but if you want the heavy artillery (2080ti tier) better wait for big navi

I honestly hated her in the series, I just thought she worked with the colour scheme

Powerful enough to consistently hit 60FPS on 4K. As far as price, what I'm saying is my budget can be higher than what the 5700XT is at, but I also don't want to hit 2080 Ti prices either.

I'd just like to see what their pricing structure will be. If it's not $1200, I'd gladly buy a 5900 for longevity sake.

3200mhz minimum 3600mhz is the recommended.

Reposting from last thread, what's the motherboard to go for if I'm planning on running a 3600, but with the catch being I need muh wi-fi?

Can I OC a 3200mhz ram?

aorus x570 pro wifi

Anyone know when 2080 Supers will be in stock? Looking for the EVGA 3 fan version

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It's guaranteed to be a used mining card that wasn't taken care of. It's guaranteed to die in a year, tops, if you're really nice to it and clean the fuck out of it yourself, replace the paste, etc. Why buy a lemon you have a 200% chance of getting chinked on?

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Maybe, but it was binned and advertised at 3200 for a reason.

Whats the best Air cooler for Zen 2?

this
3000mhz with a cas latency of 15 is acceptable also. corsair vengeance ram is best for overclocking and ballistix sport is good if cheaper.

wait for big navi and the prices will drop drastically

Annoyingly that's like the only board I can't find in stock where I live.

lmao don't listen to this retard.
ram speeds beyond 2666 are a meme

just get a pci wifi card or usb

Not really though

youtube.com/watch?v=kP9F0h7qP_g

Its not 2010 anymore

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If no plans to overclock stock is fine. If you are gonna buy a cooler go for a cheap one like a hyper 212 black. aliexpress.com/item/32958609112.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.33d73c00Ri5ok0
This was reviewed on techyescity if you just want a cheap cooler to increase the lifespan of your CPU

are you by any chance the user who was shilling 4k 60hz TVs a few threads ago

Is a 650W PSU enough for a low to mid build?

Amd master auto overclocked my 3700 to 4.4+ at 1.45 volts, I chose creator mode and lock it at 1.38 because I didn't know if the auto clock was ok. Not sure how to get it back to default settings.
What should I be doing? What do I disable or enable in the bios and on ryzen master.
Performance is really top class in many ways so far.

No. I know better than that.

It'll be fine, yeah.

lmao what's your point?

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more than enough, my r5 3600 and rx 5700xt will only draw ~400w and pc parts are only getting more efficent. (I'll be using a 550w psu)

Plenty, even my 4690K/R9 290 combo never pulled more than 550W from the wall when both were overclocked and the power limits were set to 150%.

i don’t know about the h500, but she can’t fit inside my h210

>2666
>that 1% low
Imagine defending that

forgot pic

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>tfw mining GPU
>tfw considering a mining PSU next
Too bad these are the only components worth getting from mining rigs. A cheap decent CPU would be nice.

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So I gave this thing a shot. Went into the BIOS and set the RAM frequency to 3200 and all the timings to these values, rebooted and was hit with two issues.
1) Upon booting the hardware shuts down three times after a couple seconds before finally booting properly. What the hell is this? Doesn't sound healthy and it triples my boot time.
2) When I got into Winblows and checked HWInfo, it still showed the original clock speed under current performance settings. Went back to the BIOS and there it measured even differently (2800 or something).

After this, I tried resetting everything to default and only setting the clock speed to 3000. Gave me a BSOD and initiated recovery/repair which even XMP didn't do.
So I set it back to default (2133) and I'm running fine again, but with gimped RAM speed.

I'm out of ideas now. Any help?

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what's the best 32inch monitor for gaming?
I'll be using a 3900x and a 2080ti

The one you built yourself

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sugoi

Almost bought that and decided I'll save more money with the A1 plus

Grats, you won the mobo gacha.

Thanks for the help my weaboo friend. Considering your case is itx i stil have a chance. Pcpartpicker states that the case is 460mm tall. considering a standard atx psu is 86 mm tall roughly 374mm of space is left in the case. The Asuka figure is 270 mm tall so this should be grand.
The next thing to consider is the space at the front of the case. There is 381mm card clearance in the case and the rx 5700xt will be about 273mm long so we gucci.

