What options does 8chayn have now?

I saw the news today that 8chayn was taken down and was curious what options do they have now?

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Who cares? Place was a fucking toilet.

Yes well I’m curious as to what options a site whose speech everyone deems unworthy would have.

wait no! where do I go now then I want some /cyber/?

They should kill themselfs

Latin America media is freer than the US. Where is this people making this research?

going underground. in the future tor will host drug markets and anime boards

Well at least it wasn't cuckchan

Hello rabbi

Keel over, die, and finally fuck off

Not have a ddos and global cdn provider.

The site will probably get ddosed to shit and will be slow as fuck otherwise.

gub gub snailman is gonna get pissed

They're probably shut down forever and that's a good thing

Jow Forums is next

[citation needed]

change its name to 8chännel and start again

Finally

Good, hotwheels did the right thing. I'm getting tired of all these edgy manifestos

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Says the 4channer

Exodus when?

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There is a bunker site available for anyone willing to install ZeroNet.

>Latin America media is freer than the US. Where is this people making this research?
Is it really that odd for Latin American governments to have less overall power/influence over the media?

are you talking about them coming here or us going to another site?

are you talking about 0chan?

4channeler*

>what options do they have now?
Suffer. It's what those autists deserve. Never turn your back on Yotusba.

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Strip out the radical political boards and leave the hobby/interests boards

When compared to the US? Of course. Isn't the USofA the pinnacle of liberty?

Like cloudflare but with Block chain

4chandler*

It will and should die in a fire of DDoS attacks.

arisuchan/lainchan

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bad things happen to those who betray her

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>I wonder why everybody with no mental health issue hates 8ch...

I just find it funny they went to get hosted at a company who is run by a CEO named Mr. Monster.

Everyone is going to Reddit.
Most people here already go to Reddit.

So you're telling me that Cloudflare basically has veto power on what websites are allowed to exist?

How did things get like this?

I for one am glad that socially conscious tech companies exist that are willing to take this sick filth off the internet.
How many more senseless tragedies must be allowed tonhappen before we finally ban assault speech?

They won in a capitalist, survival of the fittest, rules of nature environment

What competition do they have exactly?

Amazon and google cloud services are the biggest. There are smaller ones like Akamai, fat chance getting them to host 8ch content tho, bigger companies are usually more lenient towards nobodies because they fly under the radar. The dumb white nationalist faggots basically painted a target on 8ch when it wouldn't have been touched otherwise for being too small for giants to care

Given how tiny it was, is it really that hard to ask all their posters to just use tor and/or i2p?
Also what's the problem exactly, is it just cloudflare CDN etc. being a fuck or did their domain also get seized by the registrar?

They should have the freedom to say whatever they want. Corporations never gave a single fuck about this type of shit until basically 3 years ago and all in concert and at the same time. The problem with white nationalist which are mostly americans is that their race has fucked over so many other races throughout history that people are now ganging up on them even other whites. I say this is their own fault.

Why are people acting like Cloudflare "killed" 8ch? It's not like 8ch needs to use Cloudflare's service.

>They should have the freedom to say whatever they want.
They do. And private companies have the freedom to not be forced to serve clients they don't want to.

The former

They don't have options. They've been proscribed.
No-one will touch them now. The media will see to that.

This is a nakedly political, organised and effective takedown, no matter how many shills bleat about it being "commercial" and a "private" choice. We're supposed to believe this is because of the shootings, while NRA PR guys are sitting by silent phones wondering why all the journalists are writing about banning imageboards instead of AR-15s. For the last three days the media's first and stringest chorus has been "Guns don't kill people, posting kills people". I have never read so many brazen apologias for blatant political censorship as I have read over the past 12 hours.

So in short, 8chyanz are fucked comrade. No technological solution exists which allows them to continue to operate. Evne if one did they have all but been declared online enemies of the state and will never be able to escape the pressure and eventual legislation the ruling class will exert to get user to stop talking back.

