I support the notion that if you don’t want to sell something to someone, you should have the right to do.
If you think cloudflare should not discriminate between speeches, do you think the bakery should be forced to sell cakes to people whom they don’t want?
Yes but cakeshop doesnt encompass 10 000s of people. Cloudflare does. No one give a shit about small business of one man. Cloudflare is big as fuck shit. It's like you deine to cross the road to the people you don't like. Of course they will be mad and it's against the law.
Bentley Cox
I don't care about kikeflare's rights anymore than they care about my right not to bake gay cakes for gay jewish niggers. If I had it my way owners of all antiwhite businesses would be arrested and have their property confiscated .
Anthony Powell
The mental gymnastics force is already on the scene, I expect nothing less
Henry Long
quite
i won't let the most brazen hypocrites on the planet try to "gotcha" me. these quasi-governmental corporations do not have rights. they are not people. they are not mom & pop. eat shit.
Logan Carter
>corporations do not have rights
Sounds like you're a dirty socialist
Noah Price
>poltards can't write a sentence without racial slurs or forced memes Jow Forums really does rot the brain.
Julian Price
Sexuality is a protected class, your shitty opinions and conspiracy theories about minorities are not.
Angel Morris
yes; and?
Colton Ortiz
I fully support Cloudflare because I'm not a stupid communist and I know it's better to let markets decide. If they don't want to sell, great, a competitor who wants to will pop up if there is enough demand.
It shouldn't be. If you are a degenerate people SHOULD be able to discriminate against you.
Jason Cox
What conspiracy theories you fucking retard? That these subhumans are filth and need to leave? Get outside and out of your moms basement. If cloudflare can be fags to 8ch then the bakers don't have to bake the cake. Actually, the cake is less important, they can just go somewhere else. Cloudflare is more important, fuck those jews
Nathan James
how does cloudflare make money and why did it have no period of obscurity? one day it just suddenly existed and was in use by many websites.
also it just slows sites down
Jaxon Nguyen
>everyone who isn't like me is a (racial_slur) And you retards wonder why nobody wants to associate with you.
Austin Hernandez
i doubt therell be a competitor to fill in the gap for white supremacist websites or what have you.
Michael Smith
>created in 2009 >became popular around 2013 >"no period of obscurity" Wew.
Kayden Cox
>antiwhite i'd say have sex but at this point lets just be realistic, just end it already user
Oliver Brooks
you should be barred from the internet for ableism
FASCIST NAZIS ARE NOT WELCOME HERE
Carson Parker
I think anyone who wants to operate a licensed public business should have to serve everyone as a condition of their license.
Anthony Jackson
if you want to play that game, whites should -- and must -- be legally and socially permitted to speak of nonwhites in the same manner that nonwhites are permitted to speak of whites
Liam Nelson
Move to Brazil.
Josiah Brooks
>everyone who doesn't agree with me with a strawman sjw (You)
Wyatt Brown
>everyone who doesn't agree with me is an [ableist slur]
Blake Parker
you first
Kevin Davis
this, my NIGG-
James Wilson
>72194289 (You)
Thomas Torres
what does hueland have to do with your social skill problems
Andrew Cooper
>Reductio ad absurdum Your analogy can be taken only under two assertions. 1. Are cakes critical for your business? 2. Is the bakery the only one in the whole country?
If the answer is yes to both and the bakery is conditioning you to sell you cakes under certain circunstances things change a lot. If you have lots of bakeries around, this would be a non-issue as you can just opt for a bakery that doesn't discriminate you for your opinion.
Easton Lewis
It's not discrimination you fucking retards. 8ch actively breached Cloudflare's ToS which means termination of the service.
Robert Harris
GO TO POL YOU FAG
Nathan Smith
Oh no he's retarded. He didn't even read the screenshot. >In particular, by refusing to provide creative services
Obviously, an artist making a making a cake is not the same as a communication utility.
Grayson Diaz
I see islamic extremism and Antifa operating in the open in Twitter and Facebook and I don't see Cloudflare terminating their services to them.