>or should I wait until the next gen cards?
They've literally just been released less than a month ago. If you need the performance for your monitor, you need it. Waitfagging any more than two months prior to a new generation release is retarded, let alone just after a generation has dropped. The only thing currently worth waitfagging for is maybe the likely hood of a higher range Navi card if the 5700XT doesn't do what you need it to.

rate
pcpartpicker.com/list/ktPvzY
actual build tho, not a meme, even if it seems like so

If it's less than a month old, it's time to RMA my dude.

yeah i wanted the smallest possible case that could comfortably fit an nh-d15

post pics

Wont be buying parts for a while, will be sure to attention whore on here when I do tho

retarded price/performance, go buy a fucking car or something

i have have a car, but i already see the flaws, is amd launching 5800 and 5900 ?

The 9900K is cheaper and better than the 3900X

You probably want a better case than a h500, cooling is mediocre at best, other than that, an excellent offering to the corporate jew

yes they will, just like intel will launch their gpus

more like its time to kill myself

he was talking about navi cards you clueless shill

How do you know what he was talking about?

Oh right, it's because you're samefagging the fuck out of this thread.

.Waitfagging any more than two months prior to a new generation release is retarded

enjoy the wasted money and buyers regret

Fuck off retard
hothardware.com/news/sapphire-amd-radeon-rx-5800-5900-navi-navi-20

>spending all that money and then cheaping out on the monitor and case

you might as well just pony up for the 2tb EVO since you are already overpaying for everything

and get the h510 elite instead

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O shit whoops im a tad sleep deprived, i thought was in response to
Apologies for any inconvenience caused

>buys pc with amd cpu and amd gpu
>can't use android emulator because it needs intel's hyper-v
>can't use many machine learning packages because they require nvidia's cuda
why the fuck do people recommend amd again

pcpartpicker.com/list/WQ8Ptg
5700xt is placeholder for future amd cards

Android emulator?
lmao

>1200 watt psu
Why?

this might sound too complex for you but developing for android requires somewhere to test you program, yes. people can use emulators to test their apps in different versions of android. it is not rocket science, really.

oh shit forgot about that, replace with most sensate option pcpartpicker.com/list/bWMXCb

>pcpartpicker.com/list/WQ8Ptg
is right. If you want super high end psu just get the Seasonic Prime Titanium Ultra instead

jonnyguru.com/blog/2017/12/25/seasonic-prime-ultra-1000-titanium-power-supply/

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Tired of waiting for this fuckin monitor. Said aug 8th but delivery say sept 5th

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I kind of want to buy an aib 5700xt but i hate amd so much and fear the drivers will give me shit and piss me off. If aibs start at 450 i may as well just buy a 2070s. Idk. Still thinking about it. If aib 5700xt go for 400 id suppose its the only logical choice

dude, looking back at it, I would gladly spend a bit more for shit that just works, I don't know how much you earn but I lost far more money in time while dealing with amds shit

And are you gonna post it every fucking day?

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Keep holding out bro.

I bought the ad27dq thinking itd be fine and the response times are disgusting ln balance od. Speed od has terrible overshoot when using gsync and less than 120 hz as well.

At least the colors look better than my ancient pg279q.

my only experience with amd is bulldozer, and it was a housefire, dunno about their new gpus though

pcpartpicker.com/list/p3zpZR
How is it for an around 1000$ build?

I had a amd game laptop long ago, and a8 apu, a 7700hd, and an fx 6300. It was all a huge fucking mistake and its really hard for me to want to give them a couple hundred dollars. 7700hd wasnt that bad though desu

lol look at this waitlet
just get a shitty pixio if you can't handle the wait

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Good

Yeah probably should just stick with that that works. I lose my fucking mind when i come home from fixing broken shit all day at my programing job and my projects at home fuck all but and i have to fix them. My samsung smart tv is usually setting me off because its pos software

No bitch ive waited for years already and almost bought a pixio but i am glad i waited

listen to punk music

I plan to buy 3700x, which motherboard should I buy, asus prime x570-pro or TUF gaming x570-plus ? or maybe there is something better from gigabyte (around $250).

I like dead kennedys

>not getting the tomahawk MAX

> getting the Ballistix Sport LT instead of AT version

>getting a reference card

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>I lose my fucking mind when i come home from fixing broken shit all day at my programing job and my projects at home fuck all but and i have to fix them.
Yeah, comfy vidya time is instead troubleshoot your GPU time.
It feels like work, except you payed for it instead of getting payed for it.

Just buy a midrange msi its not like poozen can oc so why pay more unless you want special features