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>ganging up on them even other whites
It's mostly other whites. Advertising and market is like 90% white at every company I've worked at besides a few token minorities and that's where the most corporate anti-white stuff comes from. White nationalists are freaking about a mostly white created problem. Black people generally aren't going around saying "ayy let's racemix whitey". There aren't even enough jews in the entire world to make up a fraction of the number of white people who don't like each other. More importantly, fuck anyone who wants to divide America. If you want america to be white have more white babies. If you want it to be brown have brown babies, that's all. Also, fuck off we're full, unless you're bringing something good for all of us.

>They should have the freedom to say whatever they want
Corporations should be free to do what they want with their property. Conservatives agreed with this sentiment until lefties started powerful tech companies that everyone uses. I don't think it's very fair to turn around and try to change the rules now unless you're going to fully commit to it and agree to regulate everyone, but it wasn't even that long ago that conservatives shut down net neutrality before it could take up, given the left was also being hypocritical by not pointing out actors like google and facebook and twitter should also have been subject to similar regulation.

This is the left winning using the same bad faith rules the right agreed to, it's fair. If you want to change the system change the entire thing, not just for lefty companies you don't like because they're biased against the right.

Corporations have no right to infringe on freedom of speech. I hope congress puts the boot down the assess of this corporate fucks doing this. Starting with tranny Twitter and MITMA lesbianic Cloudflare.

Do you think normies liked it before? Those few who knew of it knew it as a worse version of Jow Forums, and most view Jow Forums as a haven of stormfag tier nazis, incels, and/or CP. I don't think the opinion of average people matters in the least.
Corporations might not be willing to host them - but once the heat dies down a bit most except the really big ones will just stop caring. Isn't the daily stormer still alive? And that's assuming they use some big corp hosting anyway - there's always the option to get some Russian VPSes and darknet hidden services. It's not like their users are tech illiterate.

Seriously who cares but haven't people ever thought that some web site slash server that some single entity controls is not the way to do things? It seems that the only reasonable response to increasing corporate / government fusion efforts to knock free speech havens offline isn't to move to a new web site, but to use the numerous censorship-resistant protocols which are defined by RFC's and are federated instead. Chiefly, Usenet. ZeroNet's built in BBS is another possibility, it's text only so no shutting it down with illegal content. There are other options as well, switching to TOR-only could be a solution but an onion site is like any web site, it's controlled by a single entity.

Whatever the solution is, moving over to another web site isn't it. Even something like the Fediverse would be preferable and it'd be possible to rig up a server so that everybody can use the same account and effectively be "anonymous." There are already some free speech extremist fediverse servers.

You can't have websites that go against the Progressive/Globalist orthodoxia, OH NO NO ON NO NO NO

Seething this much

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>Corporations have no right to infringe on freedom of speech.
There's a few things wrong with this sentence. The first amendment only applies to the guberment creating laws restricting your freedom of speech, so by definition, it is impossible for a corporation to do this. That is a fact. Furthermore, Cloudflare didn't even shut 8ch down, they just decided to stop providing them a free service. Establishing the precedent that all internet services MUST provide service to everyone is asinine (it would also likely overturn the decision stating bakeries can refuse to bake cakes for gay weddings). Now, of course the government could tightly regulate these services more, but that would cost more money, expand the government's grasp on the internet, etc. Te people who are pushing for more government regulations aren't the people who typically post on 8ch.

>gummyment save muh free speech
The only thing congress is willing to put their foot down on is second amendment covering your sperg shit. So before that happens internet services deplatform alt-salt and self moderate.
lmao every time dumb poltard kisses a government boot

Yes and the government should make sure nobody is infringing on said freedom on a public forum. The internet is a public forum because these corporations gets lots tax payers money.

>the people pushing for government regulations arent the people who post on infinitychan
Well, we have liberals calling for restricting free speech. Ironic.

The freemarket at work lel

>there's always the option to get some Russian VPSes and darknet hidden services
Firstly, you're unironically proffering literal samizdat as a "solution" here. Please try to reflect on your philosophical positions.

