Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Minimum 30-60fps gaming. The stronger 3400G sells for $150. (R3K APUs OCs better than R2K) >R5 2600 - 60fps+ gaming CPU with great value >R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU >R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU >R7 1700X - Budget video editing >R9 3900X - Professional tasks
RAM >Do not use a single DIMM. 2 sticks for a typical dual channel CPU >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 or Micron E-die ("AES" in P/N) recommended >AMD B & X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP >B-die is EOL, stock is limited
GPUs based on current pricing 1080p >RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale/used for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost >(GTX 1660TI @ ~$230/Vega56 @ ~$270) - higher fps / more demanding games >RX 5700 - higher FPS 1440p >RX 5700 - standard, 75-100FPS+ >RX 5700XT - higher fps 2160p (4K) >RTX 2070S OC - budget option. Turing scales better into 4K than Navi does. OR upscale from lower resolution with RIS >2080Ti - best for 4K but expensive
>Navi AIB models come mid-August. 5700 non-XT blower is alright, due to low power.
General >Yes, adaptive sync (free/g/sync) is important for gaming >NVMe isn't better than SATA SSD for gaming >Don't use Speccy >Don't trust sites which rank CPUs by arbitrary, obfuscated scores (eg userbenchmark, passmark, cpuboss) >AM4 VRMs + Monitors + SSD Guide under "more"
AMD already pre-binned those for you unlike Intel where you need to play the lottery. Learn to importance sampling
Jackson Harris
No don't do that it makes mustard gas
Eli Robinson
How the fuck can i flash a board that has no BIOS flashback if i dont have 2nd Gen Ryzen CPU? i'm pretty much fucked and forced to look into different boards, or what? (Plan on Building my first PC)
Ian Morgan
>no dont do that it makes mustard gas what the fuck are you doing user? he almost fell for the trap
Jack Stewart
is realtek lan as bad as people say it is?
Bentley Hill
Borrow a 200GE from amazon Get a friend to do it Get a local store to do it Get a loan CPU from AMD Use a SPI flasher
Currently running my R5 2600 @4.2GHz using 1.3925v can't go lower for 4.2GHz. Should I just give up on running the cpu 24/7 at 4.2 and go down to 4.0? I can run the CPU at 4.0 with 1.3v Also should I update my bios? currently using a msi b450-a pro with AGESA 0.0.7.2
Mason Allen
Consider stop being a retarded faggot and come back later
Jason Phillips
What is better 3200 with 16cls or 3000 with 14cls?
Hudson Green
Read the manual you lazy fuck.
James Gray
what's the max safe voltage for 2600?
Nathaniel Mitchell
First gen had 1.425v Second gen has 1.35-1.4v
Adrian Morales
ok thanks
Gabriel Nguyen
Thinking about upgrading for PS3 emulation purposes. Currently running a 6600K + RX 570 4GB with 16 gigs of 3000mhz ram. Is it just a meme at this point or does Intel still perform better when it comes to emulators? Will I also need to upgrade my GPU to run let's say Person 5 in 4k60fps?
Benjamin Turner
>pre-binned >90% of the chips can't even hit their advertised boost speeds Yeah AMD really is great at "sampling"
Matthew Cox
If you're gonna go for emulator games then I suggest you go for a i9 9900K and RTX 2080 super.
Jeremiah Brooks
So i sold my 1080 ti a few months back to help family to get out of a financial rut asap, Which is no problem because a bro of mine is letting me use one of his ones. (SLI system)
Problem is I don't want to spend the stupid amounts of cash the 2080 ti is and the 2080 is literal 1080 ti performance.
1400p144hz gaymer btw. So i have no clue what the fuck to do, Do i just /wait/ for high end navi?
Titan RTX and Xeon W-3275 is bare minimum for emulating ps3 games at 480p 25fps
Liam Parker
Forgot to type since i'm phoneposting, Bro wants his card back hence why i'm in the need for one and i have a Ryzen system so no iGPU.
Jeremiah Ramirez
just buy sapphire 5700 xt , its new 1080ti with few features for a cost of ~400$
James Walker
The fuck is wrong with you guys? I'm not opposed to the idea of going with Ryzen, but from what I've heard Intel is or was supposed to perform better in emulators, if that's not the case anymore - good.
>UserBenchmarks Don't pay too much attention to this rubbish.
William Morgan
3990X when.
Carson Ramirez
that is still only 1 game. they dont even have mgs4 playable yet.
Xavier Rivera
upscaled GARBAGE to 4k at 60fps why do people do this
Lincoln Lewis
>high end navi Don't expect that to come anytime soon.