Cameron Allen
Corporations cannot simultaneously have individual rights and not be punishable in the same way an individual is. When a person is convicted for terrible crimes, they're sent to jail. They can't hurt anyone anymore, and their life is put on hold. When a corporation is convicted for terrible crimes, they're fined. Often, this fine is covered by the higher profit margins they experienced by being shitheads. Corporations who have shown themselves to be sociopathic must be imprisoned. "You must stop all business activity except to pay immediate debts for a period of 90 days". That's a pretty crippling punishment, and there's less conflict of interest in ordering it over ordering them to pay a sum of legal protection money.
John Bennett
>Get outside and out of your moms basement That lack of self-awareness tho
More like AT&T cutting you off because cloudflare is replaceable.
Colton Bell
1.Facebook and Twitter don't use Cloudflare. 2. Facebook and Twitter are under heavy criticism for their inefficent moderation. 3. Facebook in particular has been named by the UN as partially responsible for the Myanmar genocide. 4. Facebook is under investigation by the USA and EU for their mismanagement of private data and their failure to moderate misinformation and hate speech. 5. Facebook and Twitter do not encourage said behaviour and in fact try to moderate it. 8ch actively refuses to moderate and even encourages such behaviour which is why this isn't even the first 8ch mass shooter.
But sure, keep pretending its an evil conspiration against pol.
Joshua Hall
>be an amerishart >lick corporate boots Like clockwork
Juan Perry
Utilities are public goods. Cloudflare and the bakery are not.
Joshua Hernandez
>8ch actively refuses to moderate and even encourages such behaviour which is why this isn't even the first 8ch mass shooter. rubbish
Jordan Flores
what the fuck is a public good when it's at home? completely arbitrary term
Jordan Davis
Because cloudflare is an infrastructure company. Do you think electrical companies should cut people off the grid if they dislike them politically?
>Corporations cannot simultaneously have individual rights and not be punishable in the same way an individual is Sure they can, what the fuck are you gonna do about it? Make some shitty laws? They'll just move headquarters to some other place and suddenly your economy is in the tanker. Stop using them? Drops in a fucking ocean. Global corporations can only be held in check by global government or zero government influence combined with a universally educated and properly self-interested consumer base. Neither of those will ever happen, so get on your knees and start sucking corporate dick before they start becoming more effective at using the mountains of dirt they have on you.
Noah Hall
Pro tip: it’s not.
Gabriel Morgan
you'll get to the point where ROFL WHY ARE YOU SO BUTTHURT ABOUT BEING BARRED FROM ALL BANKS AND CARD SERVICES AND ISPS AND SUPERMARKETS JUST START YOUR OWN
Ryan Bailey
>Do you think electrical companies should cut people off the grid if they dislike them politically? Unironically yes
Kevin Hill
>big goiporations are bad >selects parking meters from 9 images to post reply effectively helping google’s ai
How fuckign new are you or did you forget this site had elliot rogers? we would not be talking on this Korean basketweaving node js page if such a knee jerk reaction occured then.
Austin Cruz
My point is that major necessary things like payment processors, cloudflare, domain registrars, google, etc should be classified as public utilities and subject to the same laws as your ISP, your water company, your power company, and so on. Trying to equate these sort of natural monopolies and massive corporations to some local christfag who doesn't want to bake a cake for a fag wedding is completely disingenuous.
Michael Walker
>0.25 shekels has been deposited into your account
Jonathan Hughes
Should Jow Forums become a public utility, considering it is *the* most popular imageboard?
Aiden James
>oh no what a horrible distaster can you imagine how awful people's lives would be if they had to use localized and renewable energy sources instead of paying the """energy company""" to pump chemicals into my drinking water????
Rubbish? 8ch refuses to moderate doxxing boards even though it is illegal. There are a thousands reasons for Cloudflare to deny its services to 8ch. >knee jerk reaction 8ch has had years to fix their shit but they didn't want to.
Blake Wright
>If you think cloudflare should not discriminate between speeches, do you think the bakery should be forced to sell cakes to people whom they don’t want? comparing mom & pop's bakery to a company which controls 10% of the internet is disingenuous and dishonest
Jose Bennett
Yeah, they're public bads.
Nathaniel Ramirez
this, it's a false equivalence and I'm tired of this tactical lolbertarian bullshit used to encourage free-speech-suppression-by-proxy
Jow Forums has been warning about botnet services for many years. You just got the memo now that they can't be trusted? Did you think we were joking when we said make your own?