Secondly, none of those solutions actually work. There has been next to 0 development of decentralized, private, usable publication platforms since the arrival of phones and tablets at least. There are no robust samizdat solutions on the modern web. We don't have the technology.

Meanwhile, governments around the globe now have, courtesy of "private" companies, surveillance and data mining technology galore, to monitor and quash dissent in all forms. Why do you think all shit like this is happening now and not 10 or 20 years ago? It's because corporations and governments finally have the power, know they have the power, and are being egged on to use it.

The predators know the Internet is weak now. Technologically, socially, politically. There's blood in the water and people are unironically calling it a cotton candy sale. Fuck off.

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>Yes and the government should make sure nobody is infringing on said freedom on a public forum. The internet is a public forum because these corporations gets lots tax payers money.
The internet is not considered a public utility in the US.

It will at some point. Remember the current president communicates through Twitter a lot and Twitter runs on infrastructure built on billions of tax payers money. Don't forget that, discord tranny

>It will at some point.
If people vote for net neutrality, it will.
>Don't forget that, discord tranny
I think you're confused about who you're taking to.

seethe
dilate
cope

>he doesn't know about the emergency sites
N E W F A G

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>8chers realize they've shot themselves in the foot by voting republican
My favorite timeline.

why didn't Jow Forums get the axe too?
ffs

have sex

it will, nothing in the way now

bake the cake?

FPBP

BAKE THE CAKE GOYIM

I am completely in support of large, wealthy corporations censoring "things they dont like."

What I am against is the lack of competition, which these wealthy coproration consiously have made efforts to kill, and centralize everything under their private fiefdoms, more powerful than many world governments.

The prevailing mode of competition (policically as well an economically) in the world today is the duopoly. The two together make up at least 51% of the market, but, supposedly, the effect of their distortions on the free market "playing field" cannot be considered harmful, because neither one is a "controlling share".

It is well understood economically that even without collusion or overt conspiracy, the duopolistic mode of competition forces standardization: the two do not compete on quality or price, but on the illusory distictions of brand names and hype.

This apparent paradox of standardiazation and conformity in an ostensibly free market is driven by the min-maxing strategy in which corporations do not innovate, but instead mimic blindly and idiotically whatever their "competition" does:
Should a Starbucks open on one street corner, immediately a Panera appears on the corner next to it. Apple does one thing, and Microsoft follows.

Markets are cyclical: they move from competitive and innovative, to stagant and noncompetitive, and back again.

During the competitive-innovative expansion phase, businesses attract customers by policies that are pro-consumer (like youtubes original freewheling content and monetization policies).
In the stagnant phase, the dominant businesess, facing no competition, betray their users, change policies frequently and unilaterally, leveraging their powers for propagandistic (financial) causes.
tor, i2p, and ipfs all exist, and function well enough.
the only "problem" has been a failure for these platforms to attract large numbers of users/high quality and varied (mainstream acceptable) content.

beaker browser

That sounds like trash. You'll end up downloading cp and even if you block a user the 1s and 0s have been on your hard drive. Also sounds like way too much effort just to shitpost

>in the future tor will host open markets and free speech
Fixed

4channel dindu nuffin wrong. Jow Forums can burn in hell though.

Your problem with competition being killed is fucked up. The problem isn't weather or not competition dies unless you agree "too big to fail" is a thing and from where I'm standing you don't seem like the type of guy that likes that. The only reason a company should go under is by the consumers wallet. Consumer wallet is the only thing that should a kill a corporation and not underhanded tactics from competitors.

For the sake of alternatives, here's a random source.
It's not a great source, just a random one.
Deal with it.
esecurityplanet.com/products/top-ddos-vendors.html

Bakeries can't be forced to bake cakes, and Cloudflare isn't responsible for providing their service to everyone. End of story.

Amazing that even on Jow Forums of all places people can't just say 󠛡󠛡󠛡8c󠛡󠛡󠛡h󠛡󠛡󠛡a󠛡󠛡󠛡n󠛡󠛡󠛡...