Eli Bell
late q4 2019 confirmed already lol
Luis Moore
>dude just wait
Xavier Martin
just buy what u dont really want goy westerners disgust me
Mason Martinez
It's not 2009, SSD writes aren't a thing to be concerned about.
Evan Mitchell
Any suggestions to what I should use?
Ryan Rivera
brain
Dylan Nguyen
Use the computer. Do things with it, stop worrying about numbers unless you need to diagnose a problem.
Wyatt Richardson
Really tempted by the Meshify C but I can't decide on a tempered glass side or just a regular solid one. I like the window aesthetic but tempered glass makes me paranoid. Is it absolutely going to explode and destroy my computer one day? I also read somewhere that every time you tap it, the window gets closer to smashing like it accumulates damage because of how it's been made, is that true?
Zachary Phillips
wake me up when i can finally play mgs4
Oliver Perry
[citation needed]
Owen Jenkins
Do you have a source for that? I only have seen interviews where Su said it was coming, not a timeframe of when it was coming.
Levi Hughes
I have a Mesh C with dark TG for over 2 years now, glass is fine. Don't know where you read that shit.
Nolan Lopez
date is not set in stone yet since drivers are still in early finishing stages, also once R7 fully clears out. Do not get confused tho, this is not ''the big'' navi, it's just navi 12 one step up, tho it takes fat dump on 2080
Austin Thompson
>Source: my ass
Anthony Kelly
Yeah sorry I dont make youtube videos
Michael Stewart
>Still no source Yeah not buying it.
Leo Miller
>recommended: 6 thread CPU
12 threads are fine for a good couple years, just plop in a cheap 4700x/4900x in 2024
the only game that gives my 2600 a workout at 1440p is battlefield 5, everything else doesn't even hit 50% usage with a 2080
Luis Ward
>the only game that gives my 2600 a workout at 1440p is battlefield 5 are we talking high or ultra?
Jason Fisher
Mix of settings for highest framerate, lowest it goes to is about 120 with 64 players crammed into one spot with explosions like arras frontlines.
Ultra is the easiest on the CPU since most of the work will be done on the GPU.
Luke Fisher
3999WXSFK when
Ryder Nelson
is pcie 4.0 on the x570 mobos a real game changer? or can i just buy the b450 tomahawk max without missing out on anything
Where to go for hardware advice? >Jow Forums is forced drama, clickbait, disinformation and bar graphs without source or context >big YT channels and websites are sponsored >forums from web search are just anecdotal evidence, works/doesn't work on my machine
Asus prime x570-pro Or Msi mpg x570 carbon pro wifi? For 3700x/3800x.
Michael Gutierrez
look at multiple benchmarks
Chase Mitchell
Is the MSI b450 gaming plus good enough for zen 2? Not really eager to spend the extra forty euro for the x470 version if bios flashback will work on the b450
Levi Jackson
Imo the taichi is not much more, but overkill for a 3700. Decide which do you want first.
James Bailey
get the MAX versions of the msi boards instead
they support ryzen out of box and have 36mb of rom storage
Wyatt Mitchell
yeah but i don't think you'll be able to OC a 12c or a 16c a lot
Angel Kelly
the msi it has better vrm
Michael Gray
only advantage that i've seen so far is faster speeds for NVMe drives
Kayden White
i'm torn between a 3700x or a OC'd 9600k bundle, which one should i go for?
The difference is 60 euros and I already have a pcie wifi adapter so its not a must. Id rather stay at 260eur mobos then jump to 320 one, I'm more interested in bios, pcie slots and memory oc here. Taichi is a good choice but i got 2 ram sticks 2x16gb, doubt I'll go for 64 in the future and im not sure if using 2 sticks on t topology will have any drawbacks. Could you by any chance recommend a x570 board with better vrms but more pcie slots than the carbon pro in the similar price range? 200-300euros
Am I better off just going for a 9600k over a 3600 for gaming? This whole zen 2 motherboard situation is pissing me off and the i5 is only slightly more expensive.
Nicholas Anderson
All those things you mentioned probably work better on the taichi. But what I wanted to say is that it's way overkill for the 3700, so if you choose that, you should look for a cheaper one. Also, here the taichi is not 320 euro, but whatever. I just wanted to point out that the mobos you look at are already a bit too expensive for a 3700, but for a 3800 and possible upgrade you might want something better. So decide on the CPU first.
Lincoln Ward
Sure if you don't mind stutters
Lincoln Cruz
Just get a 3600 and get better than the 9600k for cheaper. 3700X is what you'd compare to the 9700k, not 9600k. Not sure. Looks like a very cheap ASRock board and not the Prime z390 it claims to be.