Jeremiah Fisher
If what they're saying isn't illegal, then sure. And I'm pretty sure they already do. Just like how cloudflare had no problem hosting literal ISIS websites but draws the line at a finnish ice-fishing forum where people throw up a memefesto or two.
Ryan Robinson
my stance hasn't changed in many years. This isn't some new revelation for me, but apparently there are still retards here who haven't gotten the memo.
Thomas Thomas
*refuses to sell to black people*
Jeremiah Gray
No I think it's you who hasn't gotten the memo. Make your own doesn't mean you are going to some magical free speech land. It means you can now choose to kick who you want off your platform. You know, the same thing that they do. You can't escape this.
Joseph Gomez
What was the fix for elliot rogers other than memes? My point is the reasoning is bullshit. This is a political gesture not an actual violation by 8ch. I think they're fucking hypocrites since cloudflare hosts fucking Jow Forums that had Breivik and Elliot both posting the exact same psychopathic shit on a vietnamese jpeg website. Those fags predated even infinichan existence.
Anthony Hughes
8ch hosts illegal content including doxxing, incitement to violence and libel none if which is protected speech no matter how much you retards keep screeching it is.
Asher Ross
If an entity is not either an individual or a company under sole proprietorship of a single us citizen or legal resident, then it should not have the right to free expression, or at least not the same right to free expression as individuals.
Aaron Butler
>he doesn't know Sink.jpeg
Nicholas Sanders
OY DAS FUKKEN RACSIT MATE HEY DIS GUYS FOOKEN RAYCIST YA DINK YA FUNY MISTAH RACIST
Noah Barnes
They got a new DNS. so they will continue to host "illegal" content and you will continue to be mad.
Josiah Foster
Ethnicity is protected, your shitty conspiracy theories aren't.
Austin Fisher
>twitter should allow radical islam Of course not, but they do. For over six years I have followed active ISIS members on Twitter and even voted in their execution polls.
Isaiah Carter
Question is will the silicon valley gang continue to hound the next provider until they shut Down completely? This isn't over, yet.
William Green
Good for you. Now go back.
Gavin Rogers
Seethe.
Cooper Campbell
It's the same guys that covered Stormfront. Until a judge literally declares their content illegal in a court of law they won't be taken down again, DNS wise. So, leftoids can seethe and cry and moan and I can say the nword in peace.
Thomas Johnson
They are already down again
Elijah Cox
It takes awhile for a DNS update to "down stream."
Elijah Martinez
How long is this gonna last? The tech space is still fast moving it will only a matter of time until current standards get replaced. How long before cloudflare and DNS gets replaced?
I checked and it looks like the plug was actually pulled on the new DNS provider, so, oof. I guess. Now we wait.
Juan Nguyen
the new >dilate, nice
Nicholas Morales
>Organizations have rights to deny their business to whomever they choose *organization flexes this right* >ORGANIZATIONS NEED TO PROVIDE FOR EVERYONE REGARDLESS. 1ST AMENDMENT REQUIRES IT. REEEEE Grow the fuck up Jow Forumstards
>Organizations have rights to deny their business to whomever they choose wrong Bake that cake you bigot.
Ryder Hill
>be libertarian >exclaim support for the rights of big business >get deplatformed to silence you over immigration issues so big business can suppress wages and ethnically cleanse your country of it's middle class work force Lolberts are idiots, but we both know that.
Bentley James
>comparing a cake to terrorist propaganda how did these goalposts get over here?
William Phillips
twitter has almost daily threads were people right of Marx are being doxxed for their beliefs.
Ian James
>I support the notion that if you don’t want to sell something to someone, you should have the right to do.
Sorry, i'm I somehow misunderstanding this sentence?
Brody Torres
Being homosexual isn't illegal, inciting violence is illegal.
Sexuality is protected and as such you cannot be denied of a job, service or product based on it; however being a fuckwit who gets all his political views from schizophrenics and bots is not, and as such people and companies are free to associate or not with you.
Cry some more faggot.
Isaac Reyes
>faggot Yikes, thats a doxxing bro hope you enjoy being deplatformed you hateful neo-nazi