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blame the faggots who spammed it everywhere during gamergate

>tranny twitter

you ever been on /gif/ user? 4channel is more infested with trannies than twitter ever was. you look through the porn history of any poltard : it's entirely loli and tranny shit.

>Latin America media is freer than the US.

Isnt the picture illustrating popular support for free speech as opposed to how free the people/the media/the internet is? Latin Americans being more in favor of free speech makes total sense in that context.

Gays were enraged when they didn't got their faggot cake done by a religious bakery and forced the bakery to do the faggot cake. Can't make your cake and eat it too.

> market markets markets
When are you going to admit this is a political act.

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What's your point? The government didn't force them to, just the pressure of the free market.

The point is the hypocrisy of the people who claim to hate the same behavior they exude.

Agreed, which is the exact behavior 8chers are displaying when they suddenly want all sorts of government regulation to keep their site afloat.

Hopefully none.

So here we are in a point where people buried their values and ideals and became the very same thing they sworn would never become. Both of them lost at the same time.

The abuses of power on the part of these corporations do not properly consist of "censorship" (although that is the intended effect) but rather infringements of their contractual obligations to users of their services (which are by and large offered in a quid pro quo fashion in exchange for valuable user information and "content", even if the service itself is ostensibly "gratis")

It does no one any favors to pretend that they are not abusing their power and influence to ends destructive of civil society, but it is worse to label that abuse as something which it is not, for it enables malicious or willfully ignorant people to dismiss the grave issues with their trite protestations of "muh private company".
I would gladly kiss government boot, so long as it acted for consumer protections by either invoking some sort of "corporate death penalty" to split apart stagnant legacy businesses and thereby stimulate market competition;
or failing that, then by disambiguating what rights, if any may consumers sue or otherwise contest unilateral or discriminatory application/interpretations of terms of service.
Currently, US laws are a hodgepodge that appear to violate "equal protection", creating protected groups of religious, sexual or ethnic minorities, but allowing e.g. nightclubs to discriminate by sex or immutable physical characteristics.
If any law is to curail the rights of private business, then it should preferably restrict the rights of businesses based on the characteristics of the business (e.g. how much free comptetition that business faces) rather than the characteristics of the consumers.

All things considered Cloudfare was rather kind for giving the site a 2nd chance after the Christchurch shooting.

Should've used that opportunity and increased moderation, too little too late I guess

Cloudflare proudly offers "free services". High mindedly, their advertising and marketing proclaims that such free service evinces their principled commitment to "defend freedom of speech" against the "censorship" of denial of service attacks.

There is a certain amount of irony here: if the scipt kiddie's "denial of service" is censorship, then what is the "denial of service" by any other service provider?

But more insiduously, the actual problem with cloudflare is that their "free" tier of service exists at all. They, like Youtube, operate at a loss in order to price competition out of the market. These sorts of anti-competitive behaviors, were until the late 70s epidemic of neoliberalization starting under the carter administration, explicitly prohibited. Correctly, it might be noted, activist judges did away with these restrictions under the justification that it was "pro-consumer" to do so. But it is only pro-consumer in the short term. Eventually, market dominance gets abused.

Techdirt has an excellent article about why it is entirely possible to "compete with free". But so pervasive is the problem of non-competition thougout the global economy, that it is no longer possible to compete with free — it is a complete impossibility.
No business is an island, entire and self-sufficient, but all businesses in turn rely on other service providers, and critically, payment processors.
If a business steps up to the plate that offers a drastically innovative service or distinct TERMS of service, that business itself loses its contracts with service providers, supposedly independent and filling a market niche orthogonal to that of our rebellious upstart.

What illusory "freedom" exists in the market under such conditions? It is but a gilded cage.

agreed but their hidden service is still up and should be for the foreseeable future.

Where do you think we are?

They can leave their basements and go outside to work for Mr. Shekelstein's fifth tax haven yacht.

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/tech/ was objectively better than Jow Forums

it ironically suffered less /v/ infestation, on the very website that became popular for hosting the rejects from /v/.

Good luck Assange